Fallout 3 [spoilers, etc]

[NiX]

This is the spoiler thread. Why are we using spoiler tags?

Anyway, if you take the option of helping the ghouls overrun Tenpenny (You get a ghoul mask out of this that lets you walk by the crazy ghouls) Burke is no where to be found. They never explain what happens to him.

[Lantyssa]

This is the spoiler thread. Why are we using spoiler tags?

Because people might be looking for a specific spoiler.  There's a lot one might want an answer about, but not want to completely ruin the surprises.

[schild]

This is the spoiler thread. Why are we using spoiler tags?

Anyway, if you take the option of helping the ghouls overrun Tenpenny (You get a ghoul mask out of this that lets you walk by the crazy ghouls) Burke is no where to be found. They never explain what happens to him.

If you didn't kill Burker for his hat (tee-hee), he'll show up in Tenpenny's Suite eventually. You can kill him then without repercussion from ghouls. Lying, Congressional Style will respawn on the desk when he shows up as well.

[Strazos]

I hit VATS before his weapon was even fully drawn..

Oh well. I got the house either way.

[Ragnoros]

Whelp just finished up. Fun game, defiantly worth my monies.

But WTF, GAME OVER MAN? I want to keep playing bitches! Just ending the game right there was stupid.

Lastly gotta love the plot devices. Brought Fawkes AND Charon to the end and they both feed me BS lines about it being my job to go press the button.

YOU'RE FUCKING RAD IMMUNE YOU CUNTS!

[rattran]

Just send the hero chick in, she whines, but you get to live. Game still ends though.

[Hindenburg]

But that's the thing, it would actually be nice to see Lyon's reaction to his girl dying. Don't see how one can even TRY to guilt-trip a chap that just lost his father, but yeah, they dropped the ball with Fawkes and Charon. If you're gonna put something that retarted in the game, should've just forced 101 to party with Lyon and leave your followers at the base.

Guessing the sequel will have Maxson (or whatever's the name of the brotherhood boy) all grown up and joining the brotherhood factions.

[schild]

I've spent... I don't know, 35 hours on the game and the main quest is so uncompelling I'll probably never finish it. I just... couldn't care less. The only reason to do it would seem to be the ability to wear power armor, and even then, you have to dig through the cave at Olney to get the good power armor. /shrug

[Venkman]

Where is The Family? I found the three areas around Arefu, I found the entrance to the tunnel, gave Sugar Bombs to the Ghouls after they asked me, found and went into the radioactive manhole, killled the two Mirelicks, disarmed booby traps, exited to Mreski Station, killed some Raider there, got jumped by more Mercs, etc etc.

No sign of the Family. I thought they'd be at Mreski but now I'm wondering if I missed some turnoff in the subway tunnels. Sure were enough Frag Mine and Bear traps down there.

[lesion]

you have to dig through the cave at Olney to get the good power armor. /shrug

Foooort Constantine

[Big Gulp]

Sure were enough Frag Mine and Bear traps down there.

You were close.  Must have just taken a wrong turn, so I'd go back and just try to follow those traps like a trail of bread crumbs.

[schild]

The other prototype armor doesn't yell at you like the soldier class in TF2. Or at least, I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

[schild]

Oh.

Despite being very half-assed, it's also very worth it to go to the

Bottom left hand corner of the map. Can't miss it really, also not QUITE the bottom left hand corner. See my first post in this thread, to figure it out. Be sure to listen to all the recordings and investigate fully!

[Venkman]

Sure were enough Frag Mine and Bear traps down there.

You were close.  Must have just taken a wrong turn, so I'd go back and just try to follow those traps like a trail of bread crumbs.

Ok cool thanks.

[Hindenburg]

The only reason to do it would seem to be the ability to wear power armor, and even then, you have to dig through the cave at Olney to get the good power armor. /shrug

And even then you still don't need it, since Reilly's Rangers gives armor that's far better for combat than any other armor in the game. +1 luck, +5ap, up to -40something d.r., and methinks some small weapons skills.

Plus, the quest is interesting, and the follow up pays loads of caps.

[CmdrSlack]

Sure were enough Frag Mine and Bear traps down there.

You were close.  Must have just taken a wrong turn, so I'd go back and just try to follow those traps like a trail of bread crumbs.

Ok cool thanks.

Flaming barrels tend to be the "follow me" indicator in the tunnels as well.

[Riggswolfe]

Well I finished it. I was also surprised that the game just ended. I actually liked the ending.


I do wish it had been done a different way so we could continue to play in the sandbox. There were tons of places I didn't go to. All in all, I was very pleased with the game and it really did have a good Fallout vibe. Out of this and Fable I found this game much more satisfying. However why the fuck could I not get married, have sex, whore out my wife, etc?

My only complaints are 1) Hard to get early followers and 2) Hard to get early power armor training.

I'm considering going through the main quest to the Enclave part on my next playthrough and then just doing all the sidequests in my armor and with Fawkes following me around. Also, since the game ends, what kind of DLC will they do? More sidequests?

How much of the game did you guys explore? I probably saw maybe 50% of the game.

[Venkman]

Question: what about this title wouldn't give a good "Fallout" feel? I've seen in some other places that while people like it, it isn't a Fallout title to them. Is this biased love to the original F3 title that never was? Or something more subtle?

[Tebonas]

Humor, lack thereof.

Personally I love the shit out of this game, but that is the only point that can be made against it.

[Signe]

Humor, lack thereof.

Personally I love the shit out of this game, but that is the only point that can be made against it.

I'm not sure what you mean.  Are you saying that the ONLY thing wrong with this game is the lack of humour?  No, you couldn't be saying that!  Right?

[rattran]

There is some humor, but it's well hidden. And a lot of the side things seem, well half-done. Like the Dunwich Building. Really neat, builds up, and then nothing.

And the fact that neutrals get no housing sucks. Helping the ghouls into Tenpenny tower does NOT get you a room there. And once you rig the bomb in Megaton to assplode you can't disarm it. Fuckers.

Plus, stealing gives a karma hit based on bottle cap value of the items it seems. Steal one stack of 463 bottle caps, go from 'Paragon of the Wastes' to 'Pirate of the Wastes'

[Strazos]

Am I the only person playing a good-natured kleptomaniac? Do the good quests, but steal everything possible (well, everything worthwhile at least)?

[lesion]

You are not alone.

[Lantyssa]

At first I didn't think much of not being able to shoot children.  Now I really want a mod which allows it.  Or at least lets me smack them.  Some of these kids need a heavy spanking with a power fist.  I'll happily take the karma hit, even on my angelic characters. 

"Ha ha!  I'm immune, so I can be an even bigger ass than the most scummy people you'll run into."  Sorry sweetheart, you are not so awesome you can mouth off to the lady in sparkling power armor who is carrying weapons which literally vaporize what they hit.  ><

Kind of immersion breaking.  Maybe if that section had been earlier in the plot, where you're fresh out of the vault, it might have worked better.

Am I the only person playing a good-natured kleptomaniac? Do the good quests, but steal everything possible (well, everything worthwhile at least)?

More or less what I'm doing.  Well, was doing.  I'm trying to finish up my first play through now.  My next character is going to be gods-knows-what personality.

Humor, lack thereof.

It's subtle, but it is there, and it's mostly dark.  Often through your dialog choices.  I'm fine with that.  It's much better than accidentally crossing the line and turning it into a pop-culture love-fest.

If you want blatent humor, talk with Moira.

[Venkman]

Moira humor I find nothing but annoying. The first funny moment I remember is the guy sitting in the back left corner of the GOAT test. "What did you put for number 10?" Had a chuckle there.

The rest of it seems like gallows humor at best, whether Two Dog, the caravans, or that guy running the harem northwest-ish from DNR.

Now that I get the context of the Super Mutants, they don't seem slapped on at all. So the only thing now bothering me is the population in these settlements. Three people does not a town make. None of the places I've visited so far seem to have a shread of hope surviving. The only hope they have is stragglers from the outside, and they're all roughly in that 20-60 bracket. I've seen two children so far, and both of them are in Megaton. I hope one of them doesn't turn out ghey ;-)

I'm only level 7 though, and really, it's only a critique because I feel like I should have one or something 

[rattran]

At first I didn't think much of not being able to shoot children.  Now I really want a mod which allows it.  Or at least lets me smack them.  Some of these kids need a heavy spanking with a power fist.  I'll happily take the karma hit, even on my angelic characters. 

"Ha ha!  I'm immune, so I can be an even bigger ass than the most scummy people you'll run into."  Sorry sweetheart, you are not so awesome you can mouth off to the lady in sparkling power armor who is carrying weapons which literally vaporize what they hit.  ><

Dunno if it was related, but when playing through the first time, I found I could kill the little shits with Biwwy's Wazer once I got it. Had the mayor open the gate then blew his mouthy fucking head off.

[Ingmar]

Humor, lack thereof.

Personally I love the shit out of this game, but that is the only point that can be made against it.

I'm not sure what you mean.  Are you saying that the ONLY thing wrong with this game is the lack of humour?  No, you couldn't be saying that!  Right?

I'm finding it funny enough. It is kind of eye opening (as someone who found Oblivion mediocre) just how great a game you get when you introduce guns.

[Big Gulp]

Am I the only person playing a good-natured kleptomaniac? Do the good quests, but steal everything possible (well, everything worthwhile at least)?

I forgot to sign in to XBox Live for the PC copy of the game when I initially started, so I restarted, but going evil this time.  It's an act of will being a complete dick, because I know I'm turning down quests.  On the other hand, it looks like I'm on the good side of Tenpenny this time, so maybe I've just closed some doors and opened up other ones.

I hate starting over, though.  I was level 14 when I started a new character.

[lesion]

I found I could kill the little shits with Biwwy's Wazer

Definitely trying this out!

[slog]

On the topic of humor, the funniest thing I have fournd so far.

[NiX]

I still think they should have let you shoot people in the dick and eye.

Ninja edit: Also, if you go evil, be prepared for some annoying random vigilantes coming after you. At one point I was so evil I walked out of a building and was staring at 5 guys all aiming at my face. I walked back inside and sulked for a bit.

[Rasix]

Does Talon Company come after you if you're evil?

[Hindenburg]

My only complaints are 1) Hard to get early followers

Jericho, in Megaton, is recruitable. You just gotta have a high enough speech skill.

[Riggswolfe]

I still think they should of let you shoot people in the dick and eye.

Ninja edit: Also, if you go evil, be prepared for some annoying random vigilantes coming after you. At one point I was so evil I walked out of a building and was staring at 5 guys all aiming at my face. I walked back inside and sulked for a bit.

This happens when you're good too but it's the Talon company mercs. I even went to their HQ and killed everyone, including their leader. The only change was they were labeled "hitmen" but not mercs anymore.

I wish I could find the S.O.B. who gave them the contract.

[Riggswolfe]

My only complaints are 1) Hard to get early followers

Jericho, in Megaton, is recruitable. You just gotta have a high enough speech skill.

I got the feeling you had to be evil to get him and I wasn't.