Battlestar Galactica

[Riggswolfe]

That's sort of the point of a democracy though. You don't like it? Move. I could see them declaring martial law on the fuel and food supply ships, but every single other one is a gigantic taxi. Let them vote themselves to be the next targets of the Cylons.

The only way this all makes sense to me is if they're trying to show that the survivors don't believe the Cylon threat to be real anymore. Again back to the timespan: how long has it been since they left New Caprica. If they haven't been attacked in a while they lose their sense of urgency about following any direction at all. Yet another analogy to current events, but an excusable one given the context. Why take better tech to get you, well, nowhere? Better to be sitting ducks to an enemy that apparently isn't showing up anymore.

Well, and don't forget. They can't afford to lose a single ship. Not one. Those 5,000 people on that ship? They're a sizeable chunk of humanity. Acceptable losses is no longer an applicable phrase when humanity is down to slightly over 40,000 people.

[Venkman]

Yea, but now it's a choice between surviving as a prisoner or dying free. THAT angle I can see being played here, as it would resonate with the rara flag-wearing portion of the U S of freakin' A!1//1. But if that is in fact what they were going for, they didn't do a good job of it. Imho anyway, since that angle only occured to me from your post 

[Abagadro]

Heh, that enough action for you?

[Lum]

And quite a few second stringers hitting the floor. I liked Laird!

Gaeta isn't going to live past next episode, probably not Zarek either.

[Triforcer]

And quite a few second stringers hitting the floor. I liked Laird!

Gaeta isn't going to live past next episode, probably not Zarek either.

I don't know- I think this may be the status quo for 2 or 3 episodes.  If anything, I see Zarek taking out Gaeta.  Only one hand can wear the ring 

[rattran]

Hope that's not the end of Col. Tigh, I mean going out jumping on a grenade to save his friend is classic, but I think he's one of the characters they've done so much with he deserves a better (on screen) end.

[MrHat]

Hope that's not the end of Col. Tigh, I mean going out jumping on a grenade to save his friend is classic, but I think he's one of the characters they've done so much with he deserves a better (on screen) end.

...

What?

[HaemishM]

The previews for next week seem to suggest both Tigh and Adama will get dead.

The action was ok, though really it was mostly Lee and Starbuck wandering through corridors. But they are definitely painting themselves into a corner narratively. Someone (multiple someones?) is obviously going to have to die and it's going to be for shitty reasons.

[Lum]

I suspect that we are going to find out through Tigh how the final five come back from death.

Especially since

[Fordel]

I'm still hoping the Centurions just kill everyone and call it a day.

[Evil Elvis]

I'm still hoping the Centurions just kill everyone and call it a day.

I concur with the gentleman with the talking pear-slash-testicle avatar.

[Tale]

The previews for next week seem to suggest both Tigh and Adama will get dead.

Not at all.

[raydeen]

I'm betting that was a flash-bang grenade. Nothing lethal, just enough to blind and deafen them. I've watched the kids play Counterstrike, I know how this works.

[Yegolev]

You people have been lied to by the previews before.  I don't care to watch them because they are basically a crock of shit designed to make me angry, but they do taste good.

Gaeta will have to die, Zarek may or may not.

I am glad Roslyn got off her ass, but I don't quite get it.  Now she's doing shit because of Zarek?  She didn't know he was let loose before?

[HaemishM]

The Roslin waffling has been maddening. She should have been the one to put a bullet in her brain instead of D.

[Samwise]

Zarek has to die or have something worse happen to him.  He's a boil on the ass of humanity and he must be lanced.

[Mrbloodworth]

Did any of you see the web-asodes?

[Yegolev]

I saw some junk with a young Adama, but I am very sure there were others that I should have watched.

[sidereal]

Well that episode actioned the series right the fuck up.

I missed where Tyrell went.  I thought he stayed with the Admiral and Tigh, but then he just wasn't there.  Did he get on the boat with the President?

Starbuck shooting a bitch was absolutely the best part of the episode.  "No, we're not going to have dialogue.  I'm going to shoot people until you let him go."

[Numtini]

I missed where Tyrell went.  I thought he stayed with the Admiral and Tigh, but then he just wasn't there.  Did he get on the boat with the President?

I thought he stayed with Lee and Kara on Galactica.

[NowhereMan]

Starbuck shooting a bitch was absolutely the best part of the episode.  "No, we're not going to have dialogue.  I'm going to shoot people until you let him go."

This. It's nice when characters man the fuck up and Jack Bauer things, especially when Starbuck has spent so much time recently soul searching and mentally unravelling re: being dead and marrying a cylon. The character is finally somewhere where she knows what to do and can ignore all the other shit going on.

[Jain Zar]

Starbuck shooting a bitch was absolutely the best part of the episode.  "No, we're not going to have dialogue.  I'm going to shoot people until you let him go."

This. It's nice when characters man the fuck up and Jack Bauer things, especially when Starbuck has spent so much time recently soul searching and mentally unravelling re: being dead and marrying a cylon. The character is finally somewhere where she knows what to do and can ignore all the other shit going on.

Its back to awesome Starbuck.  This can only be a good thing.  She needed purpose to deal with her fuckups.  Shooting things seems to solve all her dilemmas.

[Riggswolfe]

Starbuck shooting a bitch was absolutely the best part of the episode.  "No, we're not going to have dialogue.  I'm going to shoot people until you let him go."

This. It's nice when characters man the fuck up and Jack Bauer things, especially when Starbuck has spent so much time recently soul searching and mentally unravelling re: being dead and marrying a cylon. The character is finally somewhere where she knows what to do and can ignore all the other shit going on.

I also liked when she tried to shoot Adama's prisoner. "He's not your man anymore! He's the enemy now!" *bang bang*

[Venkman]

I'm betting that was a flash-bang grenade. Nothing lethal, just enough to blind and deafen them. I've watched the kids play Counterstrike, I know how this works.

lol. But I agree. Flash bang, and it didn't get too far into the door anyway. The preview probably lied about Tigh, and I'd say it definitely lied about Adama. Putting aside storytelling for a second, I just can't see James Olmos being willing to die before the end of the series. But even if he did, it surely wasn't to die at the hand of some no name <insert color>-squad.

Gaeta I thought was awesome in this episode. Hate the character but loved how the role was played. He's going to play Roslin next episode to get her to open fire on Galactica so that he's justified in destroying the base star. Whether they actually go through with the battle or not, well, all bets are off here with so few episodes left. But in a mano-a-mano fight, a Galactica with all weapons ready to go wins against that half-functioning base star. And it'd be the Enterprise 1701-E too! And the Death Star! And bipedal mechs, rar!

Otherwise, no idea. My one hope is that they don't play New Caprica again where the bad cylons show up and scare those with Cylon-equipped FTLs away stranding the suckers who stuck to their morals until it was too late. They did that story already.

[Fordel]

Well, they already did THIS story too. 


Maybe they DO kill Adama, and he turns out to be the uhh... 14th? Cylon! woo! 

[sidereal]

I'm still nursing the theory that Ellen Tigh is actually an older six.  And my new addition is that Gaeta is the last of the final five.  And his leg itches all of the time because it's actually growing back.

[Tale]

lol. But I agree. Flash bang, and it didn't get too far into the door anyway.

What good would a flashbang do? They've just prised the door open a little and can't rush in after the flashbang.

[Fordel]

Stop them from shooting the door long enough for them to open it?


Ellen Tigh being an older six IS a compelling idea, but that just leaves more questions and shit.

This show needs ANSWERS, you fucking writers. 

[palmer_eldritch]

I'm still nursing the theory that Ellen Tigh is actually an older six.  And my new addition is that Gaeta is the last of the final five.  And his leg itches all of the time because it's actually growing back.

Yes to all of these. They showed how similar Ellen Tigh and the sixes look in one of the episodes where a six was beating up and/or seducing Saul Tigh. I think having Saul simply realise Ellen is the final cylon as he goes swimming is too weak. There must be some further twist to it.

Gaeta has some hidden agenda, and always has had. He's trying to prevent the new era of cylon/human love and procreation which is surely round the corner. I reckon he'll turn out to be the only person who actually knows what's going on.

[Yegolev]

And his leg itches all of the time because it's actually growing back.

Oh, lame.  LAME.  Cannot be.  That would be retarded.  I'd rather Ellen grow out of his stump like Cuato.

[Triforcer]

Hasn't Moore, in interviews, explicitly said that Ellen was a member of the Final Five?  He hasn't been coy about it since the episode happened.

[rattran]

Now that was an action packed episode. Still felt a bit stilted though. Galactica's marines seem to have flexible loyalty.

[Fordel]

The last two episodes annoyed the shit out of me. I can't even rationally explain WHY, they just did. Maybe it was because there was no way they were going to actually do anything 'dangerous' with any of the main characters, not at this point of the series. No matter how crazy it was seemingly getting, you just knew it would all work out in the end.


I might as well watch Star Trek for that kind of shit.

/rant 


PS. Where was my Centurion killing spree? :(

[Lum]

You don't think literally killing off every member of the civilian government save Roslin (who's about to drop dead from Teh Cancer) and Lee Adama was enough of a body count?

Gaeta and Zarek were fairly major characters, but unless the show's final episodes became Pirates In Space, Yarrr Me Hearties you knew they weren't going to survive the hour. (And hell, if things had gone better Zarek would have shot Gaeta by the end of the hour.)

[Abagadro]

You don't think literally killing off every member of the civilian government save Roslin (who's about to drop dead from Teh Cancer) and Lee Adama wasn't enough of a body count?

Lee wasn't killed. You're probably thinking of Anders.