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Reply #140 on: September 04, 2008, 03:53:47 PM

Interesting comparison of Flash CPU usage on FF, Chrome and IE 8:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080904/ap_on_hi_te/tec_tech_test_google_chrome
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Reply #141 on: September 04, 2008, 03:55:53 PM

I started using it last night at home (Mac at work).

I like FF3 but I find it a bit bloated feeling, and I have hardly any add-ons. Also, FF3 does this weird thing. Every time I start it up, it will run fine for 5 to 10 seconds, then it will freeze my entire computer for 10 to 15 seconds. After that everything is fine, but its a pain in the ass.

Chrome does not freeze my computer and runs pretty damn fast. I just wish there was an easy way to change the skin. The blue is really bugging me, and doesnt go with my desktop theme at all.
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Reply #142 on: September 04, 2008, 03:58:27 PM

Modify the source and recompile it  awesome, for real
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Reply #143 on: September 04, 2008, 04:14:47 PM

Doesn't play nice with Sandboxie, which I've taken to using whenever I visit a site that may be dodgy (not that, pervs, I'm mostly talking about indy game stuff).  Just doesn't reach the internet at all for some reason.  Yeah, I know that right now there aren't any exploits specifically for Chrome, but most of them are using Flash.

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Reply #144 on: September 04, 2008, 04:27:36 PM

Meh.  Looks nice but I miss NoScript.  Feels like I'm not wearing pants on the Internet.

Speaking from personal experience, though, that's a mighty fine feeling.

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Reply #145 on: September 04, 2008, 04:32:46 PM

I wish there was a way to just open files instead of being forced to download them, sometimes I don't want to save it on my hard drive, damnit!
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Reply #146 on: September 04, 2008, 07:34:29 PM

Interesting comparison of Flash CPU usage on FF, Chrome and IE 8:

I just tested FF3 on YouTube w/ Vista and a year old Quad Core. 5% CPU usage. I don't know where they got 95% usage from YouTube's Flash. Is XP on a 3 year old laptop really that crappy? FF2 limited Flash to a single core. FF3 lets Flash use all cores.


Chrome is pretty meh for me. Why are tabs even farther away from the center of the screen (where my cursor lives) better?
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Reply #147 on: September 05, 2008, 09:14:00 AM

Interesting comparison of Flash CPU usage on FF, Chrome and IE 8:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080904/ap_on_hi_te/tec_tech_test_google_chrome


I would not call you tubes use of flash, Standard flash.

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Reply #148 on: September 05, 2008, 10:20:37 AM

Played around with it, like it. But to be fair its not that much faster than Firefox with Tracemonkey. I think when the novelty runs out this will be relegated to my second browser for more unsavory websites instead of Opera.
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Reply #149 on: September 06, 2008, 03:10:11 PM

Tried this when it launched, then picked it up again today. Seems to have improved some in terms of support, but otherwise the same lightning-fast clean browser it's been billed as. I've so far experienced nothing that would prevent me from dropping Firefox.

Is this a serious attempt by Google, or a soon-forgotten 20% project built just to compel Mozilla and MS to stop bloatifying their browsers?
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Reply #150 on: September 06, 2008, 05:44:39 PM

Probably a warning shot over the IE8 offsite cookie blocking default that would make Google's purchase of DoubleClick a complete waste.

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Reply #151 on: September 06, 2008, 11:09:27 PM

I wish there was a way to just open files instead of being forced to download them, sometimes I don't want to save it on my hard drive, damnit!

Um. If you're opening it, you're saving it. You might not know it but that's what's happening. Better to be informed, no?

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Reply #152 on: September 07, 2008, 04:52:38 AM

Yep. I've long since gotten tired of all the hidden folders Microsoft hides all over the drive to facilitate the download/open process. Can't tell you how often I've had to find those files after having mistakenly made edits without moving them to a real folder. MS Outlook is the worst of the bunch: you can't actually get to the folder unless you manually type in the path, as two folders in the hierarchy don't even appear when hidden items are shown. At least with IE, I can navigate to where it's caching files.
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Reply #153 on: September 07, 2008, 05:42:41 AM

Oh, and is there any way to get back to the "Most Visited" GUI page short of restarting the program? I currently just open a new tab but it's an extra mouse click to close the prior one. A whole extra mouse click!!!
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Reply #154 on: September 07, 2008, 11:10:32 AM

Is this a serious attempt by Google, or a soon-forgotten 20% project built just to compel Mozilla and MS to stop bloatifying their browsers?
From what I've heard, this isn't so much about directly competing with other browsers (for now) but for laying the groundwork for their future apps.  With this, they can specially develop all their new applications for the browser, in a much more powerful way (as Trippy said, getting around shit like AJAX).  They will integrate Android with the whole thing.  So it's more about them creating a development platform with which to continue their virtualization drive, which is just awesome to me.

In Short, hopefully it's the start of that Google OS we always talk about  awesome, for real.

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Reply #155 on: September 08, 2008, 08:37:40 AM

They made it specifically to combat Ad-Blocking in firefox. The lack of ad blocking makes it totally worthless to me.


It's pretty fast though.
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Reply #156 on: September 08, 2008, 08:42:58 AM

The day google makes an OS is the day the world ends.
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Reply #157 on: September 08, 2008, 09:38:20 AM

The day google makes an OS is the day the world ends.

Wednesday?
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Reply #158 on: September 08, 2008, 11:58:09 AM

The day google makes an OS is the day the world ends.

Wednesday?

No, the LHC will end the world on Wednesday... Google will have to wait until AFTER the earth is swallowed by a man-made black hole.
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Reply #159 on: September 08, 2008, 01:00:30 PM

Right.  They will be our overlords in the next earth.
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Reply #160 on: September 08, 2008, 01:37:25 PM

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Reply #161 on: September 08, 2008, 03:33:47 PM

Not surprising because it sends everything you enter in the "Omnibox" to Google where it's stored until the heat death of the universe (actually only 5% is stored until the end of time but of course they never tell you which 5%) and it indexes everything you view including sensitive information (like your banking account information) that anybody can then see by typing in said box.

Edit: whoops it's 2% not 5%:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10031661-56.html
« Last Edit: September 08, 2008, 05:53:35 PM by Trippy »
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Reply #162 on: September 08, 2008, 04:05:39 PM

wait, what? who types bank credentials into the URL bar anyway? the url or the bank's name, sure, but if your daft enough to put in username and password into the URL/Omnibar/whateve, you get what you deserve. There's no keeping that type of person safe.

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Reply #163 on: September 08, 2008, 04:17:24 PM

wait, what? who types bank credentials into the URL bar anyway? the url or the bank's name, sure, but if your daft enough to put in username and password into the URL/Omnibar/whateve, you get what you deserve. There's no keeping that type of person safe.
No that's not what happens. Chrome is indexing the contents of the pages your visit while your surf so you can retrieve that information when searching:

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/39176/108/
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Reply #164 on: September 08, 2008, 05:37:42 PM

ook. well, yep, that's pretty wack

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Reply #165 on: September 08, 2008, 07:03:53 PM

Anyone else having flash issues with it?  I have the latest flash but sites that display fine in other browsers show plugin not installed in chrome.

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Reply #166 on: September 08, 2008, 07:15:20 PM

wait, what? who types bank credentials into the URL bar anyway? the url or the bank's name, sure, but if your daft enough to put in username and password into the URL/Omnibar/whateve, you get what you deserve. There's no keeping that type of person safe.
No that's not what happens. Chrome is indexing the contents of the pages your visit while your surf so you can retrieve that information when searching:

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/39176/108/


Yea, ok, well this browsers dead to me.

Nice try Google... whatever happened to you? You used to be so friendly.  sad
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Reply #167 on: September 08, 2008, 07:29:40 PM

Google has always been about hording personal information about its users. They used to store all searches associated by cookies/IP/whatever other means of tracking you until the end of time. Under pressure from the EU they've shortened it but basically they have been and continue to accumulate massive amounts of personal information from all of its users. And to top it all off they have vague, missing, misleading, out right incorrect privacy policies about all this information they are hording.


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Reply #168 on: September 08, 2008, 07:54:49 PM

wait, what? who types bank credentials into the URL bar anyway? the url or the bank's name, sure, but if your daft enough to put in username and password into the URL/Omnibar/whateve, you get what you deserve. There's no keeping that type of person safe.
No that's not what happens. Chrome is indexing the contents of the pages your visit while your surf so you can retrieve that information when searching:

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/39176/108/


Yea, ok, well this browsers dead to me.

Nice try Google... whatever happened to you? You used to be so friendly.  sad
No they have never been friendly, they are just marketed as such and people eat it up.  They are just as bad as microsoft, maybe worse since all microsoft wanted was your money, Google wants your soul.
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Reply #169 on: September 09, 2008, 04:45:50 AM

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Reply #170 on: September 09, 2008, 08:33:45 PM

wait, what? who types bank credentials into the URL bar anyway? the url or the bank's name, sure, but if your daft enough to put in username and password into the URL/Omnibar/whateve, you get what you deserve. There's no keeping that type of person safe.
No that's not what happens. Chrome is indexing the contents of the pages your visit while your surf so you can retrieve that information when searching:

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/39176/108/

I read that but don't quite get it. I see my History being updated, but I can't actually load any of the https sites I use. Any time I click them they present the login page (because I never stay logged in to the important sites). What are people doing that they can pull info from pages locked behind a login page? And yea, I feel dense asking that.
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Reply #171 on: September 09, 2008, 08:54:33 PM

Open up a blank tab and in the Searches box on the right type in, say, "Darniaq" (assuming you've surfed f13.net with it). You see the little text snippets around your keyword that show up in the search? That's the text it's indexing.

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Reply #172 on: September 09, 2008, 09:10:21 PM

This has been blocked by work. People weren't happy with the autoupdater and other stuff apparently.
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Reply #173 on: September 10, 2008, 09:29:09 AM

Open up a blank tab and in the Searches box on the right type in, say, "Darniaq" (assuming you've surfed f13.net with it). You see the little text snippets around your keyword that show up in the search? That's the text it's indexing.

Jeezus. Thanks man. That's some pretty unfortunate stuff. Yea, that's the end of Google Chrome for me.
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Reply #174 on: September 10, 2008, 01:41:40 PM

Isn't it just searching your browser history pages? Firefox and IE both store all that crap too. They just don't make it searchable. Chrome probably just indexes it like Google Desktop search does.
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