Fallen Earth: Improvements (Now in beta)

[Signe]

MMORPG.com is giving open beta keys away right now if there is anyone left in the world who doesn't have one.

[Hayduke]

So is Fileplanet.  Don't have to be a subscriber even though their site looks a little misleading.

[Falwell]

Launch pushed to Sept. 15th.

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[Ozzu]

I like this game, but I don't think I want to pay 50 bucks upfront for it. It very well might be worth the monthly fee however. We'll see. I'm enjoying myself when I get a chance to play.

[Lantyssa]

I only wish it wasn't launching at about the same time as Aion.  I'm also not sure about the $15 a month sub.  If it were less it would be a lot easier for me to pick it up and play when I felt like it.

[Surlyboi]

I'm not playing Aion. It left me...meh.

I like the nicheness of this game and I've enjoyed playing it when I had the time.

[Lantyssa]

I'll have a duo going with Aion.  If I were just playing by myself I would probably pass.  If I'm going to play a pretty standard DIKU, then I'm going to at least make it a well-crafted one where the devs take some pride in producing a complete product.

FE is a lot more complex though, which I love, and it's something I would be fine playing on my own.  I played it as a survivalist where I can't rely on anyone and that's been a lot of fun.  If others are picking it up I might just to do the initial meet-up, then do a sub later.

[Rendakor]

From everyone's impressions here, the game sounds interesting but not worth the investment. Maybe when the box goes down to the $20-30 range, I'll pick it up and give it a shot.

[jason]

I've really enjoyed the game quite a bit.  But I'm not buying in unless they can fix the graphics issues.  I've got a good system, plays tons of games well like the recent crop of MMOs and Crysis and whatnot.. but in Fallen Earth, no matter how much I tweak the system/game, I get great frame rates when I'm out in the wilderness, but when I get near town or around more than 10-15 people, it turns into a slide show.

If they can just fix that, I'm in.

[Draegan]

The concept was neat, everything else about the game is just ass, from animations to controls.

[Ghambit]

Y'know, I've always wondered why MMO devs. dont take a more business-oriented approach and market their products cheaply at startup and THEN increase the price to retail after the dust has settled.  Imo they'd sell a lot more boxes if prices were reasonable to start.  Similar to how many electronics are sold, below retail at release to boost marketing through word-of-mouth.

The pricing on something like FE just spells to me that they're trying to moneygrub and run and have little faith in their own product.

[Malakili]

From everyone's impressions here, the game sounds interesting but not worth the investment. Maybe when the box goes down to the $20-30 range, I'll pick it up and give it a shot.

From my own experience, this is about what I am going to do.  The game is definitely worth keeping up with, because it is ALMOST something I want to play, but in its current state, I won't buy it.  Especially since I am buying CO anyway.

[Mrbloodworth]

Y'know, I've always wondered why MMO devs. dont take a more business-oriented approach and market their products cheaply at startup and THEN increase the price to retail after the dust has settled.  Imo they'd sell a lot more boxes if prices were reasonable to start.  Similar to how many electronics are sold, below retail at release to boost marketing through word-of-mouth.

The pricing on something like FE just spells to me that they're trying to moneygrub and run and have little faith in their own product.

First impressions and all that. Remember we are not talking about rational players, we are talking about MMO players that see beta and alphas as free time, then go off into the sunset claiming the game was incomplete.

[schild]

From my own experience, this is about what I am going to do.  The game is definitely worth keeping up with, because it is ALMOST something I want to play, but in its current state, I won't buy it.

That's reasonable, but...

Especially since I am buying CO anyway.

NOT SO MUCH.

[Malakili]

From my own experience, this is about what I am going to do.  The game is definitely worth keeping up with, because it is ALMOST something I want to play, but in its current state, I won't buy it.

That's reasonable, but...

Especially since I am buying CO anyway.

NOT SO MUCH.

Realistically, I'm going to spend most of my time in these games fighting.  I find CO combat fun, and FE combat tedious. 

[tazelbain]

IGNORE ME

[Surlyboi]

[UnSub]

Y'know, I've always wondered why MMO devs. dont take a more business-oriented approach and market their products cheaply at startup and THEN increase the price to retail after the dust has settled.  Imo they'd sell a lot more boxes if prices were reasonable to start.  Similar to how many electronics are sold, below retail at release to boost marketing through word-of-mouth.

The pricing on something like FE just spells to me that they're trying to moneygrub and run and have little faith in their own product.

Have you ever seen how people deal with price rises? Or paid any attention to how prices work in the field of electronic entertainment? Last I checked, neither MS nor Nintendo nor Apple nor Sony have raised the prices on their equipment after launch unless they release a new model (and then the older model is discounted). There might be discounts at launch for certain distributors, but early adopters get gorged because they are willing to be gorged.

You hit the early adopters for money because they are willing to pay it and you need that money back from development. Then you improve it and make it cheaper and it hits (hopefully) the mainstream in a better state.

Who cares if they'd sell more boxes if they are only getting $5-$6 a box profit as a one-off but the person only hangs around 1 month before telling all their friends not to play a buggy, incomplete game?

[Mrbloodworth]

I just played a bit on my old beta account. Yah know, they have made a good deal of progress.

[Ozzu]

I almost went ahead and bought the game a couple of nights ago, but decided to wait and see if there's even a decent amount of people playing after launch. I don't really want to play by myself. This game does lend itself to that pretty well though.

[Mrbloodworth]

I played some more... This game grows on you.

[Falconeer]

Performances are too bad on my more-than-powerful-enough-for-everything-else system. It pains me.

[rattran]

I really wanted to like it. But it ran bad, looked bad, and played bad.

[Mrbloodworth]

Really?

I played with everything almost max. I think I had the little sliders to about 85% or so.

I do have a higher tolerance for independent games than you guys do though, and I wont say its the most beautiful game ever.

[Falconeer]

No you don't have a higher tolerance than me for indie games, but you probably have a higher tolerance than me for low framespersecond. Or a way better rig.

Anyway, I just gave it another spin and it's so much a better game than a few weeks ago. Performances are still crappy for my FPS-addicted arse, and that's disheartening. I want to play this, but I can't let myself enjoy anything stutterish anymore *cries*

EDIT TO ADD: It's bad enough to have stuttering in plain old autoattack MMOs. But to stutter while I am aiming with a rifle, or every time I turn around to try and whack that sucker who's backstabbing me? SIGH!

[Ghambit]

I found the performance to be better at higher settings but with any type of bloom or shadow effects off/low.

[Mrbloodworth]

No you don't have a higher tolerance than me for indie games, but you probably have a higher tolerance than me for low framespersecond. Or a way better rig.

Anyway, I just gave it another spin and it's so much a better game than a few weeks ago. Performances are still crappy for my FPS-addicted arse, and that's disheartening. I want to play this, but I can't let myself enjoy anything stutterish anymore *cries*

I'm running a 4 core something or other, 4 gigs of ram and a 8800 gt with 512 I do think. Performance has improved greatly from the various times I played this. Shadows even.

[Lantyssa]

I never had stuttering, and performance did improve each time I went back.  Dunno what the problem is.

I'm running an Nvidia card, quad core.  Have you defragmented recently?  It has a lot of files which get updated each patch.

[PalmTrees]

I haven't had any bad framerate performance either. Occasional mob rubberbanding, not enough to annoy me though. I've pre-ordered but am putting the beta aside for now since there's gonna be a wipe and I don't want to repeat too much stuff come release.

[Lantyssa]

This is the last weekend for beta anyways.

[Falconeer]

I have dual core, not quad. Still, everything else runs velvety.
Card is nVidia 8800gtx.
So well, even though it's my fault, it's preventing me from buying.

[Ozzu]

From what I gather, this game uses all the cores you can throw at it. That's a pretty cool deal since a lot of games don't, but I don't have a quad core. It's very sad. 

[Mrbloodworth]

This game tickles my crafting, exploration, indi, SWG-PreCU, and twitch places, and has me excited about its PvP play.

I think this is possibly the best iteration of a FPS/RPG combat system hybrid I have ever come across, better than Tabula Rasa, better than ######## ######. I really enjoy that aim has only you to blame and not random roles. Despite it being a bit rough around the edges.


Crafting method = Brilliant.

[Lantyssa]

Honestly, the aim mode really sucks unless they've made some big tweaks recently.  But yes, it tickles those things for me, too.

[CaptainNapkin]

I agree about the aim mode, it's what caused me to stop logging in a few months ago. But based on MrBloodworth's comments and that it seems he's returned after being away for a while, I'm curious if they haven't made some improvements to it? I suppose I'll need to patch this and see for myself. Last time I even logged in was the last character wipe and that was just to snatch up my names and logged out after the tutorial/into thing.