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Reply #2205 on: July 16, 2017, 12:58:30 PM


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Reply #2206 on: July 16, 2017, 01:11:02 PM

Huh. Well, I guess I'm going to have to catch up on this season before watching that one.

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Reply #2207 on: July 16, 2017, 01:14:59 PM

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Reply #2208 on: July 16, 2017, 02:17:25 PM


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Reply #2209 on: July 17, 2017, 07:25:56 AM

When we discussed having a woman play Doctor Who a couple of years ago I had a moan about it, but now that they've made the announcement I think I was wrong and it's going to be great.

Jodie Whittaker is a good actress (she was good in Broadchurch). I'm also just pleased we're getting rid of Moffat.

The last season was actually one of the best Moffat seasons in my view, because there was a lot less of this stuff about the Doctor being a tortured soul and reliving traumas from his childhood and wishing he had a girlfriend, and a lot more fighting alien invasions.

But I did think Bill's ending was a bit of a cop out because from what I can recall of Pilot, Bill hardly knew that girl. It was hardly a moving love story across time, space, death and reality because she was just some girl Bill had a bit of a crush on. If you want me to get a lump in my throat about how one person followed another to the end of the universe, you have to put a bit of work in making me care about the relationship in the first place.

I did like the idea that we never quite knew for sure whether Missy had given up her evil ways (though those of us old enough to remember Degaldo's Master would surely not have been shocked at the idea that the Master could work with the Doctor when it suits him/her (although I love John Simm's psycho-bastard version of the Master too)).
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Reply #2210 on: July 17, 2017, 07:32:29 AM

I like the choice.  Will depend on the material though, bearing in mind that Chibnall is 'Cyberwoman' and 'That Fucking Moon Episode Where It's a Dragon and It's Also A Thinly Disguised Abortion Discussion'.

So, we'll see.

She looks great though.  Liking that look.

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Reply #2211 on: July 17, 2017, 07:49:19 AM

Just a shame the Master did it first...  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly? (which I am sure was a simple test on reception).

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Reply #2212 on: July 17, 2017, 08:12:53 AM

They'd been floating it for a long while tho.  Had to happen eventually and, as I said, I like the choice.

Watching real fucking retards lose their shit over it on the internet is just the icing on the cake.  Fuck these MRA assholes.  Right in the dick.

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Reply #2213 on: July 17, 2017, 10:02:50 AM

What I love is watching them complain that it's just being done to appease SJWs or some such. No, dumbfucks, in a show where the lead character changes bodies at death, the possibility of changing gender is very much a gun on the mantlepiece--it's something that either has to happen eventually *OR* you have to get the Doctor explaining that no Time Lord would ever change gender because genitals are so important. Considering that the one consistent thing about the character all the way back to the 1960s is a contempt for human small-mindedness and prejudices of all kinds, that would pretty much fuck with the basic premise of the show more thoroughly than if he changed into a left-handed genderfluid pansexual multiracial half-Inuit half-Zulu socialist vegan.
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Reply #2214 on: July 17, 2017, 10:56:31 AM

And Johanna Lumley played one of the Docs many many MANY regenerations on the Red Nose day comedy Doctor Who special in 1999. She even felt her Dalek bumps.


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Reply #2215 on: July 17, 2017, 08:30:37 PM


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Reply #2216 on: July 18, 2017, 08:02:33 PM

I'm not really a fan of the show and think most of the opposition is from angry neckbeards but I've never liked of having a role that has usually been occupied by a man (or a particular race) and giving it to a woman (or another race).  I think they should come up with their own characters and heroes and not just try and shoehorn someone else in.  Creating characters that are designed for women from the beginning, like the most recent Wonder Woman, would be the better way to go.  But yeah, getting worked up over this casting change is really dumb.  If you don't like the change then just don't watch the show.

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Reply #2217 on: July 18, 2017, 08:17:31 PM

I think they should come up with their own characters and heroes and not just try and shoehorn someone else in.  Creating characters that are designed for women from the beginning, like the most recent Wonder Woman, would be the better way to go.

Which "they" are you talking about here? What does "designed for women" mean?

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Reply #2218 on: July 18, 2017, 08:18:35 PM

Yes, because putting a woman in a role of a shapeshifting alien that has been 13 different people over the last 50 years is shoehorning.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #2219 on: July 18, 2017, 08:22:31 PM

Yes, because putting a woman in a role of a shapeshifting alien that has been 13 different people over the last 50 years is shoehorning.

Yes, but the Dr is known through all these changes for their "deep sense of right and wrong" and "moral code". Obviously such a character was designed for men, not women.

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Reply #2220 on: July 19, 2017, 02:58:59 AM

I'm not really a fan of the show and think most of the opposition is from angry neckbeards but I've never liked of having a role that has usually been occupied by a man (or a particular race) and giving it to a woman (or another race).  I think they should come up with their own characters and heroes and not just try and shoehorn someone else in.  Creating characters that are designed for women from the beginning, like the most recent Wonder Woman, would be the better way to go.  But yeah, getting worked up over this casting change is really dumb.  If you don't like the change then just don't watch the show.

Yeah, this whole post was a rookie mistake and I hate to see it ;  However, I'm going to forbear from savaging you merely because you're entirely wrong and have no grasp of the subject at hand.  What I WILL say is that most of the female super heroes from 'the good old days' were just rebranded men anyway and it's only nowadays we actually get to see some of them being actual women.

Some people, for example, did not like Jessica Jones on Netflix.  And that's ok because as I've said, it's occasionally ok for people to be utterly fucking wrong and ignorant.   why so serious?

TLDR :  This was in no way shoehorned in.  This has been a long time coming.  And I can only hope that she gets better scripts than the recently awesome actors did.  Because if she doesn't, you can guarantee some cunts will just straight up blame her.   Heartbreak

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