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on: September 29, 2008, 04:59:07 AM

Official Trailer

Painful to watch.

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Reply #1 on: September 29, 2008, 05:08:07 AM

haha oh wow tom cruise is a piece of shit
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Reply #2 on: September 29, 2008, 04:56:50 PM

That might have been a decent movie... without Xenu as the protagonist, that is.

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Reply #3 on: September 29, 2008, 05:23:31 PM

At the end, they eliminate Hitler's thetans and they all become clear together! Then the Soviets reach Berlin.  awesome, for real

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Reply #4 on: September 29, 2008, 05:34:31 PM

Why couldn't those movies be made by people that at least have some sort of education.

Why do your hollywood guys always have to rewrite the fucking history just so that your movies are 'better'

Like that giant bear turd Pearl Harbour or the 'We stole the fucking Enigma machine although it were the British but nevermind' movie with fucking Bon Jovi in it.

If you have to make movies about German history at least try to get the facts straight. Oh and not all Germans are pathetic stupid dumbasses or cowards who'd stab you in the back even if you just saved their lives (Spielberg I am looking at you)

Could Hollywood please stop making 'historic' movies. I'd like my historic stuff to be made by people who could actually find my country on a map if push comes to shove.

Now your 'actors' and 'directors' are pissing on one of the few really decent things that have been done by germans during the second world war with that pathetic piece of crap starring Mr. 'I am tiny but have a napoleon complex and nobody has to find out I'm gay so I marry a trophy wife' Tom Cruise.

If you want to see decent movies about that period that actually get their facts straight watch 'Das Boot' or 'Downfall' or the first half of Saving Private Ryan before the movie turns into an 'America Fuck Yeah! British are strange, french are cowards, all germans are murdering bastards even the common foot soldier that just got saved by the decent American country boy' clichefest.

Sorry but the cast and crew of Valkyrie have pissed of nearly everybody while filming in location here in Germany and the trailer alone is a serious crapfest that just makes me wanna choke a puppy (or Douchebag Cruise for preference)
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Reply #5 on: September 29, 2008, 09:37:00 PM

So you are saying Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS isn't historically accurate?

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Reply #6 on: September 30, 2008, 05:11:07 AM

So you are saying Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS isn't historically accurate?

No, that one is spot on.

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Reply #7 on: October 01, 2008, 01:58:36 PM

You know, I hate Tom Cruise too, but that trailer looked interesting to me.

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Reply #8 on: October 01, 2008, 02:17:38 PM

You know, I hate Tom Cruise too, but that trailer looked interesting to me.
haven't watched it yet, but he DOES get hanged in the end, doesn't he ?  awesome, for real

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Reply #9 on: October 01, 2008, 02:19:46 PM

If so, they should put that at the beginning, then just run a 2-hour loop of it.

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Reply #10 on: October 02, 2008, 01:44:26 AM

Whoops. Looks like he was shot, not hanged.

edit: Now that I have seen the trailer... "unknown hero" wtf ?
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Reply #11 on: October 02, 2008, 09:01:04 AM

Whoops. Looks like he was shot, not hanged.

edit: Now that I have seen the trailer... "unknown hero" wtf ?

The trailer is marketed towards Americans. I didn't know who this dude was, though I did know that some officers tried to kill Hitler with a bomb to stop the war. That's more than your average American knows.

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Reply #12 on: October 02, 2008, 02:40:33 PM

The trailer is marketed towards Americans.
Makes sense, sometimes I forget that Germany is not the center of the universe.

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Reply #13 on: October 02, 2008, 05:00:28 PM

Looks highly unoriginal & a film that has the audience trying to connect emotionally with Tom Cruise is asking a lot.

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Reply #14 on: October 02, 2008, 05:04:57 PM

Wait, you mean the rest of you aren't Scientologists?

OH SHIIII-

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Reply #15 on: October 02, 2008, 05:29:39 PM

Hey don't dis Scientology you can learn a lot from Scientology.

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Reply #16 on: October 02, 2008, 07:57:45 PM

wat
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Reply #17 on: October 02, 2008, 11:51:43 PM

I generally enjoy Bryan Singer's movies, but jesus christ, could he at the very least try to get cruise to perform with a fucking accent?  I don't care if it's John-motherfucking-Cleese-style german, you could at least TRY to suspend my disbelief.  I don't care if it's motherfucking Tom Cruise after he mind-melded with the spirit of Marlon Brando, you as a director make your fucking actor try to motherfucking act.

Jesus Christ.
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Reply #18 on: October 03, 2008, 08:40:38 AM

I'd actually pay to watch the movie if everyone would be talking in a faked german accent.  awesome, for real

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Reply #19 on: October 03, 2008, 10:09:44 AM

I'd be more interested in this film if the lead was Pee Wee Herman instead of Tom Cruise.
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Reply #20 on: October 03, 2008, 12:19:10 PM

wat

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Reply #21 on: October 03, 2008, 02:22:50 PM

I feel much safer now.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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Reply #22 on: October 03, 2008, 03:21:42 PM

Wasn't Tom Cruise banned from entering germany anyways, thanks to the government there actually recognizing scientology for the dangerous cult that it is?
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Reply #23 on: October 03, 2008, 03:22:40 PM

I'd actually pay to watch the movie if everyone would be talking in a faked german accent.  awesome, for real

I would pay twice the amount to see any movie with John Cleese playing every character in funny accents.
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Reply #24 on: October 03, 2008, 05:34:40 PM

No Cruise isn't banned.
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Reply #25 on: October 03, 2008, 09:15:17 PM

Strange, I thought I remember something to that effect being a "zomg big controversy" when mission:impossible was filming in prague or something.
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Reply #26 on: October 04, 2008, 06:44:17 AM

Strange, I thought I remember something to that effect being a "zomg big controversy" when mission:impossible was filming in prague or something.

Prague hasn't been a part of Germany for quite some time now.  awesome, for real

edit: quoting is hard
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Reply #27 on: October 04, 2008, 03:37:42 PM

Which further illustrates that Americans wouldn't have clue 1 about anyone involved with the Hitler assassination plot.  So yes, "Little Known hero"  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

Hell, you're lucky Americans know Germany is a country and not a 'state' of the EU!  awesome, for real

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Reply #28 on: October 04, 2008, 04:15:40 PM

Give it a few more years and those Americans might be inadvertently correct Merusk.

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Reply #29 on: October 05, 2008, 06:03:18 PM

At the risk of seeming defensive, I'd like to state that I know the difference between Prague and Germany, and I do remember seeing some "news reports" on Germans protesting Tom Cruise or some shit while he was filming in eastern europe, and had assumed maybe they were trying to film parts in Germany, since, you know, productions do that from time to time.

Also, as far as I know a good number of people in the US do in fact know that there was a plot involving the assassination of Hitler (though probably not the particulars), especially since FM Rommel was implicated as complicit in the plot by certain parts of the party, and generally speaking, americans at least know something of Rommel thanks to the movie Patton.
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Reply #30 on: October 06, 2008, 12:52:58 AM

They didn't protest him being a Scientologist. The protests were about the film crew trying to film on original locations in Germany. Locations that are so strongly connected to WW2 germany that people didn't want them to be used for some kind of american hollywood fluff piece.
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Reply #31 on: October 06, 2008, 06:01:13 AM

Actually, there was a multitude of attempts, Hitler was like a damn cockroach.

That was just the last one.
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Reply #32 on: October 06, 2008, 06:13:30 AM

The entire time I was watching that trailer I couldn't stop thinking "Maybe I can't hear the accent", then I turned up my laptop speakers. Fuck Cruise and everyone else who didn't put on the accent.
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Reply #33 on: October 06, 2008, 06:22:04 AM

I generally enjoy Bryan Singer's movies, but jesus christ, could he at the very least try to get cruise to perform with a fucking accent?  I don't care if it's John-motherfucking-Cleese-style german, you could at least TRY to suspend my disbelief.  I don't care if it's motherfucking Tom Cruise after he mind-melded with the spirit of Marlon Brando, you as a director make your fucking actor try to motherfucking act.

Jesus Christ.

I read that they tried it but it didn't work so he asked them to go for a sort of neutral English without recognizable accents so it wouldn't be a "distraction".

Wasn't Tom Cruise banned from entering germany anyways, thanks to the government there actually recognizing scientology for the dangerous cult that it is?

There were some issues that resolved around filming at some historic occasions, especially the one where the main character was shot and also the descendents of this man protested about Tom Cruise being involved. Apparently though they went and saw his work on the set and decided they didn't have a problem with it. My impression was that they feared it was going to be an action/adventure movie rather than a historical drama. Which isn't really that unreasonable for them to think.

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Reply #34 on: October 06, 2008, 04:16:59 PM

Not that this looks like a decent movie or anything, but is the stink about this movie in Germany due to the portrayal of essentially traitors in a positive light?
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