Dr. Who

[Samwise]

Where are people watching this in the states

Tor...

other than torrents?

[Triforcer]

Great episode. 

 

[Slyfeind]

BBC-America, it's about 2 or 3 weeks behind Britain.

[Abagadro]

Is is possible to split this into a UK and US thread? It's somewhat hard to read otherwise.

[Slyfeind]

That's why we have spoiler tags! 

Ugh, it's about 20 minutes into the Dinopeople Part 2, and I'm flipping through my D&D books, eating a Hostess apple pie with a very noisy wrapper, replaying the Scott Pilgrim trailer in my head...every once in a while Karen Gillan comes on the screen and I marvel at her awesome legs. But UGH I'm just not into it. And I think people are accurate when they say it's not about the Doctor, because most of this episode is people sitting in a freaking basement talking about a damn taser.

[Engels]

BBC-America, it's about 2 or 3 weeks behind Britain.

Thank you! Now I don't feel too bad about, uhm, you know. Especially when I am making Steve Jobs cry when I convert it to a file I can then watch on my iPad.

[Simond]

We're only up to the drilling episode in the States, so...do they ever get rid of Roy??? Ugh. I see no need for him to be there and he's actually making Amy Pond look unattractive.

Ugh, it's about 20 minutes into the Dinopeople Part 2...

There you go, your Rory dilemma is solved. 

[Slyfeind]

We're only up to the drilling episode in the States, so...do they ever get rid of Roy??? Ugh. I see no need for him to be there and he's actually making Amy Pond look unattractive.

Ugh, it's about 20 minutes into the Dinopeople Part 2...

There you go, your Rory dilemma is solved. 

Yeah, I just wish I cared enough about the characters to feel whatever it is I was supposed to feel.

[HaemishM]

I was actually starting to like Rory. I finished watching the Siluarian episode part 2, and while it was certainly better than the ending of the Weeping Angels two-parter, it's still missing something. Matt Smith is coming into his own as the Doctor, but it's really never been about the Doctor all damn season. We're obviously leading up to the Doctor's fuckup creating everything that we're seeing with the crack, but they really are overdoing the crack thing. It has only marginally been all that interesting.

[Ironwood]

It gets worse.  Moffat manages to outdo RTD in the retarded finale 'Throw everything at the wall and hope something sticks' stakes.

[01101010]

FYI for us Yanks... Blink is showing again tomorrow evening on BBC America. I missed it the first time around and only caught a piece before.

[Bunk]

The finale came across like they were hoping that just throwing everything Who at us at once would make it cool. It wasn't all bad, but it didn't really have the emotional impact some of the previous finales have had.

[raydeen]

Just watched Silurians part deux last night and so far, that story has been my favorite of the new season. It just felt like classic Who. It was somewhat better paced than the earlier episodes. Shame about the Rory though, he was much better than Mickey, or at least much less annoying.

Someone clear something up for me though...how come anything the crack light touches vanishes from existence but the Doctor can just stick his hand in? Was that explained before? I sometimes have trouble with comprehension and miss details as everything seems to go by at a mile a minute in the new Who.

[Ironwood]

Because of shit writing.

 

[Reg]

So was that the actual season finale or just part one of it?

[Ironwood]

Part One, I thought.

[Ironwood]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Bang_(Doctor_Who)
SOMETHING HUGELY RETARDED.

Minor info on the last episode, which even someone with lemons in their head will have figured out.  Fuck, I could tell you exactly how it's gonna go.

[Tebonas]

If this means what I suspect it does this is unintentionally funny.

The season where the doctor basically gets sidelined by his companion(s) all the time is the season everybody decides he is a danger to the universe.

[Mattemeo]

Because of shit writing.

...or maybe it's because HE'S A FUCKING TIME LORD.

 

[palmer_eldritch]

I've just seen the final episode of the season.

My prediction is that in three years time Richard Curtis takes over executive production of Doctor Who and we all eagerly look forward to the guy who wrote the decent stories in the Moffat era finally having a chance to impose some sort of quality control on the scripts, only to be bitterly disappointed.

I did enjoy some of the emotional stuff in this episode but
i) the story made no sense at all
ii)
iii) River Song is still annoying.

[Simond]

The story made perfect sense. There were just a few temporal causality loops all running at once, that's all.

[Mattemeo]

Haters still gonna hate, but that's because they want Doctor Who to be something it isn't. Sucks to be them.

Fantastic finale, probably the best since the reboot. Lots of lovely wibbly wobbly, timey wimey stuff to get stuck into. Christmas feels like a very long time away.

[Triforcer]

[Mattemeo]

[palmer_eldritch]

Haters still gonna hate, but that's because they want Doctor Who to be something it isn't. Sucks to be them.

Fantastic finale, probably the best since the reboot. Lots of lovely wibbly wobbly, timey wimey stuff to get stuck into. Christmas feels like a very long time away.

I actually liked most of the series. I just think that this episode didn't make sense.

[Ard]

The only part about this episode I didn't like was that it violated all the stuff that came up during the father's day episode in season one where people aren't supposed to interact with their own past.  However, I did much prefer the whole Bill and Ted approach to this one.  At least they remembered that asynchronous time travel was possible again.

[HaemishM]

Watched the Van Gogh episode. Best episode of the season, hands down. No time crack shit, which is starting to be a good sign. But for some reason, BBC America isn't showing it next week, so I'm without Doctoring for that long.

[Ironwood]

Woeful.  An entire season of ego wank.  This guy makes RTD look humble.

Dr Who isn't about Fairy tales.  Moffat thinks it is.  This is why I don't like his season.

Utter rubbish.

[Simond]

Woeful.  An entire season of ego wank.  This guy makes RTD look humble.

Dr Who isn't about Fairy tales.  Moffat thinks it is.  This is why I don't like his season.

Utter rubbish.

You are Lawrence Miles and I claim my UK £5.

[Mattemeo]

Woeful.  An entire season of ego wank.  This guy makes RTD look humble.

Dr Who isn't about Fairy tales.  Moffat thinks it is.  This is why I don't like his season.

Utter rubbish.

People like you are responsible for Midichlorians.

[Ironwood]

I'm not interested in arguing with you.

Thanks for the link Simond.  He's clearly BONKERS, but makes a lot of good points that I agree with.

Not sure what that means about me.   

[Khaldun]

I've liked a good deal of this season. I think the weakness is in the plotting, often particularly the pacing of the plotting and the conclusion to most episodes. Performances are solid, some of the story concepts are good, and the dialogue is often great. I can't see the nerd rage about its horribleness, but neither is it the greatest season evah or anything.

The Van Gogh episode is the highwater mark, though.

[Simond]

Lawrence Miles is hilariously bitter and insane with jealousy that first RTD then Moffat got to run the show AND HE DIDN'T. (He used to be an author for the Dr Who books but when the BBC retconned his works out of existance he took his ball and started wrting fanfiction with the serial numbers filed off his own novels). He's one step from writing letters to the editor in green ink.

One step beyond that, natch.

[Ironwood]

His paragraph about Venom was right on the money though.

 

PS - Has anyone read Black Company ?

[Mattemeo]

Laurence Miles is a horrible waste of meat and air. Seriously, the bitterest, most self-delusional failed writer out there.

The series was good. Not 'omg teh greatest EVAR' good, but then, y'know, I'm an adult who grew up watching what I could of Doctor Who as it all but ended early on in my childhood and I therefore had to piece things together from occassional BBC2 saturday morning repeats and videotapes. I can judge this season on something I have done for every episode, unlike all previous post-2005 seasons - I watched all the Confidentials. That says something to me, that I was compelled to find out more.

It's true to say this season has been responsible for probably my least favourite Who episode to date - The Beast Below. It could have been something, but it was very clear that it was only included in the season because time constraints and budget precluded the notion of scrapping it and making an entirely different episode. It just simply doesn't make sense in any fashion. To be fair, it would appear that Queen Liz 10 is meant to be a recurring character (the end of the season finale hints at a reappearance from her in the next season) and I can't fault them for needing her to be part of things, it's just a crippling shame that the episode couldn't live up to what Moffat and the writing team needed her to be.

The season also granted me, however, one of my very favourite episodes - Vincent and the Doctor. It could have been disastrous; Curtis hasn't been on top of his game for a very long time, but he was clearly having a very good day when he wrote that episode, to the point where it even gave me a touch more appreciation for an artist and school of painting I have never loved or had much time for (Impressionism starts and stops with Monet as far as I'm concerned).

The finale, though, was far and beyond better than any since 2005. For once, we actually got to see the good Doctor manipulate time in a clever fashion that appears outwardly logical (though won't bear close scrutiny, as is the case with any time-travel story) and lives up to his title. That so much of the previous episodes informed its unfolding was a beautiful piece of close to the chest writing by Moffat and team, not content with a simple montage of 'Bad Wolf' signs, it actually showed us some new footage and relayed some old that previously didn't make sense, and really cemented the relationship between the Doctor and Amy, as he sees it - much closer to an uncle or grandfather trapped in an young man's body - a slightly febrile version of Hartnell's First Doctor to Susan, perhaps.

Moffat's writing for the long haul. RTD had a conclusion in mind but didn't really know how to reach it in an intelligible manner, he just dotted clues here and there that often had little implication to the episodes themselves up until the big 'reveal'. Moffat has been far more clever this season, and will continue to reap the seeds he's sown well into the next.