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Reply #35 on: September 16, 2008, 04:14:25 AM

It's quite fascinating from a linguistic point of view.

Being a German native speaker and having communicated with the Dutch (Dutch sounding and looking like misspelled German in any imaginable way) I wondered if there possibly was any other "un-even" pair of languages.

Well, here it is.

Dutch is the classic example, but isn't one of the Hochdeutsch group a closer match?

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Reply #36 on: September 16, 2008, 04:42:10 AM

You possibly mean what is known as "flat German" ("Plattdeutsch", free translation), which is spoken in the more northern parts of Germany.

However, unlike Dutch - which to a non-speaker is only comprehendable if you know German, English -and- have a feel for when to guess the rest of a sentence based on the context - "flat German" is perfectly understandable.
Having said that, I'm not from Germany, but here in Austria we have SO many dialects that it leaves you wondering if what you hear really -is- German.

Perhaps your comparison is correct, though, as I don't know how Scot "feels" to English native speakers - to me it is just like Dutch, where I have to guess half the content and read aloud to get the rest. To you it might just be a light accent swamp poop

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Reply #37 on: September 16, 2008, 04:52:00 AM

I meant Hochdeutsch, although Plattdeutsch would be as good an example.  Each is a group of regional variants.  Plattdeutsch might be a better example, I suppose, since they tended to diverge and develop alongside - rather than evolving from - the dominant language.  Much like Scots and English with Frisian.

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Reply #38 on: September 16, 2008, 10:53:02 AM

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Reply #39 on: September 18, 2008, 11:06:03 AM

The thing I find baffling is that they have wikipedia articles in Cornish, which has been a dead language for ages, notwithstanding random attempts to revive it.
So it's alright for the Gaels to speak their English dialect, but not for the Brythons to use their version of one of the original British languages?  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #40 on: September 18, 2008, 11:36:18 AM

Perhaps your comparison is correct, though, as I don't know how Scot "feels" to English native speakers - to me it is just like Dutch, where I have to guess half the content and read aloud to get the rest.

This is it.  I can understand it much better if I (try to) speak it, but there are plenty of words not in English.  The rest just sounds like you're really drunk or maybe just came from the dentist.

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Reply #41 on: September 18, 2008, 12:05:59 PM

Perhaps your comparison is correct, though, as I don't know how Scot "feels" to English native speakers - to me it is just like Dutch, where I have to guess half the content and read aloud to get the rest.

This is it.  I can understand it much better if I (try to) speak it, but there are plenty of words not in English.  The rest just sounds like you're really drunk or maybe just came from the dentist.

It's fair to assume it's your first guess.

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Reply #42 on: September 18, 2008, 12:08:50 PM

I'm going to have to insist that anyone who tries to make a serious argument in this thread do so in Scots.
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Reply #43 on: September 18, 2008, 12:17:51 PM

The thing I find baffling is that they have wikipedia articles in Cornish, which has been a dead language for ages, notwithstanding random attempts to revive it.
So it's alright for the Gaels to speak their English dialect, but not for the Brythons to use their version of one of the original British languages?  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

The Gaels speak a Godelic language.  It's us Lowlanders that speak Frisian dialects.

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Reply #44 on: September 18, 2008, 04:47:25 PM

The thing I find baffling is that they have wikipedia articles in Cornish, which has been a dead language for ages, notwithstanding random attempts to revive it.
So it's alright for the Gaels to speak their English dialect, but not for the Brythons to use their version of one of the original British languages?  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

The difference is the Gaels actually *speak* it. Cornish might as well be Sindarin or Quenya at this point - you could probably find more people who'd understand the latter two.  tongue

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Reply #45 on: September 18, 2008, 05:52:21 PM

... Sindarin or Quenya ...

The fact that the statement made perfect sense to me is rather depressing.

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Reply #46 on: September 19, 2008, 04:01:28 AM

I'm going to have to insist that anyone who tries to make a serious argument in this thread do so in Scots.

Ha. But the kids in my neighbourhood west of Edinburgh would have said "Di ye ken Grand Design?" and written "Do you know Grand Design?".
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Reply #47 on: September 19, 2008, 05:29:21 AM

I'm going to have to insist that anyone who tries to make a serious argument in this thread do so in Scots.


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Reply #48 on: September 19, 2008, 11:59:33 AM

I understood everything that came out of every Scot's mouth while I was there, and I even had a homeless guy explain the monetary system to me.  We were like "We will give you this ten if you tell us what all these coins are worth."  Perfectly understandable.  Even the old codgers in the pub, late at night.

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Reply #49 on: September 19, 2008, 12:28:58 PM

We were like "We will give you this ten if you tell us what all these coins are worth."

So he got £10 AND a story about Americans?
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Reply #50 on: September 19, 2008, 12:30:54 PM

We were like "We will give you this ten if you tell us what all these coins are worth."

So he got £10 AND a story about Americans?

Yep, was his lucky day.

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Reply #51 on: September 21, 2008, 08:40:21 PM

Or the Sarry's Heid by the Barrowlands.

One thing these texts miss out, of course, is the incredibly rich, varied and widespread use of the word "fuck" in Scots.  We're good at saying it - it fits most Scots accents very well - and so we roll it out constantly.  Fred MacAuley says that he stood behind a supporter at a St Johnstone football match who was voicing his disapproval by shouting "Fuckin' Boo"

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