Dead Space - EA Redwood Shores - 360

[Velorath]

However, having ammo/gun kiosks scattered about a derilict station is a ridiculous immersion breaker. No amount of 'In Space this can happen!' would work for me.

Technically, they're workstations where you use schematics you've found to modify power tools into weapons.

[Yegolev]

As for those lil hound things with the three tails I found the line gun rocks for them. The second they put their tails up one shot from the line gun lops all three off and kills them dead.

Those are not hounds, they are infected fetuses.

I must be bored to post this, but the cutter is great and the ripper is my #2.  Changing the orientation of the cutter is great; I usually shoot off a leg or two from the faster ones then go vertical to clip arms.  Assuming I can't lop off a head, of course, but that's not usually feasible.  If the fetuses are on a wall, and they often are, the line gun sucks.

The ripper is what I use for those tiny fuckers that you don't see until they are on you like fleas.  Works much better than the flamer for me, plus the ripper can be used elsewhere while the flamer just kinda sucks.  Also, I never, ever use the secondary fire of the ripper since any situation I might use it for can be dealt with more efficiently with the cutter.  Surrounded by anything, however, means ripper.  Hell, before I got the charge beam I used the ripper to take down those armored behemoths since I could put the blade behind them and get at their juicy parts.

[Engels]

However, having ammo/gun kiosks scattered about a derilict station is a ridiculous immersion breaker. No amount of 'In Space this can happen!' would work for me.

Technically, they're workstations where you use schematics you've found to modify power tools into weapons.

Not refering to the 'benches'. That sorta jives alright. I'm talking about the ones actually called 'Store!' where you can buy ammo, medkits, upgrade 'nodes' and weapons. Also, undead mutant vermin with wallets.

[apocrypha]

Those undead mutant vermin were the crew not all that long ago so I can cope with the credits dropped. But yeah, the stores are a bit out of place. How do you provide that functionality in a game like this without breaking immersion though?

[Tebonas]

Booths that can create all the elements from the right basic material. That special moldable material (call it creditinium) can then be molded by the recipes stored in the database or you can upload recipes you find.

At least, thats what I tell myself happens in the game.

[schild]

I don't understand why you all even think about this stuff.

[Tebonas]

Because its an otherwise very immersive game where this one bit sticks out like a sore thumb?

[schild]

Not if you just ignore it.

[Engels]

Well, I'm one of those special snow flakes that has a sensitive 'immersion meter'. I am alright with EQ snakes kicking, because, well, that's an oversight. However, when decisions are made at a creative level, before any coding starts, on how to dispense upgrades and armor, and the answer is,"I know, lets put in little stores amidst the chaos!" I have to wonder about the level of the creators' imagination.

To answer:

How do you provide that functionality in a game like this without breaking immersion though?

Like every single other survival shooter; you find shit along the way. Preferably amongst the dead corpses.

[Sky]

Armory, some engineer smuggled some explosives, etc. Breaking immersion is just lazy.

[Ironwood]

PC controls blow.

So slow as to be really fucking annoying.

[schild]

PC controls blow.

So slow as to be really fucking annoying.

Turn off Vsync.

The mouse going through mud is a bug as a result from that. If it's still slow, I don't know what to tell you.

[Ironwood]

Yeah, it's not like I'd have read the thread and tried that.

It's just fucking slow.

[Velorath]

Apparently the game the Wii is getting will be a prequel.

[schild]

Apparently the game the Wii is getting will be a prequel.

Yea, a rail shooter.

I can't really see a reason to play it if you've seen Dead Space: Downfall though and I'm not quite sure if they're going to just shoehorn a bunch of lore that doesn't actually fit. I'm not convinced this is an entirely good idea. I think if they'd made it the same game but playing from one of the characters (or both of the other characters) points of view, I'd have been all over it.

[Yegolev]

Ironwood is right about the controls.  I got used to it.

[stu]

I finally got around to playing through this after gorging on RE:5 for two weeks straight. A fun game, especially with the volume on a good set of speakers cranked way up. Isaac's Obsidian Suit looks plain angry. The only thing I really didn't care for much was the kinesis mode. As a weapon, it tended to be junk unless there happened to be some red explosive canisters laying around.

(I played the PS3 version)

[FatuousTwat]

I'm still too much of a puss.

[Delmania]

It's a massive ship designed to carry hundreds of people into deep space and transport ore back.  Having a store where people can stock up on supplies fits.  Also, the store does need someway to get those supplies to the point of sale works as well.  The damn ship has a tram system.

[gryeyes]

Pop machines that dispenses weapons fits on a mining ship? Having secured locker rooms for such things "fits" not a fucking soda machine. The overabundance of the gear machines is also one of the reasons the game was so easy.

[Delmania]

Pop machines that dispenses weapons fits on a mining ship? Having secured locker rooms for such things "fits" not a fucking soda machine. The overabundance of the gear machines is also one of the reasons the game was so easy.

The ship has a tram system and when Isaac arrived and it was carrying what? Something like 13 trillion tons of ore?  Any such ship would be fucking massive.  I could easily easily see someone building a store system that utilizes some form of transport system to deliver gear to various points on the ship, especially since all the weapons are mining tools. 

[Hindenburg]

Flamethrowers are mining tools?

[gryeyes]

There were several blatant "weapons" the assault rifle,flame thrower. And several more that can only dubiously be called "tools". Having such things purchasable for credits in soda machines every 20 yards does not jive. That equipment would be controlled and doled out on a need basis. The ship while massive was not "carrying" that amount of ore inside, it was basically sitting on top of it. I think it has a crew of 1,300 or so people and a majority of those would never need any of that equipment.

[Delmania]

Flamethrowers are mining tools?

Engineering tool, yes.

There were several blatant "weapons" the assault rifle,flame thrower. And several more that can only dubiously be called "tools". Having such things purchasable for credits in soda machines every 20 yards does not jive. That equipment would be controlled and doled out on a need basis. The ship while massive was not "carrying" that amount of ore inside, it was basically sitting on top of it. I think it has a crew of 1,300 or so people and a majority of those would never need any of that equipment.

The assault rifle was the only nonengineering weapon you could buy.  I'd agree with the availability, but then again, something like that would be controlled by the person's RIG, and Isaac is/was an engineer coming to make repairs to the ship, so it's not hard to imagine he'd have those credentials.  The 20 yard comment isn't totally accurate.   The store works for me because I can imagine someone building a transportation system that could retrieve items from a depot and bring to anyone of the kiosks. 

[FatuousTwat]

Flamethrowers are mining tools?

There is a process where they heat rock up, then pour water on it to make it break up... Can't remember what it is called or what stone it is used on.

[Furiously]

Just pretend the ship is named the Charles Heston.

[Yegolev]

Obviously you are all thinking too hard.

[Sky]

Yeah, I worked at a construction yard in the 80s and we all had assault rifles.

[Yegolev]

Did you have an alien virus that mutated hosts into grotesque (yet finite) forms?  I had already suspended my disbelief, in fact sending it downstairs to sit in the living room and think about what it had done, so I'm just not enraged about the vending machines.

Besides, I thought they were fabricators that used "blueprints" that were stored in the user's ... suit?  USB thumb drive?

[Tebonas]

Its all the fault of that Intergalactic Rifle Organisation and of Stem Cell Research. Appearantly both the Democrats and the Republicans were right!

And you can't fault Isaacs hacker friend for being able to circumvent and reprogram ship security but not being able to set the credit limit to infinite. Specialisation is key for Space Hackers.

[Delmania]

Yeah, I worked at a construction yard in the 80s and we all had assault rifles.

Was think construction yard located in the potential hostile environments.

Did you have an alien virus that mutated hosts into grotesque (yet finite) forms?  I had already suspended my disbelief, in fact sending it downstairs to sit in the living room and think about what it had done, so I'm just not enraged about the vending machines.

Besides, I thought they were fabricators that used "blueprints" that were stored in the user's ... suit?  USB thumb drive?

Even more, this alien life form is capable of reainminating dead tissue into some form of sentience. 

Its all the fault of that Intergalactic Rifle Organisation and of Stem Cell Research. Appearantly both the Democrats and the Republicans were right!

And you can't fault Isaacs hacker friend for being able to circumvent and reprogram ship security but not being able to set the credit limit to infinite. Specialisation is key for Space Hackers.

I was intentionally avoiding the little point that Kendra could have done that.

[Sky]

I had already suspended my disbelief, in fact sending it downstairs to sit in the living room and think about what it had done, so I'm just not enraged about the vending machines.

Ah, if your disbelief had been at my house, that's where it'd find me playing on the PC 

I'd send it back upstairs to question your commitment to sparkle motion.

[Yegolev]

It's sparkly.  Where's the mystery?

[Samwise]

Necro!

I fired this up on the PC.  I like everything about it but the aiming.  Dear God, the aiming.  It's like there's some sort of retarded mouse input smoothing going on plus lowered sensitivity whenever you're in "aim mode".  Nothing like trying to precisely shoot the arm off a flailing and charging monster with a limited ammo supply and a mousepad made of molasses.  Is there any sort of cheat or hack or something to make this play like a normal FPS so I can enjoy it?

(edit) Okay, schild and Ironwood covered this on this page.  I'll try disabling vsync and see if it makes me less angry.

The sad thing is, I'm considering buying it on the PS3 because I think I might actually have an easier time with thumbsticks.

[schild]

I hear there's lots of games on the PS3 worth playing. Dead Space is much more playable on a console due to the aiming.