Sup guys?

[WindupAtheist]

UO is boring me again lately, and I can feel the WoW bug biting. This is nothing unusual, as my MMO consumption for the last couple years has been about 2 or 3 parts UO to 1 part WoW, a mixture I find most agreeable. Whenever I want post-SNES graphics and clearly-defined goals, I play a little WoW. When I get tired of being on rails, I hop back over to UO.

I haven't been paying attention to shit in WoW since like March. What's going on now? Is there somewhere I can go to get brought up to speed in a hurry? What's a "scroll of resurrection" and how can one of my WoW-playing friends get a free month? When does WOTLK come out? Stuff like that.

I'm pretty sure I deleted my 70 in a fit of boredom, but I have a 43 laying around, and anyway leveling is the fun part of WoW in my experience.

[Fabricated]

Basically if you give your email to someone who is currently playing WoW they can use the "scroll of resurrection" feature on the website to give you a 10-day activation of your account. If you reactivate after that and pay for a month the person who gave you the scroll gets a free month. Tada. I'll do it if you want (woo, free $15!).

Anyway, Patch 3.0+ is out.

-All classes are hysterically powerful right now since we got the class and talent trees from the upcoming expansion. Ret pallies kick fucking ass right now, as do a lot of other classes. Everything is turned on its head really. Dagger-build rogues rock now where they've been useless forever, as mentioned ret pallies are amazing, protection warriors are actually capable of doing DPS and AOE tanking, etc. Cats living with dogs, etc

-All Burning Crusade RAID bosses have had 30% of their HP chopped off for the sheer hell of it.

-If you used any addons, they're probably broken now. Go check wowinterface.com or something to find stuff that works.

-Inscription is in. It's the new profession with the expansion. You obviously can't level it past the point it needs materials from the expansion content, but you can see most of the goodies. Inscription makes scrolls and more importantly glyphs. Glyphs are like...skill enchants. They last forever until you overwrite or delete them, and they change your skills and abilities. You get "major" and "minor" glyph slots as you level up. At level 80 you'll have 3 major slots and 3 minor. Major slots make big changes to abilities (i.e. one major glyph makes Flash of Light a heal-over-time basically), minors make...well, minor changes (i.e. Minor mage glyphs include one that makes your polymorph turn stuff into penguins, another removes the reagent cost of slow fall, etc).

[Paelos]

Raiding is essentially a total open-ending joke now up to the end to T6. If you ever had thoughts of kicking ass in the raids one level above you, you can probably pug them with little to no problems. There are exceptions to this with the most technical fights in T6 like Archimonde and the Sunwell area, but the rest has been pretty pleasant.

Kara is the new UBRS. It's a 2 hour run now for a clear. Almost anyone can MT now if they like anywhere. Almost anyone can AE tank as well. DPS is off the charts, but nobody is pulling aggro. It's crazy.

[Ironwood]

What the dancing monkey said.  Full clear of Kara in a single night and I didn't enjoy any of it.

I'm not down with hardcore raiding, but I'm not for smacking spastics in wheelchairs either.

[WindupAtheist]

Ret pallies are awesome now? Really?

 

[Azazel]

Yes. Like broken aweome.

BTW, Blizzard will probably restore your deleted 70 as well. They did that for a smacktard I know who deleted everything from his account.

[Driakos]

What the dancing monkey said.  Full clear of Kara in a single night and I didn't enjoy any of it.

I'm not down with hardcore raiding, but I'm not for smacking spastics in wheelchairs either.

We crushed ZA in 61 minutes last night.  Which is... like an hour faster than usual.  Kara took longer at 1h35m.  I thought we were all just doing more damage, I didn't know about the 30% chop.

I don't mind kicking over some wheelchairs for achievements.

[Azaroth]

Yes. Like broken aweome.

BTW, Blizzard will probably restore your deleted 70 as well. They did that for a smacktard I know who deleted everything from his account.

Paladins are awesome during EVERY beta.

Blizzard will crush your spirits soon and restore Warlocks to their rightful place at the top of the heap.

Count on it.

[Azaroth]

-All classes are hysterically powerful right now since we got the class and talent trees from the upcoming expansion. Ret pallies kick fucking ass right now, as do a lot of other classes. Everything is turned on its head really. Dagger-build rogues rock now where they've been useless forever, as mentioned ret pallies are amazing, protection warriors are actually capable of doing DPS and AOE tanking, etc. Cats living with dogs, etc

Also this.

Basically, a few days ago I hopped on my old Warrior for shits and giggles. Full S1. That's about it.

I specced full Fury, equipped a Deep Thunder and  a S2 2h mace, and pretty much trapsed around the fucking battleground killing whoever I looked at.

[Calantus]

Ret pallies are awesome now? Really?

 

Let me put it this way. I have multiple 70s. 3 of them are my priest, warlock, and rogue who are geared out the ass in PVP epics. One of them was a holy paladin with a PVP trinket and questing greens. I brought out her oathkeeper and specced her ret and play her because she is the most powerful at the moment. My brother did the same with his paladin he got to level 70 3 days ago over his fully geared shaman and warrior. We team up with 1-3 other ret paladins we know and just rape the BGs so hard. Looking at our stats we haven't lost a single game since the patch and we've been playing a lot. I'm pretty sure that right now you can tell if you're going to win by checking which side has the most paladins and bringing 3-5 means you always win.

[Chimpy]

Buddies of mine got from 1500-2000 arena rating running double ret in one night last night.

Several of the wins were 1 versus 2 as one or the other of them got the transfer aborted instance not found message.

Ret Holy lights land for 4k, crit for 8k and when they crit they throw a 2k HoT on the person.

[Ratman_tf]

What the dancing monkey said.  Full clear of Kara in a single night and I didn't enjoy any of it.

I'm not down with hardcore raiding, but I'm not for smacking spastics in wheelchairs either.

BC is now officially obsolete. They're just letting people spend a month tinkering with the old content before the expansion hits.

[Fordel]

Buddies of mine got from 1500-2000 arena rating running double ret in one night last night.

Several of the wins were 1 versus 2 as one or the other of them got the transfer aborted instance not found message.

Ret Holy lights land for 4k, crit for 8k and when they crit they throw a 2k HoT on the person.

That's only true if they healed for the full 8k. Overheal doesn't count last I knew.

[Ironwood]

BC is now officially obsolete. They're just letting people spend a month tinkering with the old content before the expansion hits.

No, I get that, but even when the BC 'patch' went live, we weren't kicking shit over as quickly as this.  It worries me a lot.

[Azazel]

From what I've read, WOTLK isn't going to be the great gear rest button that BC was - the purples you're kitted out in now will do you until they start getting replaced in the mid-70's. From what I understand the content is balanced against new players coming up in their quest blus and AH greens, not against people in S2-3 and T5-6, or even Kara gear. So if this is true, we'll demolish the initial content and gradually slow down the progression when we hit the power band.

[WindupAtheist]

Didn't get to play much, but I took my 43 ret out to beat ogres. Between Judgement making my hits heal me, and not having to chain Seal of Crusader, Judgement, Seal of Command, Judgement, constantly anymore, I'm dropping equal level mobs with my health and mana more or less full. Even stuff 4 levels higher is barely fazing me. I didn't drink once.

Me likey. 

[Ironwood]

My 62 mage can round up a group of 10 lvl 64 mobs, hit them with the blizzard and just watch them die.

Given that movement speed is reduced by something silly like 85% and they have a chance to be frozen (and thus critted +75%), they simply can't get out.

It's a culling on a massive scale.

[DraconianOne]

Didn't get to play much, but I took my 43 ret out to beat ogres. Between Judgement making my hits heal me, and not having to chain Seal of Crusader, Judgement, Seal of Command, Judgement, constantly anymore, I'm dropping equal level mobs with my health and mana more or less full. Even stuff 4 levels higher is barely fazing me. I didn't drink once.

Me likey. 

The fun comes against demons/undead: I took down 4 demons in Jaedenar the other day (as a lvl 50) in under a minute then realised they were all 2 levels higher than me. Seriously thinking of nipping to Plaguelands and grinding levels for a bit instead of questing.

BTW - has AD rep doubled like Timbermaw rep has?

[lamaros]

Shut up! I've successfuly not giving a shit about Wow for nearly 1 and a half years. I don't need to folk banging on about how delightfully OP my Ret Pally would be, especially not now that university is finished (as soon as write another 1000 words in the fuck of an essay) for the year.

I should uninstall WoW from my PC so I have a bigger buffer in contemplation time.

[Ratman_tf]

BC is now officially obsolete. They're just letting people spend a month tinkering with the old content before the expansion hits.

No, I get that, but even when the BC 'patch' went live, we weren't kicking shit over as quickly as this.  It worries me a lot.

[optomist]
I'm hoping that Wrath sees a move away from numbers, Numbers, NUMBERS! and more towards making raids fun and engaging.
I'm also hoping that the power curve changes in the recent patch are an indicator of that.
[/optimist]

Realistically, yeah. It's probably going to be Blizzard mucking up with the new talents and taking a few years to tweak everything back to gearcheck as normal.

I did a Kara run last night with my guild, and it was definitley EZMode for us. Even got the undead dragon dude down in one try. Now, we've been doing Kara for a while, and are no slouches. I can see it still being difficult for new raiders. (One of our Pallies was new, and took a fair bit more damage than anyone else.)
Tonight we're running SSC. That'll be interesting as I've never been past the first two bosses.

To sum up though, I think BC is not only obsolete, but an anachronism. (Much like vanilla WoW raids are now.) Wrath should hopefully be better balanced for challenge versus gear.

[Ironwood]

I disagree a little.

We went to ZA and knocked off the first four bosses no bother at all.  We only stopped due to beddy byes.

We'd never been to ZA before.  At all.  We learned the fights by me TYPING shit I was reading from Wowwiki.

I imagined, right then, that I was pretty much pissing in every hardcore raiders mouth at the same time.

It's not right.


I agree wholeheartedly about the fun tho.  Enjoying the fuckery out of my Prot Warrior and icey mage.

[Dewdrop]

The claims about T6 content being massively easy now is pretty accurate. My guild has been clearing BT and MH for a couple months now and never really made a serious push into Sunwell. Played around with Kalecgos a bit but never really got through a full portal rotation. This week:

Cleared BT in 2 hours
Cleared MH in 100 min
Went to sunwell for shits and giggles, killed Kalec on the first try, Brutallus on the 2nd try, and attempted Felmyst 2-3 times with no clue as to the strategy and took her under 50%. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we were able to clear all of Sunwell before the xpac hits.

Oh and 14 manned all of AQ40.. I didn't go to that one but I heard it was insanely fun!

[Mazakiel]

Kara is pretty damn easy.  We killed the Curator before he got his first evocate off without a problem.  But, all these changes give me a chance to get the last badges I need for a weapon that should last me awhile into the expansion, so I'm pretty pleased. 

They also seem to have upped the reputation gains in all the old Heroic instances.  I was getting 16-17 a kill in Ramparts and Shattered Halls last night, which I'm pretty sure is new. 

[Nonentity]

Ret Pallies in BGs are powerful if you get caught in a stun or Repentance.

I just make sure I trinket/zerker rage out of those, and I usually don't have problems with ret pallies 1 on 1 (on my full Season 3 + S3 weapon warrior).

If a pally catches me between trinket/cooldowns, though, they can just put out the most amazingly retarded amount of damage when I'm stunned/incapped.

They're a little on the strong side against me, but I'm not terribly concerned about them.

What I am concerned about is arcane mages. Fuck a running monkey, they are heathen bastards and should be burned with candle wax in a non-erotic fashion. They are all about chain casting instant cast spells, which just makes my life miserable. To be fair, all mages of all specs give me a fairly rough time, but good lord - Arcane is the full-speed instant-cast champion.

[Azaroth]

Pallies are easy, mages are hard.

Well, you didn't include your class in that post - but I'd bet $1000 that you're a warrior.




Well. Okay. You could have just posted "Mages are hard".

[ClydeJr]

I joined up with an almost complete guild group for Heroic Setthek to try for the bird mount. I haven't tanked in forever and I was a little worried about holding aggro. My prot warrior is geared in half quest blues, half Kara gear so I used to sometimes have issues holding aggro pre-3.0, especially with multiple mobs.

After the first couple pulls, we just started chain pulling. The amount of aggro I was producing was sick. I'd hit the group with a Thunderclap and Shockwave to get initial group aggro. After that, TCing when the cooldown was up kept everything on me. My damage was actually respectable as well. 2k Shield Slams, 1k Revenge. I was actually having a hard time getting my Devastates in the mix since Shield Slam, Revenge, and TC were always coming off cooldowns.

I'd also like to say that the Glyph of Revenge makes me very happy. Rage-free Heroic Strike after a Revenge? Yes please. HS used to be my rage-dump. Now its coming up free so often that I usually end fights with the rage bar over half full.

[Dren]

Our guild is pretty much just going back and doing 40 man instances for giggles now.  We are having a lot of fun.  Typically we can only get 15 or less people organized.

The rest of the time people are either doing the Hallow's End events and/or doing Achievements like mad.  Oh, and working inscription or farming herbs.

It is amazing how much more powerful all my characters are now.  I did take my Pally prot spec because he's my tank right now.  I tested him out solo against a 72 elite and finished him with no issues.  I might have had 1/2 mana at the end.

If you want to farm purples right now, go kill the Headless Horseman about 20 times in maybe an hour.  Most of your time will be switching around characters since downing him takes all of 3-4 minutes.

[apocrypha]

Dammit I'm gonna have to stop reading this thread, my pissedoffness at not being able to play is rapidly climbing the GRRFUCKSHIT scale to 12.

[ajax34i]

Ooh Headless Horseman purples.  Flying broom ftw

[ClydeJr]

Flying broom ftw

I love that there's no cast time for it.

[Xanthippe]

BG is not fun on my hunter.  I can't do a thing vs. pallies.

PvE is more fun, though.  Changes to volley are great.

I haven't played my lock or pally at all since patch (neither are geared).  I played my mostly s2 druid boomkin a little - was ok fun.

Pallies are stupidly overpowered - I don't want to even play mine because I don't want to have something that gets taken away.

[Nonentity]

Pallies are easy, mages are hard.

Well, you didn't include your class in that post - but I'd bet $1000 that you're a warrior.




Well. Okay. You could have just posted "Mages are hard".

zerker rage

You win! To be fair, I almost killed a Frost Mage as the new prot spec - I made a few mistakes because I was new to the spec, otherwise I would have been able to do it.

[Fordel]

The current dungeon HP nerf is simply a safeguard to ensure *anyone* is able to do these encounters. The last tiers of raiding were balanced around healers having pretty much infinite mana via regen and pots. Both of those have been nerfed, so they had to make sure the encounters simply didn't last as long or everyone would OOM before the kill.

[Montague]

I'm pretty sure I deleted my 70 in a fit of boredom, but I have a 43 laying around, and anyway leveling is the fun part of WoW in my experience.

You can petition a GM and they will restore your 70. I had deleted 2 70's in a nerdrage a year ago and got them both back two months later.

[fuser]

My 62 mage can round up a group of 10 lvl 64 mobs, hit them with the blizzard and just watch them die.

Given that movement speed is reduced by something silly like 85% and they have a chance to be frozen (and thus critted +75%), they simply can't get out.

It's a culling on a massive scale.

Did they reverse the aoe mob cap? I miss frost aoe kiting