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Reply #105 on: October 01, 2008, 03:52:47 PM

Canceling terminator would seriously make me boycott anything Fox ever produces again, including movies. I am sick to fucking death of them.
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Reply #106 on: October 01, 2008, 03:54:46 PM

It sounds exactly like the retarded thing Fox is so happy to do.
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Reply #107 on: October 01, 2008, 04:02:13 PM

As we've covered before, someone high-up in Programming at Fox sincerely, deeply and almost pathologically HATES Sci-Fi.  This is why they do things like:
I'm sure it also has nothing to do with Fox putting Terminator/Prison Break up against a great pair of shows in Chuck/Heroes.

Or move the show around to 3 different time slots, or pre-empt it for weeks and then say "oh, geez, ratings didn't average out, SORRY!"

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Reply #108 on: October 02, 2008, 01:21:07 AM

I'm sure it also has nothing to do with Fox putting Terminator/Prison Break up against a great pair of shows in Chuck/Heroes.
Can't blame that cause T:SCC started weeks before Chuck and Heroes.

Or move the show around to 3 different time slots, or pre-empt it for weeks and then say "oh, geez, ratings didn't average out, SORRY!"
While I wouldn't necessarily say they've given the show the best chance possible to succeed, the fact that it wasn't on Friday means they didn't plan from the beginning for it to fail.

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Reply #109 on: October 02, 2008, 01:23:10 AM

They're in a terrible time slot, seriously. Move it off Monday. Monday is just too fucking loaded. 50 million things to watch.

Also, Prison Break is a horrible pile of shit.
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Reply #110 on: October 02, 2008, 01:28:28 AM

They're in a terrible time slot, seriously. Move it off Monday. Monday is just too fucking loaded. 50 million things to watch.

Also, Prison Break is a horrible pile of shit.
There's way too much stuff on Thursdays which is why FOX has crap on that day. Wednesday would be okay except that's Bones' slot awesome, for real and Tuesdays is House/Fringe. So unless you really think Friday would be a better day for it Monday is it.
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Reply #111 on: October 02, 2008, 01:38:28 AM

http://www.entertainmenttoday.net/content/view/705/29

I guess for every rumor there's an antirumor?
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Reply #112 on: October 02, 2008, 01:46:03 AM

They conveniently left out the viewership numbers, though.
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Reply #113 on: October 02, 2008, 01:46:58 AM

Neilsen ratings are like the republican party: crazy, outdated, and only important to Fox.
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Reply #114 on: October 02, 2008, 01:52:09 AM

True but advertisers as well still care about it (I believe).

Here are some of the numbers:

Sept 29, 2008
Sept 22, 2008
Sept 15, 2008
Sept 8, 2008 (season premiere)
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Reply #115 on: October 03, 2008, 03:51:27 PM

Did not get to watch this past Mondays showing of Terminator or Prisonbreak. Charter Cable where I live in Brookings, Oregon had trouble transmitting from time o time on certain channels the entire night. The picture was there 80% but zero sound whole 2 hours long and lots of white noise in place. Same night ABC wasn't' transmitting well either.


It happens from time to time other times its CBS where Survivor doesn't come thru.


Really not an expert on why, but I hear like the cable tower has trouble transmitting thru the fog. Or the signal comes from Medford, Oregon over the hills and is int eruptted by weather. Or depending on which TV station/channel it is has trouble coming north from Eureka, California because of weather.

Just really sucks its like rolling a 1 on a dice roll you lose tonight's shows but tomorrows will be just fine.
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Reply #116 on: October 03, 2008, 04:12:00 PM

True but advertisers as well still care about it (I believe).

Here are some of the numbers:

Sept 29, 2008
Sept 22, 2008
Sept 15, 2008
Sept 8, 2008 (season premiere)


Dancing with the stars, CSI: Miami, and 2 and 1/2 men are the top three? GOD DAMNIT.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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Reply #117 on: October 03, 2008, 06:46:52 PM

Dancing with the Stars is one of the top shows each season, usually only behind American Idol. And CSI: Miami and Two and a Half Men are both perenial Top 20 shows.

Last season's rankings:

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/05/29/final-2007-8-season-top-tv-shows-by-viewers/3944
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Reply #118 on: October 03, 2008, 08:06:28 PM

Doesn't make it good awesome, for real
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Reply #119 on: October 04, 2008, 11:33:20 AM

Doesn't make it good awesome, for real

Good or not isn't the question, because advertisers are stupid, clueless fuckwits.  Number of eyeballs that may or may not at some future date buy your products matters.  If advertisers had any brains they'd have taken what they learned on "eyeballs vs click-throughs" in web advertising, applied it to TV and saved themselves a TON of cash.

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Reply #120 on: October 06, 2008, 09:31:38 AM

If Fox had any goddamn sense, they'd have kept Bones/House together and put Fringe/Terminator together on a night. Synergy bitches.

But this is Fox we're talking about, who has ZERO clue about how to market sci-fi shows.

My thoughts on last week's episode: Cameron is an infiltration bot, and she was sent in to get close to John. Knowing he'd likely reprogram her, they set up a trojan program that would eventually get awoken after she was sent in the past, allowing her to kill John Conner in the past like they wanted to all along.

Convoluted? Yes. But then, you know, sending a robot back in time to kill the mother of an unborn resistance leader. That's such a simple plan.  Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #121 on: October 06, 2008, 10:01:50 AM

My PVR is saying that Terminator is on tonight, but that COPS has taken it's spot next week...

uh oh...

My PVR has lied to me before though.

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Reply #122 on: October 06, 2008, 10:30:10 AM


My thoughts on last week's episode: Cameron is an infiltration bot, and she was sent in to get close to John. Knowing he'd likely reprogram her, they set up a trojan program that would eventually get awoken after she was sent in the past, allowing her to kill John Conner in the past like they wanted to all along.


Similar to my thoughts, but with an important addendum:  Cameron is becoming more self-aware than she was ever intended to.  She's learning, and pushing the envelope in terms of the emotions these machines may eventually develop.  There will be close calls (cuz it's good TV), but she won't turn on John for any significant length of time.

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Reply #123 on: October 06, 2008, 06:25:09 PM

My PVR is saying that Terminator is on tonight, but that COPS has taken it's spot next week...

uh oh...

My PVR has lied to me before though.

It'll be back in two weeks, according to the 'next time on Terminator' preview.

Over and out.
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Reply #124 on: October 06, 2008, 06:29:19 PM

Next Monday FOX has playoff baseball in the afternoon/evening and if the game runs late it would've cut into the show.
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Reply #125 on: October 06, 2008, 06:36:55 PM


My thoughts on last week's episode: Cameron is an infiltration bot, and she was sent in to get close to John. Knowing he'd likely reprogram her, they set up a trojan program that would eventually get awoken after she was sent in the past, allowing her to kill John Conner in the past like they wanted to all along.


Similar to my thoughts, but with an important addendum:  Cameron is becoming more self-aware than she was ever intended to.  She's learning, and pushing the envelope in terms of the emotions these machines may eventually develop.  There will be close calls (cuz it's good TV), but she won't turn on John for any significant length of time.

The show won't last that long.
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Reply #126 on: October 07, 2008, 04:20:52 AM

Goddamn I'm going to miss this show.
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Reply #127 on: October 07, 2008, 04:27:05 AM

Me too. It looks to me like Cameron's flaky chip was going to end up making her actually become self-aware and that would have been fun to watch.
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Reply #128 on: October 07, 2008, 06:00:20 AM

So what was up with Cameron lurking in the forest at the end?

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Reply #129 on: October 07, 2008, 06:20:55 AM

Guarding John?
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Reply #130 on: October 07, 2008, 09:02:53 AM

So did it actually get cancelled ?

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Reply #131 on: October 07, 2008, 09:10:57 AM

So did it actually get cancelled ?


Not yet.  It's apparently got a large DVR audience that's giving Fox pause.  Not particularly surprising given the demographic, but Fox tends to be a bit trigger happy when it comes to cancellations.
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Reply #132 on: October 07, 2008, 09:19:41 AM

Guarding John?


Piss poor job since she just watched him bait and take out the terminator himself.  Had to be a deliberate "let him become his own man" type decision.

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Reply #133 on: October 07, 2008, 05:23:36 PM

Had to be a deliberate "let him become his own man" type decision.
I figured she was there "in case of an emergency". Or maybe she just wanted to learn other methods for destroying Terminators.
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Reply #134 on: October 08, 2008, 05:17:00 AM

I love this show.

But they can do with a bit less crying and a bit more robot fights.

It's also interesting to see SkyNet Incarnate plotting stuff.  Even when stuff goes wrong, it's still to her advantage.  Like chess.....
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Reply #135 on: October 08, 2008, 11:30:38 AM

I missed a couple weeks of this because of Lost on SciFi (I missed Lost when it originally aired), then thought I'd never watch it again because of Heroes. Yay that it's not conflicting with Heroes...but is Chuck really a good competitor? That show looks awful. The ads make it seem like such crap, because it's Tango music with people saying "Chuck" over and over, which makes me think of vomitting after too much to drink at a Ballroom Dance.

So then I actually got to watch last Monday's episode. Holy crap. The reading of "Wizard of Oz" all through that sequence was just brilliant. I actually like the angst, but it would be cool if, just once in a while, there was an inspirational moment once in a while where "Yeah, Private Hicks went out alone that night. We all thought he was dead. Three months later he came home, missing an eye and three fingers on his left hand, but with a T-888 head on a pole he was using as a walking stick. We all got real drunk that night and Hicks never stopped talking about how he took them out." I mean fuck, not everybody has to die, all the time.

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Reply #136 on: October 08, 2008, 11:57:28 AM

I hope if this show does get canned that the writer puts up a synopsis of what the hell the red headed terminators plans are. I am very curious about what the hell is up with her. I am also very curious if she won't be one of the others that cameron was talking about those robots who have for whatever reason decided against making humans extinct.

I am also very curious why she wants a triple 8 or even does she actually even want one. If she does not want one why fuck with the FBI guy if she sees him as a threat she seems more than willing to off him instead of just playing some kind of odd game with him.
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Reply #137 on: October 08, 2008, 02:28:18 PM

I missed a couple weeks of this because of Lost on SciFi (I missed Lost when it originally aired), then thought I'd never watch it again because of Heroes. Yay that it's not conflicting with Heroes...but is Chuck really a good competitor? That show looks awful. The ads make it seem like such crap, because it's Tango music with people saying "Chuck" over and over, which makes me think of vomitting after too much to drink at a Ballroom Dance.


Chuck is actually one of the best shows on regular Network TV right now.

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Reply #138 on: October 08, 2008, 02:31:27 PM

Chuck is so vastly superior to Lost or Heroes it's not even funny.
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Reply #139 on: October 08, 2008, 02:38:36 PM

Have you even watched season 3 and 4 of Lost?

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