Dr. Who

[Slyfeind]

And didn't watsisname, you know, Tristan- rummage through other rooms to find something nice to wear?  Or was that the other one?  Paul Merroney? 

Tennant did that. Heh. He found Tom baker's old scarf, that was funny.

[Signe]

And didn't someone get lost in the Tardis in one show?  I don't remember which Doctor, though.  Probably one with or after Tom Baker.  I didn't really care much for the show before him.

[HaemishM]

There was one episode during the Baker years where they went through a good portion of the Tardis trying to find someone for something. I think they even spent a few episodes in an older, Pertwee era control room (with the wood paneling that looked like a 1920's cruise ship cabin) because of it.

[Fraeg]

The Master was such a great character last time he was in the show. Hopefully he'll have regenerated again before we see him again, as although John Simm is great, his version of the character has been spoiled for me.

Who was that woman then?

from Gallifrey Base forum:

CONFIRMED: "The Woman" IS "The Doctor's Mother":

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Hey all,

I managed to get an early copy of The Writers Tale 2 today and in the cast list right at the start, it has:
"Claire Boom - the Woman (the Doctor's mother) in Doctor Who 4.17/4.18"

Most of us already knew it of course, but it's really nice to have one of The End Of Time's biggest mysteries cleared up!
There's no proof of course to say that I've got it, but I work for a newspaper who do book reviews, and I was kindly allowed the duplicate copy, which I was thrilled about!
If it's under any kind of embargo, then I do apologise.  

Perhaps I am missed something but how the hell were we supposed to know it was his mother?

*edit* not sure just how reliable this source is.

[Surlyboi]

Fuck that noise. As far as I'm concerned, it was Romana. Even if RTD himself walks up to me and says, "It was his mum." I'll punch the fucker in the throat.

[Ironwood]

I approve of that logic.  Take what comfort you can from shitty, shitty writing by making the thing your own.


Of course, two abstentions, one male, one female, both older.  The symbolism was fairly clear from the start.  However, it's just shite.  Utter, utter, utter shite.  It makes no sense to suddenly pull parents out of the closet, which means it's almost certainly what RTD was trying to do.  ARG.  We owe him SO MUCH for bringing it back and all I want to do is HIT HIM WITH A BIT OF WOOD.

[Slyfeind]

I'm still convinced it was Wilfred's wife because it makes more sense to me that Donna is the granddaughter of a Time Lord. (Time Lady?)

[Engels]

This thread has inspired me to rewatch the Key of Time story arc on Netflix

[HaemishM]

Of course it was the Doctor's mother. I don't see how you could think it was anyone else based on the doe-eyed look the Doctor gave when she was mentioned. Are you pissed that he had a mother or that Davies teased us with it and then didn't rub it in our gobs? Yes, it's shite - it was in the End of Time. There was maybe 3 minutes of good writing in End of Time, the rest was as Ironwood said, utter shite.

[raydeen]

Of course it was the Doctor's mother. I don't see how you could think it was anyone else based on the doe-eyed look the Doctor gave when she was mentioned. Are you pissed that he had a mother or that Davies teased us with it and then didn't rub it in our gobs? Yes, it's shite - it was in the End of Time. There was maybe 3 minutes of good writing in End of Time, the rest was as Ironwood said, utter shite.

It's probably something most won't consider as canon (and probably want to forget) but wasn't it revealed in the '96 movie that the Doctor's mother was human making him half human?

[Khaldun]

I think that's one thing they've essentially said was a mistake, you didn't hear it, it was a metaphor or something.

[rattran]

Watching the final 'Confidential' has made me hate RTD even more. Fuck.

[Fraeg]

Watching the final 'Confidential' has made me hate RTD even more. Fuck.

really I was going to download it in the hopes that he would explain that shaggy dog of a story. All it did was piss you off though?

[palmer_eldritch]

So what was that woman going on about when she said she was "lost for so long" or whatever it was? Romana was lost in E-Space but we've never heard anything about the Doctor's mother being lost anywhere. Ah well, who gives a shit.

I've been watching older episodes recently on iPlayer and there were some great storylines in the earlier seasons.

[Surlyboi]

The missus and I just made it through the halfway mark of season one of the new series. She'd never seen the Eccelston episodes (with the exception of Boomtown, and the only reason I showed her that one out of order was so that she could make sense of the shit we saw in Cardiff.) They're definitely better when Davies isn't writing.

[Reg]

Eccleston was great as the Doctor. We were lucky to get two in a row as good as him and Tennant.

[Slyfeind]

Oh wow, okay yeah, I just looked up Moffat to see exactly what he's done, and he wrote most of my favorite episodes. Wow. I'm surprised he only wrote five episodes total. His was some good stuff.

[Ironwood]

Well.

Ok.

Fair enough.

Next ?

[Ironwood]

Right.

The problem wasn't the Doctor.

Oddly.  He was okay.  Strangely.

Seriously worried about Moffats ego.

I may just post to this thread all night in a kinda stunned and annoyed way.

[Slyfeind]

Arrrgh. Must find it somewhere, or else wait another two weeks for BBCAmerica to air it.

[rattran]

That was... odd. Matt Smith was better than expected, girl was cute. Plot was thin, preview clips of the season looked awful. And another sweeping story arc, telegraphed blatantly from the first episode. oh joy.

[Slyfeind]

Holy crap, everywhere I look it's some odd compression that makes it like two or three frames per second and also look like ass.

[Tale]

It's feelgood pantomime for all ages.

Done quite well, I must admit. But still about "HE'S BEHIND YOU!".

New Doctor needs to gloat less and find his dark side.

[Ironwood]

And another sweeping story arc, telegraphed blatantly from the first episode. oh joy.

Yes.  This was clumsy, obvious and, above all, entirely unwelcome.

[Slyfeind]

I thought it was pretty good overall. The new Doctor is all right after all, loved the "here's all the past Doctors, and now here I am" bit, and Amelia is  faaaaaantastic

I don't mind the Doctor being so smug, but the "oooo something's coming" bit, I agree, was an eye-roller.

[Reg]

I just finished watching and enjoyed it. The new guy is an acceptable Doctor.

What's the problem with sweeping story arcs? Is this something you guys generally dislike or is it an old-school Doctor Who thing?

[Tebonas]

The new doctor got me with the redhead companion and he himself has his own manic energy that is different enough from 10 to not dislike it.

Of course, the overall arch hints were quite heavy handed, and of course there will be new Cybermen and new (british) Daleks, but for now I give it the benefit of the doubt.

[Surlyboi]

I liked it. But I do agree the anvils were falling like rain.

There was a better way of handling that.

[01101010]

I hate you all... I have to wait till BBCAmerica starts it up since I am not allowed to watch it without the gf considering she got me into it. So this doctor, did they resurrect the scarf yet? 

[Mrbloodworth]

Yeah, thats pissing me off too, I can't find any legal way to watch this.

[Ironwood]

I've already paid for it with my licence fee.

You have my permission.

[Bunk]

I loved it, faults and all. Probably partly due to withdrawl, that I was able to look past any problems.

Now if they had only found a way to have her

[Slyfeind]

Yes plz. 

[palmer_eldritch]

Playing along with the foreshadowing (I agree it was clumsy), what was he doing at the end with that equipment in the Tardis? It looked to me like he was maybe taking her voiceprint, as he waited for her to say something close to it before fiddling with it.


I like Amy as a character. She's a lot like Rose in that she has a useless boyfriend and seems to fancy the Doctor (although Mickey became a great character over time), but I'm guessing Amy is going to be more than Rose mk. 2.

[palmer_eldritch]

I just finished watching and enjoyed it. The new guy is an acceptable Doctor.

What's the problem with sweeping story arcs? Is this something you guys generally dislike or is it an old-school Doctor Who thing?

The thing with the arcs is that they often involve characters in the early episodes who seem mysteriously to know what's going to happen later and drop cryptic hints, to which the Doctor looks worried, and then whatever they've been talking about eventually happens. It just seems clumsy sometimes.

I enjoyed the arc in season three (the Martha season) because it was a bit more subtle and you could see with hindsight how the events in the various episodes fitted together.