Heroes

[Bunk]

Overall the show's writing still sucks donkey balls, but there were some good points to this one. If they were not going to keep Daphne around, this was a much better ending than - "Oh no, I see her shot in a vision, so I shall run to that exact spot and do nothing while it happens" was.

Really, Ando/Hiro and to a limited extend Silar are the only things keeping me watching. The wheelbarrow scene was perfect.

Shows like this make me cry about how much people ignore briliantly written and acted shows like Terminator.

I mean come on, not even a token attempt at explaining why Peter was hanging around in a fucking elevator shaft?

[DLRiley]

TSCC is getting canceled. Heroes might go for a 4th season. One less show till I stop watching television. 

[Lakov_Sanite]

Maybe it's the new writer but that last episode was enough to wash a lot of back taste out of my mouth. People went back to being characters with powers instead of powers with faces.

[Nevermore]

Isn't it amazing how better writing can make all the difference in the world?

[Merusk]

Yes, yes it is.

Claire's new haircut was nice, too. 

[Samwise]

I'm tired of the "hey I have a genius plan, let's use Sylar as a living weapon" angle.  I liked him better when he was off doing his own thing and splatting any government agents who came for him.

[Lakov_Sanite]

I'm tired of the "hey I have a genius plan, let's use Sylar as a living weapon" angle.  I liked him better when he was off doing his own thing and splatting any government agents who came for him.

I don't know, writing him in like this makes a lot more sense to me. Plus he isn't even going around using his powers like he could. Pointing a gun at sylar is useless, even if the guy thought he could jam something in sylars brain the bullet wouldn't even reach him, not to mention he could have used his little object memory power in the apt. They made it clear on several occasions he didn't want to use his power just because he could, rather he wanted to enjoy the hunt and further corruption of the agent.

I like this a lot because it's not using sylar as some juggernaut power-machine but like the serial-killer pyscho he used to be that was powerful but that wasn't what made him scary.

Powers were used in this ep but in clever ways[claire using super drinking ability] for instance. Overall it just didn't feel hokey and felt like a dramatic show with powers once again. I think some of these actors can be great with good dialogue, bennet for one. Peter is kind of a hopeless case but at least he's not unbearable anymore.

[Grimwell]

I'm in with the notion that good writing improves any show premise. It's true. Same as I don't want to read a shit book; a show with shit writing quickly becomes me doing something else. I don't much enjoy the TV as it is, so lacking good writing I'm not there.

Yesterday's episode, good writing. The trip through Catholicism was a bit unusual; but good for the characters. It fit the family well and should have been used before.

[Hawkbit]

The writing was a major step in the right direction, though I want to see some power usage.  It's like they blew their wad with last week's ice chick explosion. 

The show needs to bring this story to a close and let the writers get to work from scratch.  It also needs to cull some more characters.  I want to see badass future Peter and Hiro become what they're supposed to be. 

[Lakov_Sanite]

So many people cried out for moar powers after season one(including me) and we got seasons 2-3 out of it. I'd been happy with them keeping powers toned down for the most part. I'd rather see characters use powers in smart ways rather than abundantly. 

Did anyone else notice the distinct lack of characters focused on this episode? I think there were a total of three plotlines with two of them overlapping slightly. I hate to gush about this episode, afterall it was just one but after the downward spiral the show had been taking I have to say I'm really psyched for the first time in a long time watching it.

Two things that bother me though is one, it might be too late to save the show, I'd like to see a couple seasons of this kind of substance. Secondly that they now have the perfect out to replace Quinto should he want to leave the show.

[Jeff Kelly]

I seriously expect a 'reboot' in season 4. Many storylines are so fucked up that only a decent amount of retconning can fix them. This would also be the perfect opportunity for culling the cast.

[tazelbain]

Something is seriously wrong with a series that needs so many reboots.

[Grimwell]

It only needs one reboot, and killing Sylar so he can go gives a great opportunity to have a huge climatic battle with lots of corpses. Effectively the reboot that they need, one or two survivors who can be used in the next season and other new folks as PLOT demands.

[Tale]

People went back to being characters with powers instead of powers with faces.

I read that as "People went back to being characters with powers instead of powers with faeces" and nodded in agreement at such terminology for the old writing.

[March]

It only needs one reboot, and killing Sylar so he can go gives a great opportunity to have a huge climatic battle with lots of corpses. Effectively the reboot that they need, one or two survivors who can be used in the next season and other new folks as PLOT demands.

Yeah, I hate to say it because Sylar is an interestingly evil character and well played... but the show is spinning its wheels until it kills him.

Sylar in season one was the perfect juggernaut... every time you miss killing him he gets harder to kill with a new power... solid premise, big climax, voila the little-guys win.  Next Season.

Having the uber-Sylar that keeps getting uberer is pulling the show down paths it cannot logically follow.

The power proliferation plots have been the undoing of the show (Peter, Peter's Dad, Hiro-sort of-, and now Parkman) - one dead, two nerfed, and one (inexplicably) still growing.

It goes from being an interesting drama with the twist of limited and unusual powers to some sort of WWF cage-match complete with flying chairs and bimbos tossed to the ground.

Then again, that might be been their end-game all along.

[HaemishM]

They NEED some WWE style cage match action. I mean, it's a show about people with FUCKING SUPERPOWERS. Why make a show about people with powers then do everything possible so they don't use them at all?

Yeah, the writing has improved, but I almost gave up on this episode. A little too much soap opera and not nearly enough action. I don't like the Danko/Sylar collaboration. I'd rather have seen him work with the teenager he went on the roadtrip with. I haven't liked the Danko character at all. The whole Catholic sideline was out of place.

The writing is better, but I'm feeling less and less inclination to give a shit about the characters or plot.

[Arinon]

Whenever I see Danko all I can think is Gov. Devlin from Oz.

[NowhereMan]

I kind of like the ma Petrelli salvation type bit. It was a bit odd but it was also a well written reason for Peter to actually continue giving a shit whether his mother lives or dies. Maybe it's just because I think back at the beginning of the season they would literally just have gone for Peter saving his mother without any actual continuation, he would just have kept helping her. I also think that I'd have preferred Syalr working with the kid and to be honest I thought that was going to go horribly wrong. I'm just left thinking Danko is the biggest idiot on God's green earth. He's scared to death of people with powers so he turns to, the guy with the most powers in the world who is also a serial killer that has killed over a dozen of his men. And he's happy to team up with him and help him get more powers. In return he gets the sort of info he could probably get from Noah Bennett if he said please. Seriously just send Sylar back to chopping people up and throwing in the odd ironically funny moment, I would eat that shit up as a sub plot.

It is worrying that I'm watching this acknowledging that the writing is much better but there's still lots of stuff that makes no sense and I'm hoping for some minor reboots. I think it's just battered geek syndrome that's kept me here, the show keeps slapping me around with retardedness but then I remember how Sylar used to be and how Hiro made me giggle and I think it's gonna be like that again. And then for one blissful episode it is, and my hope flames back into life and I believe that the series can change, this time it'll be different.

[Grimwell]

Personally, I'm hoping to see Sylar use microwave-boy's power in one of the next few episodes, wrapping up where the kid went -- and getting rid of another character with no point. Sylar and Danko working together may be weak, but it's also right up there with the territory of common tropes. Let's just hope that when it's resolved they both go down and further the notion of better plot lines in the future.

One point about the writing, it's better and the guy is back... but he still has to clean the shit up and is not going to do that in a single episode. He needs time to do his work, or prove he's going to fail at it. 

[Grimwell]

I liked this week too. The trucker's accent was a bit over the top but things are coming together and narrowing; always a plus.

[voodoolily]

I liked this week too. The trucker's accent was a bit over the top but things are coming together and narrowing; always a plus.

Was that the Asian comedian from the South? I can't remember his name, but he used to do the "Evening at the Improv" circuit in the 80s. He had a joke about how they call basketball "chink" in the South and that hearing people talk about "shooting some chink" used to give him the startles. Since Asians are impervious to aging, it'd make sense that he only looked about 40.

[Tebonas]

So I am the only one finding the suddenly appearing storage room a ridiculous story device? The one the landlord never bothered Mohinder to tell about while he lived there?

[Samwise]

Yeah, I thought that was kinda retarded.  Much like the continually resurfacing "last drawing from Isaac Mendez, no really this time we mean it."

[HaemishM]

Yes to both those plot devices. But the episode was definitely an improvement. Moving towards Coyote Sands was a good move (but why dig up the bodies when you could just say "We killed a shitload of people out here?"). It looks like they really are trying to tie up a lot of shitty story loose ends and move forward with a tighter set of characters.

[CmdrSlack]

Since when has Ma Petrelli ever just come out and said anything?

My take on digging up the superpower killing fields is that they need to appreciate that the current purge ain't the first time they tried that.

I think.  Maybe next week we'll be back to emo Claire.

[Grimwell]

The storage room was weak, but not as week as a lot of the crap they pulled this year. I was ok looking the other way on that one.

Emo Claire is not allowed to return. Ever.

[voodoolily]

So I am the only one finding the suddenly appearing storage room a ridiculous story device? The one the landlord never bothered Mohinder to tell about while he lived there?

You are not the only one. 

I love the shitty wig they have on Claire since Hayden Pannetiere broke a contract clause and bobbed her hair irl. Obvious wig is obvious.

[Bunk]

Sad thing is, I think it looks better than her hair did.

[Lakov_Sanite]

it's not even half over and im hovering over the post button. I think the damn show hooked me again

[Cyrrex]

Seems to be going in the right direction.  They've found their reset button in the whole "form a NEW company" thing.  Not loving, but also not hating.  Did they also just write Mohinder out of at least a few episodes, or are they up to something else?

[Hawkbit]

I like the direction, but what was the point of digging up Coyote Sands? 

[Samwise]

Maybe Peter needed to see how fucked up you get if you cut yourself off from everyone else rather than forgiving them for their mistakes.  And Mohinder and Nathan needed to have it drilled into their heads further why what they were doing before was a bad bad bad plan.

[Cyrrex]

That's it exactly, I think.

Also, I enjoy your new avatar.

[Jeff Kelly]

It's more of an easter tradition of Samwise

[Samwise]

Yay tradition!