Evildrider
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If you are paying for a BETA.. you get what you ask for.
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cevik
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If you are paying for a BETA.. you get what you ask for.
And when you charge for beta and don't deliver, you also are getting what you asked for when the customers are pissed off.
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fuser
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if you guys owned the forums you could just ban the people making death threats and the like.
Always struck me funny that all the forums are community ran and people scramble to random site xyz for info that's not on the herald.
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Evildrider
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If you are paying for a BETA.. you get what you ask for.
And when you charge for beta and don't deliver, you also are getting what you asked for when the customers are pissed off. Actually you were pre-ordering and getting the beta with that pre-order. You do not lose that money it gets taken off your retail price.
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schild
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Logic doesn't stop trolls from trolling.
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cevik
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Logic doesn't stop trolls from trolling.
It's not logic, you paid $5 for a ticket to beta and a $5 off coupon for the game. With open beta being such a short time, those people who purchased the box specifically with the intention of playing the game for a couple of days (and not take advantage of the $5 coupon) have been, in the most technical sense, "fucked out of their money".
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schild
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No, you paid $5 to guarantee a copy of the game on release day which will then be reduced by $5 (basically paying the first $5 of the total price). You did not pay for anything else. Sorry, but the angle you chose to argue is crappy, crappy, crappy.
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cevik
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No, you paid $5 to guarantee a copy of the game on release day which will then be reduced by $5 (basically paying the first $5 of the total price). You did not pay for anything else. Sorry, but the angle you chose to argue is crappy, crappy, crappy.
No, your angle for attempting to apologize for Mythic is crappy crappy crappy. People are going into the store and paying $5 for the promise of being allowed to play the game. They get home, they can't play. They are then rightfully getting pissed at being sold a product that doesn't deliver as promised. Then you guys are shocked that when someone spent $5 for something they got mad when it didn't work. I think you're a fucking idiot for being all shocked that people are pissed that something they spent money on doesn't work. Whatever silly excuses you want to make to the people who are out $5 is really rather insignificant, people are still pissed they spent $5 on something and it didn't deliver as promised.
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fuser
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Abelian75
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Being pissed is totally understandable. Being a completely belligerent fuckwit asshole about it isn't.
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Trippy
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No, you paid $5 to guarantee a copy of the game on release day which will then be reduced by $5 (basically paying the first $5 of the total price). You did not pay for anything else. Sorry, but the angle you chose to argue is crappy, crappy, crappy.
No, your angle for attempting to apologize for Mythic is crappy crappy crappy. People are going into the store and paying $5 for the promise of being allowed to play the game. They get home, they can't play. They are then rightfully getting pissed at being sold a product that doesn't deliver as promised. Then you guys are shocked that when someone spent $5 for something they got mad when it didn't work. I think you're a fucking idiot for being all shocked that people are pissed that something they spent money on doesn't work. Whatever silly excuses you want to make to the people who are out $5 is really rather insignificant, people are still pissed they spent $5 on something and it didn't deliver as promised. I'm with cevik on this one. I've bought a few pre-order boxes for the express purpose of getting into the Beta (and then afterwards not buying the game cause the Beta sucked  ). I find that easier that trying to race hundreds of thousands of other people on the Internet for the available slots. I would be pissed too if I bought the WAR one just to try out the Beta and then never was able to get in.
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Montague
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MBJ responded on Lum's blog post about this fiasco with a lengthy diatribe. The drama is getting to be more interesting than the game... 
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schild
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No, you paid $5 to guarantee a copy of the game on release day which will then be reduced by $5 (basically paying the first $5 of the total price). You did not pay for anything else. Sorry, but the angle you chose to argue is crappy, crappy, crappy.
No, your angle for attempting to apologize for Mythic is crappy crappy crappy. People are going into the store and paying $5 for the promise of being allowed to play the game. They get home, they can't play. They are then rightfully getting pissed at being sold a product that doesn't deliver as promised. Then you guys are shocked that when someone spent $5 for something they got mad when it didn't work. I think you're a fucking idiot for being all shocked that people are pissed that something they spent money on doesn't work. Whatever silly excuses you want to make to the people who are out $5 is really rather insignificant, people are still pissed they spent $5 on something and it didn't deliver as promised. I'm with cevik on this one. I've bought a few pre-order boxes for the express purpose of getting into the Beta (and then afterwards not buying the game cause the Beta sucked  ). I find that easier that trying to race hundreds of thousands of other people on the Internet for the available slots. I would be pissed too if I bought the WAR one just to try out the Beta and then never was able to get in. You do know you can get your $5 back, right?
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Trippy
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With gas prices these days it's easier just to stay home  (Actually that's not true since I was about 2 miles from my closest Fry's before, though now I'm about 6 miles away).
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schild
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Driving a hummer must be rough.
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Trippy
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Indeed. I measure my fuel consumption in gallons per mile.
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fuser
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MBJ responded on Lum's blog post about this fiasco with a lengthy diatribe. The drama is getting to be more interesting than the game...  Indeed look at all the 414 videos. I'm looking for the "nazi" one, I'm guessing its the meme of The DownfallEdit: yep its out there...
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Der Helm
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Soooo... is there any way to get one of those coveted keys ? I'd like to see if I can run this game. AoC almost melted my PC. 
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cevik
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I've always wondered about the All Black People Eat Watermelons
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Soooo... is there any way to get one of those coveted keys ? I'd like to see if I can run this game. AoC almost melted my PC.  I think open beta is over and they've switched to pre-release now, so I think you're out of luck. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong about this.
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fuser
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I think open beta is over and they've switched to pre-release now, so I think you're out of luck. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong about this.
Open beta is still running, the head start starts Sunday so Friday might be the last server day. Soooo... is there any way to get one of those coveted keys ? I'd like to see if I can run this game. AoC almost melted my PC.  Try http://www.warcry.com/contests/register/warhammerbeta see if they still have keys, you just have to register at warcry and they instantly give you one. Edit: If you do get a key: * Use it to create an account at: https://accounts.eamythic.com/ * Download the client via torrent at: http://torrent2.eamythic.com/WarBeta.torrentThe torrent is a bit faster and you will end up in a queue on file planet for like days.
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Wershlak
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It says they are out of keys.
I'm totally over participating in betas but I can't tell from everyone's comments if this is a game I'll enjoy or not. Everyone has positive and negative comments but it's hard to tell what applies to me and what doesn't. My tastes aren't typical.
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Goreschach
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It says they are out of keys.
I'm totally over participating in betas but I can't tell from everyone's comments if this is a game I'll enjoy or not. Everyone has positive and negative comments but it's hard to tell what applies to me and what doesn't. My tastes aren't typical.
Try watching some of this guy's videos. He does a good job of showing off the classes and game mechanics. It's pretty much all rvr, but that's the main point of the game anyway.
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Der Helm
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Hm. Since it looks like I am SOL, could someone tell me if a PC that runs WoW (reasonably) well will be able to run this thing ?
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Hawkbit
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Hm. Since it looks like I am SOL, could someone tell me if a PC that runs WoW (reasonably) well will be able to run this thing ?
It seems a little meatier than WoW, but nowhere near where AoC was at. There's still a bunch of optimization that needs to take place over the next year or two. I also really hope they add innate AA/Ani/Vsync options to the client.
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Trippy
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Hm. Since it looks like I am SOL, could someone tell me if a PC that runs WoW (reasonably) well will be able to run this thing ?
What are your PC specs?
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Zetor
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Well it runs a heck of a lot better/faster than AOC, but then that isn't saying much.  There is some slowdown when a lot of players are onscreen at the same time [such as a huge rvr zerg], but if you don't lag in the "mana wyrm room" of Magister's Terrace in WOW, you should be fine. -- Z.
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veredus
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If it helps I am running
CPU 3.0 3.5 gigs of ram ATI 2600 PRO AGP all on Vista
I turned the settings down some and I have had no issues running it in busy scenarios or PQ's. Not like AoC where I had to avoid crowds for the most part.
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Arthur_Parker
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GOA making themselves popular again in Europe. We will be bringing down all open beta servers to apply patch 4.1.1 at 3pm CET today. We expect this operation to take approximately one hour and we will be sure to let you know when the servers are available once more.
Patch Update - 19:45 CET
As you will have noticed the open beta servers are still down following the patch operation. Our technicians are working on the issue and we expect to be able to reopen them shortly. We are sorry for the delay. Currently it's 22:50 CET. Been away since Sunday when their authentication servers were down but game servers up, come back to authentication servers up but game servers down. Haven't seen any death threats yet, but the night is young and my hopes are high.
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Trippy
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In their defense it sounds like Mythic is to blame as well. Patch was delayed till afternoon from morning because they were waiting on an update from Mythic and then something went kaplooey which requried Mythic to get in there and figure out what they broke.
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Gets
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Doesn't matter anymore. As soon as the EU servers finally came up people started praising some sort of "miracle" patch. All the rampant GOA bashing stopped on a dime and the game is declared awesome and sexy.
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Simond
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...until the next time something goes wrong. C'mon now, this is hardly without precedent.
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Gets
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eldaec
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In their defense it sounds like Mythic is to blame as well. Patch was delayed till afternoon from morning because they were waiting on an update from Mythic and then something went kaplooey which requried Mythic to get in there and figure out what they broke.
We've been around this before though, and not just for WAR. Personally, I don't think many players care if the problem is that GOA can't work with Mythic or that Mythic can't work with GOA. Or that opentransit can't work with GOA working with Mythic etc.
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