Sons of Anarchy

[Xanthippe]

They could always do a pre-quel type thing - going into the past and filling out the storyline.  Although I doubt it will go that direction.

[Tebonas]

Clay needs to die a slow painful death. But he is not wrong, Gemma certainly loves to build up patsies to kill her husbands. The question that remains is will she use Tig to kill him or will he die of more natural causes (one of the many clubmembers who have reasons to kill him but don't know it yet).

[Xanthippe]

While Tig would be the more interesting choice, Opie is the obvious one.

[HaemishM]

I'm loving this season but another 3 seasons after this? I have no idea how they are going to pull that off. This season should end with at least 2 or 3 big time deaths, especially Clay's. Depending on how close they pattern this after Hamlet, it would seem Clay's death should trigger Jax's death as well. Gemma made it pretty clear she wants Jax to kill Clay.

If they can make the show make sense to continue to the fifth season, that'll be some seriously good writing. Seven? Miracle.

[KallDrexx]

Well that's one way to get rid of a minor character   

[Tebonas]

If there ever is a movie adaption of Splosion man I know who should play him. 

[Xanthippe]

Well that's one way to get rid of a minor character   

I had really been hoping they developed Kozic more into the storyline somehow. 

[KallDrexx]

I had really been hoping they developed Kozic more into the storyline somehow. 

I was too but I don't think they really knew what to do with him.  He had some big parts this season but there wasn't any room for him this season.  Hell they have only just began to fit in Clay's right hand, as he has been pretty much a background character this season while being a major character other seasons.. 

[KallDrexx]

Well that was a complete disappointment...

[Abagadro]

I dug it but I know I'm in the minority.

[Mazakiel]

I was left feeling that all the cool stuff pretty much happened in the first five minutes.  The majority of the episode was underwhelming.  Everything in the last few episodes looked to be building to all sorts of momentous stuff happening, and instead it just sort of fizzled out to set up the next season.  The reveal early on was pretty good, but otherwise...meh. 

[Tebonas]

Well, at least the inept way they tried to kill Tara makes sense now.

Not terribly surprised at the reveal in hindsight. The thing I really liked was the juxtaposition between Jax+Tara and JT+Gemma. For that I am even inclined to ignore that the women started to barge in during a club meeting without getting beaten to death.

I liked Potter. A person who hates people and loves humanity is perfect for his job. He needs a spin-off.

[Mazakiel]

Not terribly surprised at the reveal in hindsight. The thing I really liked was the juxtaposition between Jax+Tara and JT+Gemma. For that I am even inclined to ignore that the women started to barge in during a club meeting without getting beaten to death.

I have to admit, I did like those touches.  As to the barging in, one detail I noticed was that Tig was not happy that Tara came in.  There were lots of nice small details in the episode, but I had been hoping for more. 

[KallDrexx]

I was left feeling that all the cool stuff pretty much happened in the first five minutes.  The majority of the episode was underwhelming.  Everything in the last few episodes looked to be building to all sorts of momentous stuff happening, and instead it just sort of fizzled out to set up the next season.  The reveal early on was pretty good, but otherwise...meh. 

I have thoughts about why I think the idea behind the reveal was a total cop-out for the fact that they painted themselves in a corner and had no easy way out and still be able to have additional seasons.

However, the way they did the reveal was idiotic.  Not only would the CIA not have announced publicly what was going on among 50+ ordinary cops, they wouldn't have drove there with the undercover cartel member either.  For something that's such a massive secret, there's no telling who of those cops actually have direct or indirect with non-undercover cartel members.  Also, the CIA wouldn't have waited until the very very last minute to stop the Rico raid.   The whole scene was just stupid.

They could have done something interesting still by killing clay, letting Jax leave, the club restructure and find it's footing again and find a good reason that Jax has to come back (something happens to Gemma, etc...).  That would have been a much more interesting route to go then what we were given.

[Xanthippe]

I dug it but I know I'm in the minority.

I liked it too.

I especially liked the whys and wherefores of Potter.

[HaemishM]

I have to say after the awesome build up to the finale, the finale itself was a real letdown. I realize there are 3 more seasons they want to film, but shit, the ending was set up perfectly. Bringing the CIA in felt ham-fisted, especially the way they appeared. It was the ONLY way out of the corner they'd painted themselves into, and totally unexpected, but it felt very deus ex machina. There were a lot of good subtle touches at the end though, especially the scene with the women entering the meeting room. It didn't kill the series for me, but it definitely was a letdown.

[Samwise]

Caught up on season 4 all at once.  I did think the finale was a bit of a letdown from a plot perspective, but goddamn do I love the characters.  Looking forward to seeing Jax in charge and kicking ass next season.

[Xanthippe]

Just about ready to throw in the towel on this, and then the latest episode, which had a hilarious cameo.

[HaemishM]

Just about ready to throw in the towel on this, and then the latest episode, which had a hilarious cameo.

I'm finally getting to watch this season and my jaw just dropped when I saw the spoilered part. He is insane!

I'm liking the direction they are heading this season, other than the expected death of a certain character.

[Rendakor]

Having finished the season already, I'm curious who you're referring to.

[Abagadro]

[Rendakor]

[Xanthippe]

[Tebonas]

I think that is natural. At the end of the season I was ready to let them out go down in flames. There is no likeable character anymore (except maybe Chibs).

[shiznitz]

We don't need likeable characters, just interesting and complex ones.  TV has too much of that. 

[Xanthippe]

We don't need likeable characters, just interesting and complex ones.  TV has too much of that. 

Agreed. I don't remember liking anyone on The Shield, for example, but found it compelling to the very end.

[Furiously]

There is a difference between being a compelling character and just being a total asshole.

[shiznitz]

Of course there is, but the only total asshole in SoA is Gemma.

[Tebonas]

Jax is so totally her son its not even funny.

Or are you only a total asshole if you are not conflicted about it? Even Gemma has been shown to be conflicted and guilty about her being an asshole.

[MediumHigh]

We don't need likeable characters, just interesting and complex ones.  TV has too much of that. 

I would disagree. Without Jessie Breaking Bad would be un-watchable after the fourth season. And dexter is completely un-inspiring without anyone likable in the cast. I think Sons of Anarchy straddles that line more between having dickish characters and on the other hand making them likable, if not redeemable in their own way. Though I'll say I can't say I can root for Jax like I used to.

[MrHat]

. Though I'll say I can't say I can root for Jax like I used to.

I don't think we're suppose to.  Bobby left (I found him likeable) after Jax basically admitted to him (and himself) that he's exactly like Clay (and presumably that's ok).

[HaemishM]

I loved this season. Jax really started to come into his own and not only did he become as devious as Clay, he's surpassed him. Keep in mind that this is meant to be a retelling of the Hamlet story. There are NO happy endings coming ever. I am expecting Tara to kill herself in jail next season.

[MrHat]

I loved this season. Jax really started to come into his own and not only did he become as devious as Clay, he's surpassed him. Keep in mind that this is meant to be a retelling of the Hamlet story. There are NO happy endings coming ever. I am expecting Tara to kill herself in jail next season.

I could see that.

Wish we didn't know they still had two seasons to go though.

[Rendakor]

New season premieres tonight. Necroing this now so it's easier to find and comment on after the show.

[Samwise]

I haven't even seen the last season yet.  Is it still not available on Netflix or Amazon or anyplace?  WTF, FX.