Sons of Anarchy

[Rendakor]

That was pretty crazy.

[Abagadro]

[Xanthippe]

I think I'm done with this show. Too many shock for the sake of shock moments. Last season had its moments but I ended up being disappointed overall.

[satael]

Well the season 6 ending was a total wreck

[Rasix]

I watched the entire run of this on Netflix (1-5) + downloading season 6.  Fuck this season ending.   I might be done, this show is just really dumb.

[HaemishM]

You should know how the show ends, and you should have seen the ending of season 6 coming (though maybe not how). This is a modern-day retelling of Hamlet. Spoiler alert - lots of motherfuckers will die.

[shiznitz]

This show is about how no matter how much Jax wants to change, the life he lives makes it basically impossible.  There is no happy ending possible other than everyone quitting the MC game.

[Rasix]

Why does anyone believe anything Gemma says in this show?  

There sure was a lot of torture in this premier.  Felt like I was watching 24, but with a horrendous cover of Bohemian Rhapsody.

[HaemishM]

I'm caught up through last week's episode and yeah, it's getting ridiculous how anyone listens to Gemma. And Juice is a total and utter moron. The fork bit in the first episode went just a little too far. I'm not sure how anyone can believe Jax these days either, including the club, since he's flat out lied to them before for his own ends and they see him flat out lying to everybody else.

[satael]

The amount of people that die around the mc is just so ridiculous. 

[Rasix]

Yah, they even made a crack about it in the second episode.  "We're running out of room to bury people".  Happy: "I know lots of places."

[Abagadro]

Not QUITE to hate-watch level on this thing yet but inching closer.

[Rasix]

I'm already there.  This is my new True Blood.

[satael]

Sons of Anarchy Kill Chart   

[Abagadro]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.  I don't know that I can take 6 more bloated messes of episodes to see this travesty to the end.

[Rasix]

Wife: "Why the hell are they doing this again?"
Me: "I don't know. It'll be over soon."

The plot and character motivations are just a giant mess this season.

[Tebonas]

The only thing that could conciliate me somewhat after this mess of a season is if we actually see Gemma get killed by her own grandson, but I fear Sutter will find yet another farfetched crappy reason to keep his wifes character alive way past her due date.

And yes I agree, its about time this ends, the watertreading they are doing gets more visible from season to season.

[Rendakor]

There's no way Gemma survives the show, but I expect most major characters to die in the last few episodes. However, the school shooting last season (or was it two ago?) shows that Sutter doesn't really have a problem showing kids go crazy and Thomas killing Gemma would be pretty epic.

[Rasix]

Do you mean Abel? Because Thomas is still a toddler.

[Rendakor]

The older one, yea.

[HaemishM]

I have long ago decided that trying to template reality or sense onto this show is a mistake. Every single episode, there is a completely unnecessary car/motorcycle chase at almost the exact same time in each episode. It's Shakespearean/soap opera drama for the testosterone set.

And yes, I'm expecting Abel to try to shoot Gemma, but hate to tell you this... she's going to survive.

[Rendakor]

Sutter stated early on that SoA was heavily inspired by Shakespeare, particularly Hamlet and Macbeth. I wouldn't be so sure of anyone surviving.

[Abagadro]

Sutter is so uncreative that he will probably try to pull off a Vic Mackey ending with Gemma.

[satael]

The latest episode was more of the same as before but it did get me thinking about how Jax basically has no redeeming qualities left and how he now is the antithesis of what he was at the start of series. With some better writing and more emphasis on drama and less on (lethal) violence the basis of the series could actually have been something really great.

[Xanthippe]

The latest episode was more of the same as before but it did get me thinking about how Jax basically has no redeeming qualities left and how he now is the antithesis of what he was at the start of series. With some better writing and more emphasis on drama and less on (lethal) violence the basis of the series could actually have been something really great.

Yes, that's exactly my thought as well. My expectations were much higher, until they went to Ireland. Sutter found a way to offtrack a great story, I guess because he wanted to go to Ireland, I don't know.

This could have been a really great series.

[HaemishM]

The last episode was about the biggest time waste of an episode you could put together. Almost nothing happened until the end and even that was pretty much unnecessary and drawn out. It doesn't help that most of the episodes are now running 90 minutes with commercials (thank you fast forward DVR's!). I still like the show and think overall it was a good series, but it's time to end it. 7 seasons was probably 1-2 too many.

[Speedy Cerviche]

We have been watching this to the 5th season but I don't think I can take this any more it has become less a gangster show and more just a soap opera.

The remaining gangster elements have just gotten absurd: The whole cartel-govt thing, the thing over Pope's daughter, Clayton's reason for being alive, etc.

While the soap opera elements have gotten more pronounced (they were always absurd), half the airtime is now Gemma scheming some drama. Take out the bikes & guns and it's just straight up tele novella plots.

Just feels like there's no overarching plot and they're just writing it season by season, which is why you get whole seasons based on idiotic ideas or twists which then get tied up by season end (chasing a baby around for a whole season). Add to that as Haemish notes, time waste episodes have gotten more frequent.

[satael]

I think there is a kind of an overarching plot; Jax's journey from being the morally righteous "his father's son" into a ruthless sociopath "in his stepfather's image" and it all probably sounds good in theory. It's the actual writing and actual execution where it really falls flat on its face with stuff like  adding CIA into the show which was stupid but it probably sounded good on some level (a force that the club couldn't fight against which was as ruthless as any criminals forcing Jax to make further compromises).

[HaemishM]

The arc would have worked a lot better if it had been limited to 5 seasons or so. There was a lot of time wasting, but never so much as there has been this season. It's a shame really, because there's some good acting in this. This season in particular is so full of useless filler and we still have 5 more episodes to go. Ratings according to Wikipedia have almost been cut in half since the premiere.

[Rasix]

Why watch when you know the end resolution is going to be shit and the journey is even shittier?  Show's cruising on momentum alone.  

I think the premier really set the tone for how big of a clusterfuck this season was going to be.  It's the Chinese because Gemma said so? The biggest liar on the show? SOUNDS GREAT.

Let's try to concoct some grand scheme where we fight everyone at once and hope that they don't catch on, because any single one of these factions can kill us in a second.  GRAND.

Let's just randomly kill everyone and hope it somehow doesn't bite us in the ass this time!  

[HaemishM]

Yeah, there's not been a lot of logic put into any of this. It's such a shame considering how disturbing the big death was last season. This season it's just seem to try to find reasons to be violent.

[Rendakor]

This season really has been a fucking mess. Every episode they're pissing off some new faction with whom they were previously cool; I can't even remember why they're fucking with Marx and crew.

[satael]

I'm just watching it since it's almost over and I'm still secretly hoping for a good Shakespearean tragedy ending. 

[Rendakor]

Given that Sutter's stated inspirations for the show are Hamlet and Macbeth I think that's pretty likely.

[HaemishM]

Just watched last week's episode. This show just went full retard. 

I am officially just hate watching until the end.