Heroes

[Velorath]

Smallville is much more entertaining, even without Lex.

The departures of Lex and Lana have been the only positives for the show since the writers can't recycle the same conflicts and relationship drama for the eigth year in a row now.

[stray]

Cute as she may be, Lana won't be missed.. But I didn't mind the rehash of Lex conflict. It was hilarious. In fact, I think that guy has like a record or something for most "knocked out unconscious" scenes in the history of TV. 

[HaemishM]

That's right, it was Mohinder's formula that had random powers. They haven't said how the Petrelli formula works. Or if Peter and Sylar are results of the experiments that produced this formula.

[Samwise]

Mohinder's formula doesn't even necessarily work randomly.  So far he's only used it on himself, right?  Maybe the Mohinder formula turns anyone who uses it into Bugman, and the Petrelli formula turns everyone who uses it into Nathan.

[NowhereMan]

I think that's unlikely. Mohinder himself stated that the powers that would be induced were random depending on the person (at least I think he did). I'm also not sure that papa Petrelli's plan is to give everyone powers, like you said it's a stupid plan and I don't think they're setting him up to be that dumb. Giving them to everyone may be an unintended consequence of what he's planning but I think putting together his own army for world domination seems far more likely (if a mite predictable, I mean classic).

[Triforcer]

Umm, wasn't this exact storyline done on the 4400? 

[LanTheWarder]

Umm, wasn't this exact storyline done on the 4400? 

Man I miss the 4400.   

[Venkman]

They are definitely building for a fall finale. Big fucking power war is what it ought to be. We still don't really have any kind of good motivation for Peter's dad being evil - the "give everyone powers" thing seems rather stupid. Would you really want some of the guys you used to drink with in high school to have super powers, especially when you can't control what powers they get?

Been wondering about that. Will it be that he wanted to give everyone powers so he could keep sucking them up to continue making himself more uber? Peter could do it, Sylar had the hunger, Nathan seems to be the black sheep in that he can only do one thing. Dad being able to eat siphon powers makes me wonder if the whole Cain and Abel thing they're doing with Peter and Sylar will be due to Dad's ability splitting on his two actual kids (one got absorption and the other got he hunger).

[Cyrrex]

For the first time, I was really NOT happy with last night's episode.  The way the tried to tie everything together was simply too much to believable...they've stretched it before, but this was waaay out of bounds.  Also, the acting and production values of this particular episode were just unbelievably shitty.  The whole papa Petrelli storyline might be interesting if it wasn't so poorly executed.

Sylar/Elle - again, a possibly interesting plot line, but so cheesily executed that I was cringing.  What the fuck happened to the acting and prod values from Season 1?  Hell, even 2 was better on that front.

And that shit that looks to be happening to Hiro in the end....let's just say it Better Fucking Not.

[voodoolily]

I was extremely upset to see Usutu lose his head. 

[Nevermore]

I was extremely upset to see Usutu lose his head. 

This! 

[Slyfeind]

Yes. Usutu dying really sucked. Other than that, I thought this was probably their strongest episode this season. It really brought back the old character-driven feel of season 1. I especially liked how all this time, we've seen the "Heroes" falling from grace, making bad decisions. This gave us a chance to see the "Villains" at least once in their lives try to do the right thing.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Right, let's just straight copy comic books and add tons of retcon BULLSHIT to the show.

So much wrong in this episode but the most glaring offender was adding the father patrelli to a scene he wasn't even in from season one. WTF

[Velorath]

And that shit that looks to be happening to Hiro in the end....let's just say it Better Fucking Not.

If they're taken away Hiro's powers, then it looks like the writers have eliminated the powers that were giving them the most problems story-wise (Hiro's and Peter's).  If they ever get powers back, I expect them to not be the same ones they had before.

[schild]

Can't sleep. The latest episode was a piece of dogshit and the lore was fucking terrible.

Do not want.

[Triforcer]

They could resurrect this if Hiro slingshotted around the earth to recharge his time powers and then landed in 1969 San Franscisco, where only a whale signing at a correct frequency could stop some satellite from destroying the earth. 

[Cyrrex]

And that shit that looks to be happening to Hiro in the end....let's just say it Better Fucking Not.

If they're taken away Hiro's powers, then it looks like the writers have eliminated the powers that were giving them the most problems story-wise (Hiro's and Peter's).  If they ever get powers back, I expect them to not be the same ones they had before.

That might be true, but it would be the straw that broke the camel's back.  Without time travelling Hiro, this show has less than no chance.

[schild]

Meh. The abilities will all be given back eventually. There's no way they're that stupid, RIGHT? Seriously though, I bet Syler gets them all of their powers back or they burst free and go back into the people once the new crappy villain is killed.

[Cyrrex]

I think the thing that pisses me off the most about papa Petrelli is that the guy playing him absolutely sucks, and all of his crap is so poorly acted.  And don't get me started about how he was just a mind-reading/altering douche before the accident, and now he's conveniently decided to steal everyone's powers and be uber bad.  Ugh.  He needs to die, like next week.  You know what?


Or something.

[Jeff Kelly]

Isn't Papa Petrelli the Bail Bonds Guy from jackie Brown?

BTW they don't need to take Hiro's powers, because he has a code of honor that prevents him from abusing his powers. They even did a whole Season1/Season 2 story line (ending with the death of his father) to give the character a plausible backstory for not using/ not abusing his powers.

Peter/Sylar/Pa Petrellis power is just plainly broken and shouldn't even have been introduced in the first place..

What this show really needs though is to use those people more that actually can act. This means less Peter/Sylar/Cheerleader more Nathan/HRG/Parkman/Daphne/Ma Petrelli.

[schild]

It's funny that you say that because I find Nathan and the mom totally intolerable. I prefer Sylar to either of them. But really, all 3 are just ugh.

I like Supernatural more than Heroes now.

[Jeff Kelly]

It's funny that you say that because I find Nathan and the mom totally intolerable. I prefer Sylar to either of them. But really, all 3 are just ugh.

I like Supernatural more than Heroes now.

To be honest most characters on the show have become totally unbearable. Hiro/Ando, that african precog dude and parkman/daphne and HRG/Sylar were the only watchable storylines and characters in my opinion this season.

But if I have a choice between different unbearable characters I'd choose to see those that are being played by actors and not the 'I only have one facial expression and mode off speech' duo Hayden Panettiere/Milo Ventimiglia.

[Samwise]

Did you just ask to see LESS of Hayden Panettiere?

You shut your filthy goddamn mouth.

[voodoolily]

I think the thing that pisses me off the most about papa Petrelli is that the guy playing him absolutely sucks, and all of his crap is so poorly acted. 

Bite your tongue, boy - that's Robert Motherfucking Forster you're talking about.

[Soln]

Usutu wont be dead -- it was all a foreshadowing dream Hiro had.  I hope.

[Cyrrex]

I think the thing that pisses me off the most about papa Petrelli is that the guy playing him absolutely sucks, and all of his crap is so poorly acted. 

Bite your tongue, boy - that's Robert Motherfucking Forster you're talking about.

Blame it on the direction then, but every scene he is in absolutely stinks, IMO.

[tazelbain]

He looks like a hobo they gave a suit and a shave before pushing on to the set.

[voodoolily]

He's Banyon, guys! Come on.


Heh, just found out he and I share a birthday (different year, doy).

[Samprimary]

For those who don't follow comics, Jeph Loeb is a fairly well known writer in the industry (and was also a writer/producer on the second season of Lost and a few seasons of Smallville), probably best known for writing Batman: The Long Halloween.  In recent times his writing has gone from decent (and overrated) to abysmal.  In particular he did a short run on Wolverine, that I can say without hyperbole are some of the worst comics I've ever read.  I don't want to sit here and bash the guy (he's been through some hard times in recent years, and don't like seeing anyone lose their job), but I think as far as Heroes goes, this can only be an improvement.

I got some more good news fer y'all.

If Pushing Daisies goes under, Heroes will cannabalize it for lost creative nutrients

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2008/11/heroes-1.html

[schild]

If Pushing Daisies gets canceled for Heroes, someone needs to stab a motherfucker.

[schild]

What a shit episode. I think I'm done.

[Cyrrex]

Can't figure out what I thought of that one.  Some good, some bad.  Better than last week, though.

[schild]

Anything was better than last week. This was still shit though. Right now we're rummaging through through an ESL class trying to find the author of the next great american novel.

God this show is crap.

I suppose it's only fitting that I can blame the same guy who fucked up Lost and Smallville for fucking up this. Loeb has the fucking touch of death.

[Cyrrex]

Can't really argue.

[Venkman]

That bites. But I'm not surprised either. Even the graphic novels have been getting worse.