WoW Did anyone see this coming?

[Ingmar]

Almost all my mods are informational (Omen, Recount, AtlasLoot, all my FuBar plugins are mostly informational, etc.) so except for on my shaman, who needs a bar mod for totem management, I can handle playing without disaster when a patch like this hits.

I keep thinking that I should try raid healing with something other than the default UI on my druid but I have some sort of mental block being able to deal with Grid and its ilk.

[Numtini]

Grid really isn't that bad to set up and will work out of the box. Once you have it, you won't be able to survive without it. It's that good.

[Chimpy]

I picked up mapster to add coordinates and unfog the map and tomtom for waypoints and its working great. It's not quite as good as the full cartographer suite, but my understanding is the author doesn't have much time to work on things and it won't be fixed for a while. The mapster/tomtom even picked up my questhelper waypoints without any prompting.

I just got Mapster + GatherMate (and GatherMate_Data to get the info in).

Fucking awesome the little I played with it.

Cartographer is going in the bin now.

[Phred]

I mean one that is smart enough to load your flying mount if it works in the zone, otherwise it uses your riding mount. When I saw the mount section I first assumed that the big mount button worked that way.

You don't need a mod for this, just make a macro.

Code:

#showtooltip
/cast [flyable,nomounted] Violet Netherwing Drake
/cast [noflyable,nomounted] Dreadsteed
/dismount [mounted]

That's the one I use on my warlock.  If the zone is flyable it summons my drake, if the zone is land-only it summons the dreadsteed, and it dismounts me if I'm mounted.

This worked perfectly until I tried it with my rogue. For some reason it wont work with him, dispite everything else being as perfect as I can manage it.

Code:

#showtooltip
/cast [flyable,nomounted]  Red Riding Nether Ray
/cast [noflyable,nomounted]  Stormpike Battle Charger
/dismount [mounted]

The only thing I can see is the macro processor may only allow for 3 spaces in a name. I may have to take this one to the ui/macros forum.

[Chimpy]

Did blizzard send you extra copies of your mounts and you kept the items in your bags/bank?

That borked the macro for a guy I know.

[Ratman_tf]

Did blizzard send you extra copies of your mounts and you kept the items in your bags/bank?

That borked the macro for a guy I know.

Yeah, and I deleted them since I wasn't hit by the pet bug.

[Phred]

Did blizzard send you extra copies of your mounts and you kept the items in your bags/bank?

That borked the macro for a guy I know.

Yeah, and I deleted them since I wasn't hit by the pet bug.

Ya me too. And on a different character too I think.

[SurfD]

This is the "Smart Mount" macro that i use, still works perfectly with the current system

/cast [nobutton:2, flyable, nomounted] Reins of the Onyx Netherwing Drake; [nomounted] Horn of the Frostwolf Howler
/dismount [noflying] [button:2]

If you want to use multiple random mounts, provided you have enough text space, you can do the following variation.

/castrandom [nobutton:2, flyable, nomounted] Swift Flight Form, Reins of the Onyx Netherwing Drake; [nomounted] Amani War Bear, Swift Brewfest Ram
/dismount [noflying] [button:2]

Does the following
- Left click in flying zone - flying mount
- Left click in no flying zone - ground mount
- Right click in flying zone - ground mount
- Right click while mounted - dismount (i believe it is currently set up to prevent you from dismounting while flying also, so as to prevent accidental plummets to your death.)

[Koyasha]

The macro seems to get screwed up if you have (or have had) the mount -item- in your inventory anytime recently, if the item doesn't have a different name than the mount 'spell' in the pet panel.  For example, my paladin that just hit 70 got a Golden Gryphon, I memorized it, edited my macro, and...borked.  In order to fix it I logged completely out of the game and back in, that seemed to solve the problem.  YMMV.

On the other hand, I had no such problem where the mount item has a different name than the new mount 'spell'.  Like with Reins of the Violet Netherwing Drake it didn't do that since the item has 'Reins of the' and the spell doesn't.

[ajax34i]

Code:

#showtooltip
/cast [flyable,nomounted]  Red Riding Nether Ray
/cast [noflyable,nomounted]  Stormpike Battle Charger
/dismount [mounted]

The only thing I can see is the macro processor may only allow for 3 spaces in a name. I may have to take this one to the ui/macros forum.

Dunno how it is in-game or if it makes a difference, but you have 2 spaces after the word nomounted], and that may screw things up.

[Phred]

Code:

#showtooltip
/cast [flyable,nomounted]  Red Riding Nether Ray
/cast [noflyable,nomounted]  Stormpike Battle Charger
/dismount [mounted]

The only thing I can see is the macro processor may only allow for 3 spaces in a name. I may have to take this one to the ui/macros forum.

Dunno how it is in-game or if it makes a difference, but you have 2 spaces after the word nomounted], and that may screw things up.

Nope. Macro started working  this morning. odd. Maybe it was this char that got mounts mailed to him. Hard to remember with so many alts.

[Numtini]

It's about what I figured. Same as any other patch. Wait forever to get in. Figure out which mods broke (I use about 0% of the default interface). Find a half dozen that are broken that I don't need. Wonder why X-Perl is so poplar and never seems to be ready. Wonder why auctioneer and cartographer are supposedly ready but don't actually work. Same old same old really.

Yup, I was wrong. This one really is pretty fubar. Last night was the fourth or fifth night in a row I logged out because the game was unplayable due to lag spikes (30 seconds to a minute virtually each pull) or the servers had crashed. I'm on Earthen Ring. Is it just us or are all the servers in this bad a shape?

[Dren]

It's about what I figured. Same as any other patch. Wait forever to get in. Figure out which mods broke (I use about 0% of the default interface). Find a half dozen that are broken that I don't need. Wonder why X-Perl is so poplar and never seems to be ready. Wonder why auctioneer and cartographer are supposedly ready but don't actually work. Same old same old really.

Yup, I was wrong. This one really is pretty fubar. Last night was the fourth or fifth night in a row I logged out because the game was unplayable due to lag spikes (30 seconds to a minute virtually each pull) or the servers had crashed. I'm on Earthen Ring. Is it just us or are all the servers in this bad a shape?

Whisperwind just gets high latency for about 30 minutes each night at peak.  It goes from 100+ to 2000+ for me and my guild (the ones I ask.)  I'm not so sure this is because of population because that seems like a huge spike for a short time.  I assume they are doing something server side during those times in preparation for the expansion.  Outside of that, everything is fine.  I never get booted.

The mail system and crafting system still seems to have a second delay more than normal though.  It is annoying but liveable.

*Edit:  we do have queue at peak so we are certainly "full."

[Selby]

Is it just us or are all the servers in this bad a shape?

Runetotem has had zero issues other than the rolling restart they did the other night.  Stormrage has been up and down quite a bit though.

[Mazakiel]

Shadow Council has had instance servers down most nights at some point since a day or so after the patch.  It was apparently better last night, but most people were too busy going for brains as zombies to do any instance running. 

[Phred]

I'm suspecting that the big problem they've added to the mix is the whole achievement system is beating the shit out of their database. Every tiny thing you do is now being logged to the database. That has got to be a serious upping of the load right there. In an architecture that had a notably poor database design on release, which they supposedly fixed by throwing hardware at, adding this much extra load seems like a recipe for disaster.

[SurfD]

I'm suspecting that the big problem they've added to the mix is the whole achievement system is beating the shit out of their database. Every tiny thing you do is now being logged to the database. That has got to be a serious upping of the load right there. In an architecture that had a notably poor database design on release, which they supposedly fixed by throwing hardware at, adding this much extra load seems like a recipe for disaster.

Im not sure that is the case.  I mean, probably around 70 to 80% of the achievements in the game are directly tied to things they were already tracking to begin with, like quests completed, reputation values, battleground victories, map areas explored and similar things.

I imagine a lot of the issues is just the massive hit to instance servers as everyone and their dog is running old world instances like mad to get those achievements unlocked.  Every instance related problem i have seen on Tichondrious seems to stem from the system being overloaded and needing somewhere around 4 or 5 minutes to create an instance for my group so they can go in and kill stuff.  Once it actually makes us an instance, zoning in seems fine.