Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles

[schild]

You've watched past the first half of season 1?

I find it's pretty much a general rule of thumb that if you can't make it through, you know, one season without wanting to retch on bullshit then you should stop watching the show. Or at least it works for me. I've yet to figure out how _anyone_ made it through all of the first season.

[schild]

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117994273.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

thank holy jesus on high

i'm going to bed

[Trippy]

This is FOX, though. Just cause they ordered more episodes doesn't mean they'll produce/show them all (*cough* Wonderfalls *cough*).

[schild]

Nope! But it means they'll get filmed by the time January starts up again and at worst case will be in the blu-ray box set!

[Cyrrex]

Thank goodness for that.

[Hutch]

Well I just caught up with my watching of this show via their web site. I hope like hell they have that site set up so it counts viewers. If that matters to them, I mean. I'd like to think that sitting through the same Dove commercial six times counts for something. Not to mention the "look they're driving a Dodge truck" moments.

[Slyfeind]

Behold how much you can pack into these trucks!!! Fortunately there were only a couple shots this last episode.

I don't know how they do it, but John Connor teaching a kid to tie her shoes seemed so damn cool to me. I like the shrink. I hope he doesn't die.

[Nevermore]

Anyone else notice that that's twice now that Skynet has sent a terminator back to do something, Cameron stops it, and Shirley comes along and benefits?

[Triforcer]

Last episode=awesome.  At first I didn't understand why the two terminators behaved in the elevator, but then I remembered Cameron can't draw attention to herself or the family and the redhead was there to protect the therapist, which is harder to do if you go on a killing spree in his building. 

[Nevermore]

Protect or kill?

[Merusk]

You're supposed to think Kill until Skynet in a can offers a job to the therapist, who's apparently going to help evolve Skynet 2.0.  This is why they had that bit of misdirection about "not everyone on the list needs protecting." "But p to now, everyone HAS been a target!"

[Cyrrex]

Part where the elevator opens, and they're just standing there all ruffled:  pure awesome.  Summer has that blank stare down to a science, and it's oddly adorable (probably because she's so, you know, hot).  And then she just rocked that other terminator bitch.

I like how this show takes it so slow.  I know a lot of you get worked up over all the emo/feelings shit, but I think it's what gives this show legs at the end of the day.  Makes it more believable.

[HaemishM]

Good episode, especially the bits with John and the therapist. I'm still not quite sure about Shirley Manson's role, but it has set up a lot of interesting story options.

[Cyrrex]

Isn't she basically there to make sure that, despite John and company's best efforts, that skynet's AI project succeeds?  Instead of just simply sending back machines to thwart the attempts to stop skynet, just send machines back to run the project.

Or is yours a deeper question?

Also, I thought her interactions with her daughter were interesting (and I managed to feel bad for the little girl too).  She, too, is capable of learning.

[MrHat]

Isn't she basically there to make sure that, despite John and company's best efforts, that skynet's AI project succeeds?  Instead of just simply sending back machines to thwart the attempts to stop skynet, just send machines back to run the project.

Or is yours a deeper question?

Also, I thought her interactions with her daughter were interesting (and I managed to feel bad for the little girl too).  She, too, is capable of learning.

Based on their interactions, I get the feeling that she's part of the 'can't we all just get along' machines of the future, sent back to evolve machines so much so early so that they become indistiguishable from the humans.

[Cyrrex]

Interesting theory.  And yes, I suppose she occasionally shows a teensy bit of empathy.  But why the hurry, then, in getting the program developed?  Would be more realistic if it was only the latter part of your theory (making them indistinguishable). 

[Erdrick]

Personally I think she's there to develope an improved version of skynet sooner but I get the feeling she like summer's character is going to somehow come across some form of empathy/understanding of the human race (likely from the daughter) and alter their motives. That or the "improved" version of skynet won't be like the skynet of the future at all as hinted by this eppisode with the humor aspect, what she'd do from that point I have no clue.

[Triforcer]

Only thing I don't like about the current story arc is the agent at ZeiraCorp.  It would have been a lot more interesting if he had stayed at the FBI, tried to help them while not alerting the government, etc.  Even the last episode felt like his character was just treading water, and they don't know what to do with him. 

[Slyfeind]

I missed last week's episode because I thought it was pre-empted by sports. Now I'm confused. Dagnabit! I loved Cameron's line though, "They won't be back."

I was sure John's new girlfriend was a Terminator or future chick or something funky, but next episode's trailer makes it seem that's not the case. That's rather cool that there's at least one new character that's not a robot or otherwise From The Future. I was getting kinda worried about that.

[WayAbvPar]

I finally broke down and added this to my TiVo lineup, so its cancellation should be announced any moment now.

[Evildrider]

It was recently just picked up for a full season.. have to wait til next Fall for the cancelled announcement.

[Reg]

Oh that's good news. I'd been hearing a lot of rumours about it being canceled too.

[Trippy]

Being picked up for full season doesn't mean it won't be cancelled. In the shows favor is the fact that this year networks are less willing to cancel low rated shows since they are still feeling the effects of the writers strike and don't have shows that could potentially do better waiting in the wings.

On the other hand, the show is moving to Fridays when American Idol returns and we all know what that means for FOX shows

Edit: effects

[Jeff Kelly]

Fox is shuffling it's whole schedule around for midseason.

Terminator switches to fridays at 8, Dollhouse is at 9 (certain death for both shows)
Bones moves to thursdays and will be followed by Kitchen Nightmares (WTF?)
24 is paired with house  on mondays while fringe stays on tuesday paierd with american idol.

No stone is left unturned.

[Merusk]

Terminator is moving to fridays?  Bye, bye.

Bones moving means they'll stop showing 2 episodes of KN in a row.  I guess KN must be holding its own against CSI and The Office for them not to move it. Or they just don't care.. but that's crazy.

Hrm.

[Trippy]

Terminator is moving to fridays?  Bye, bye.

Bones moving means they'll stop showing 2 episodes of KN in a row.  I guess KN must be holding its own against CSI and The Office for them not to move it. Or they just don't care.. but that's crazy.

Hrm.

They don't care. CSI and Grey's Anatomy are two of the top shows so Kitchen Nightmares is not expected to draw a significant number of viewers.

[schild]

Dollhouse looks like a giant pile of dogshit.

I have no clue what makes them think Terminator will line up with that at all. That said, maybe there will be MAGIC and both shows will be saved by this insane move. Obviously I'm as crazy as them and we'll have reruns of When Animals Attack by mid-Feb.

[Cyrrex]

You know what Terminator would line up well with?  Another episode of Terminator.  Why the fuck don't more people watch this show?  Is it really Fox's fault, or are we just a bunch of fanboy dorks who can't see that this show really sucks? 

[Trippy]

You know what Terminator would line up well with?  Another episode of Terminator.  Why the fuck don't more people watch this show?  Is it really Fox's fault, or are we just a bunch of fanboy dorks who can't see that this show really sucks? 

It's not FOX's fault (at least not yet). Also the number of people that watch a show is not necessarily indicitive of its "quality". I.e. there have been plenty of crap shows that a lot of people watched and plenty of excellent shows that not enough people watched.

[Evildrider]

What they put another Whedon show on Fridays.. can he never get a break?

[schild]

You do NOT want him to a break with fucking Dollhouse. That right there is a piece of shit that deserved either direct to VIDEO release or fridays, but nothing else.

[Evildrider]

Well according to some shit I read Fox wouldn't let him recut/refilm some of it.  Not that I've seen the show at all and really, wasn't psyched for it.  I'd have watched it to see Eliza Dushku.. same reason i watched Terminator cuz of Summer Glau.

I wasn't even a big Buffy/Angel fan.  I think he had his best shot with Firefly/Serenity and he's fucked from now on.

[palmer_eldritch]

You do NOT want him to a break with fucking Dollhouse. That right there is a piece of shit that deserved either direct to VIDEO release or fridays, but nothing else.

How do you know?

Some of us want to believe in the new Buffy!

[schild]

You do NOT want him to a break with fucking Dollhouse. That right there is a piece of shit that deserved either direct to VIDEO release or fridays, but nothing else.

How do you know?

Watch the trailer.

[Fordel]

You know what Terminator would line up well with?  Another episode of Terminator.  Why the fuck don't more people watch this show?  Is it really Fox's fault, or are we just a bunch of fanboy dorks who can't see that this show really sucks? 

I can't say if the show sucks or not, but I lost interest *REALLY* fast with this one. The first episode I was all hyped and into it, ready to go! I wasn't let down, but each episode there after I started to care less and less and exceedingly less. The show just went from "Must watch!" to "meh" in near record time.

Outside of the amusing novelty of Summer Glau being the terminator, I just could not bring myself to care about any of it.