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Topic: Buy Me a PC - now seeking new advice! (Read 51417 times)
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DeathInABottle
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My laptop's four years old and dying bit by bit. The DVD drive is dead, and the wireless card seems to have given out. I want to replace the thing, but I'd rather go for a desktop than a PC. I'd like to spend between $1000 and $1400, and I'm hoping to include a 22" monitor in that price - so between $700 and $1100 on the system itself, I guess. I don't know the first thing about building a machine, so I'm probably going to buy something from Dell or HP or what have you.
If I was smart, I'd be getting a machine too slow to run any kind of game (as I've got too much work to do), but what I'm really interested in is something that'll be able to run Diablo III, Spore, and assorted other 2009 games with ease. So: recommendations? What are the minimums that I'll have to get in terms of CPU speed, memory, graphics card, etc? Do I need quad core, or can I get by with just two?
Serious apologies for my complete ignorance; it's been years since I knew anything about hardware.
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Draegan
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If anything I'd recommend the new 4850's from ATI. Great graphics card for the money.
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Yegolev
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but what I'm really interested in is something that'll be able to run Diablo III, Spore, and assorted other 2009 games with ease.
Delay your upgrade until 2010.
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Ralence
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Currently there's a deal on HP Pavilion Elite m9300t series HERE Use coupon code DT3412 for the $400 off $1000 discount. You can customize it to your liking, but for example; HP m9300t # – Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (32-bit) # – Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Quad processor Q9450 (2.66GHz) # – FREE UPGRADE to 3GB DDR2-800MHz dual channel SDRAM from 2GB # – 256MB NVIDIA GeForce 9300, DVI-I, VGA adapter,HDMI # – No Modem # – 320GB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive # – LightScribe 16X max. DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive # – 15-in-1 memory card reader, 2 USB, 1394, video, audio # – ATSC-NTSC HD TV tuner with PVR, FM tuner, remote # – Integrated 7.1 channel sound w/front audio ports # – Norton Internet Security(TM) 2008 - 15 month # – Microsoft(R) Works 9.0 # - 10/100/1000 Mbps network interface (the Inspiron has only 100 Mbps) # – HP keyboard and HP optical mouse This setup comes to $999-$400 = $599+tax with free shipping. Definitely not a bad deal at all if you're not looking to build one yourself, and the best bang for your buck currently if you're planning on Dell/HP, you just need a monitor and you are off and running. With a budget of $1400, I'm sure there's SOME really nice monitors in the $900 range ;) HIH
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Currently there's a deal on HP Pavilion Elite m9300t series HERE Use coupon code DT3412 for the $400 off $1000 discount. You can customize it to your liking, but for example; HP m9300t # – Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (32-bit) # – Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Quad processor Q9450 (2.66GHz) # – FREE UPGRADE to 3GB DDR2-800MHz dual channel SDRAM from 2GB # – 256MB NVIDIA GeForce 9300, DVI-I, VGA adapter,HDMI # – No Modem # – 320GB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive # – LightScribe 16X max. DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive # – 15-in-1 memory card reader, 2 USB, 1394, video, audio # – ATSC-NTSC HD TV tuner with PVR, FM tuner, remote # – Integrated 7.1 channel sound w/front audio ports # – Norton Internet Security(TM) 2008 - 15 month # – Microsoft(R) Works 9.0 # - 10/100/1000 Mbps network interface (the Inspiron has only 100 Mbps) # – HP keyboard and HP optical mouse This setup comes to $999-$400 = $599+tax with free shipping. Definitely not a bad deal at all if you're not looking to build one yourself, and the best bang for your buck currently if you're planning on Dell/HP, you just need a monitor and you are off and running. With a budget of $1400, I'm sure there's SOME really nice monitors in the $900 range ;) HIH Need to set aside a couple hundred for a vid card upgrade too. At a guess, that 9300 isn't going to run anything.
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Trippy
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Need to set aside a couple hundred for a vid card upgrade too. At a guess, that 9300 isn't going to run anything.
It'll run WoW  (and CoH and Guild Wars and ...)
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Draegan
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Need to set aside a couple hundred for a vid card upgrade too. At a guess, that 9300 isn't going to run anything.
It'll run WoW  (and CoH and Guild Wars and ...) .. mine sweeper.
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I would really encourage you to try and hold on until the new Nehilum(sp?) chips are released. In the benchmarks at anandtech they are blowing everything out of the water. They are supposed to be released in November I believe.
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DeathInABottle
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Currently there's a deal on HP Pavilion Elite m9300t series HERE Use coupon code DT3412 for the $400 off $1000 discount. You can customize it to your liking, but for example; HP m9300t # – Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (32-bit) # – Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Quad processor Q9450 (2.66GHz) # – FREE UPGRADE to 3GB DDR2-800MHz dual channel SDRAM from 2GB # – 256MB NVIDIA GeForce 9300, DVI-I, VGA adapter,HDMI # – No Modem # – 320GB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive # – LightScribe 16X max. DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive # – 15-in-1 memory card reader, 2 USB, 1394, video, audio # – ATSC-NTSC HD TV tuner with PVR, FM tuner, remote # – Integrated 7.1 channel sound w/front audio ports # – Norton Internet Security(TM) 2008 - 15 month # – Microsoft(R) Works 9.0 # - 10/100/1000 Mbps network interface (the Inspiron has only 100 Mbps) # – HP keyboard and HP optical mouse This setup comes to $999-$400 = $599+tax with free shipping. Definitely not a bad deal at all if you're not looking to build one yourself, and the best bang for your buck currently if you're planning on Dell/HP, you just need a monitor and you are off and running. With a budget of $1400, I'm sure there's SOME really nice monitors in the $900 range ;) HIH Thanks for the tip - though I should've mentioned that I live in Canada, and it seems like that deal doesn't apply up north. Not sure if I can wait, Morfiend: using my roommate's computer while he's away during the day is fine for awhile, but I can see this getting old. The GeForce 9300 is too slow, okay; the 9500GS is only $50 more expensive, and has twice as much memory - does it run twice as fast? The 9800GT is $250 more with 1GB of memory - does the performance increase warrant the increase in cost? I guess I'm asking: what's the minimum I can get away with here?
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An 8800GT will run anything out extremely well, and you can get one for around $130 after rebate if you shop around. The stock coolers suck balls, though, so I'd reccomend getting an aftermarket cooler for it ASAP.
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Cyrrex
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An 8800GT will run anything out extremely well, and you can get one for around $130 after rebate if you shop around. The stock coolers suck balls, though, so I'd reccomend getting an aftermarket cooler for it ASAP.
What he said, though I'm not sure if replacing the stock cooler is necessary or not (I haven't, and no melty so far). As a good rule of thumb for Nvidia, if it isn't at least an x6xx series or higher, ignore it. Money out the window, in my opinion. And don't assume that the x6xx is better than the x8xx from the previous generation (i.e. 9600 better than 8800)...that is often not true. 8800 GTs are great cards. If the 9800s are coming down in price, then get one of those. 8600 and 9600 cards are decent, but probably not much of a value these days. Edit: Should have mentioned that with the MAJOR turbulence in the GPU market over th last few days and weeks, it may pay to wait and see. Prices are crashing for some cards, and ATI shouldn't be overlooked.
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« Last Edit: July 15, 2008, 10:36:49 AM by Cyrrex »
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"...maybe if you cleaned the piss out of the sunny d bottles under your desks and returned em, you could upgrade you vid cards, fucken lusers.." - Grunk
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Ralence
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I'll second the ATI route, I just picked up a Radeon 4850 512mb for $175 before the $30 Mail In Rebate. Performance wise, it's better than anything else remotely close to the price range from Nvidia.
So you could do that box with a 512mb 4850 for under $600. Considering the retail on the Q6600 is still in the $200 range, it's actually close to what you would pay for just the components retail, if not cheaper depending on if you need the kb/mouse/wireless lan/dvdr/hd etc.
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DeathInABottle
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I'll second the ATI route, I just picked up a Radeon 4850 512mb for $175 before the $30 Mail In Rebate. Performance wise, it's better than anything else remotely close to the price range from Nvidia.
So you could do that box with a 512mb 4850 for under $600. Considering the retail on the Q6600 is still in the $200 range, it's actually close to what you would pay for just the components retail, if not cheaper depending on if you need the kb/mouse/wireless lan/dvdr/hd etc.
Good to know! Now if only I had a residential address in the USA... Oh, and now I know that Fallout 3's coming out this fall, THAT'S the performance benchmark I'm shooting for. Doesn't help that they haven't announced system specs yet.
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Big Gulp
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Oh, and now I know that Fallout 3's coming out this fall, THAT'S the performance benchmark I'm shooting for. Doesn't help that they haven't announced system specs yet.
I'm thinking that we're going to be looking at Oblivion-like requirements, but slightly bumped up. Should be very accessible by today's hardware standards.
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Oh, and now I know that Fallout 3's coming out this fall, THAT'S the performance benchmark I'm shooting for. Doesn't help that they haven't announced system specs yet.
I'm thinking that we're going to be looking at Oblivion-like requirements, but slightly bumped up. Should be very accessible by today'stomorrow's hardware standards. I think you meant that...
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Big Gulp
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Oh, and now I know that Fallout 3's coming out this fall, THAT'S the performance benchmark I'm shooting for. Doesn't help that they haven't announced system specs yet.
I'm thinking that we're going to be looking at Oblivion-like requirements, but slightly bumped up. Should be very accessible by today'stomorrow's hardware standards. I think you meant that... Why? I played Oblivion quite easily on not the last video card I owned, but the one before that. I know they've enhanced the Oblivion engine, but not by that much.
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Jimbo
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Anyone bought from CyberPower? The have a pretty decent choice and a 3 year warranty. PC Gamer has given a pretty decent review on them too. It is a bit more, like I'm building my computer for about $1600, about the same from them would be $1800. Since I'm updating 2 computers that is $400 I saved by building, plus I got to pick the componets I am using. Allthough sometimes the thought of having it done and ready to go when it arrives is nice too...
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Tale
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An 8800GT will run anything out extremely well, and you can get one for around $130 after rebate if you shop around. The stock coolers suck balls, though, so I'd reccomend getting an aftermarket cooler for it ASAP.
I think an 8800GT (or GTS 512Mb) is a good choice. People will rave on about how the latest ATI is better, or one 8800 G-something is better than the other, but the 8800s were the price-performance sweet spot for a while and it's sensible for a non-builder/non-upgrader to choose proven technology that already has significant market penetration. If I were you, for that reason I'd avoid the new ATIs at the moment.
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rattran
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I wouldn't. If you don't trust ATI, at least go for a 9800gtx+ for the small amount more than the 8800gt(s)
But I'd go for the 4850 if you're looking at a card around $200, or the 4870 for $300
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Stormwaltz
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So, jumping in on this rather than starting a new thread.
My four year-old old PC has recently decided that my monitor doesn't exist after Windows loads. I suppose it believes that it's merely a figment of the BIOS' imagination. After an hour of connecting and reconnecting wires and starting and restarting the piece of shit, I've decided that I'm fucking DONE. I'll forego the lasik surgery I'd planned in favor of less frustration where I spend 6-8 hours a day.
I have $3000 in savings. I don't need a monitor - I have a great one just six months old (on those occasions the computer can find it). I don't need speakers, I have a THX 5.1 system that's already too big for the miniscule office space the wife and kid leave me. I might not even need a sound card, as my Audigy 2 ZX Platinum seems pretty solid. Whether it can work in a modern system is another question.
I'm an audiophile. I don't need or want wireless anything. The most graphics-intensive game I usually play is LotRO, though I'd like to try AoC. I'd prefer XP, but if it needs to be the bloated crap OS, so be it. Just so long as I'm actually seeing a return for the investment (fguring that 3GB RAM under XP ~= 4GB RAM under Vista). I prefer two drives, one for system stuff and a larger one as an MP3/doc/game archive, but I don't need RAID.
What's the best thing I can build? Advise me, o secret masters.
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« Last Edit: July 16, 2008, 05:27:51 PM by Stormwaltz »
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Ralence
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I just finished ordering one this week actually for a friend of mine (It's a side hobby, and you'd be amazed at how much I make from Ebay from the "old" computers people give me when I build them a new one)
I did;
SAPPHIRE 100242L Radeon HD 4850 512MB $159.99 OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) $94.99 ASUS P5K PRO LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard $104.99 Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail $185.99 SAMSUNG Black 22X 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD Burner - OEM $27.99 Maxtor L01F1000 1TB SATA HARD DRIVE KT $159.99 Antec BP550 Plus 550W ATX12V V2.2 Power Supply $49.99 Antec Nine Hundred ATX Ultimate Case $75
$858.93
Some of the parts were recycled, but that's a pretty good idea of what I ended up with, and those are current prices in the last month or so. There's definitely room for improvement, but I try to use the best available price/performance parts, and I'm currently a huge fan of the E8400. I also build about 5 systems per month, so I keep a close eye on pricing and hop on quantities when prices get to a sweet spot, and I can afford to be patient and buy multiples to avoid shipping whenever available.
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DeathInABottle
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I've been chatting with a friend, and he's volunteered to help me build one, so I'm leaning towards that option.
"Canada's Premiere Computer Store" is NCIX.com, apparently; have any of you used them? Are there better places to shop?
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Tale
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So, jumping in on this rather than starting a new thread.
My four year-old old PC has recently decided that my monitor doesn't exist after Windows loads. I suppose it believes that it's merely a figment of the BIOS' imagination. After an hour of connecting and reconnecting wires and starting and restarting the piece of shit, I've decided that I'm fucking DONE. I'll forego the lasik surgery I'd planned in favor of less frustration where I spend 6-8 hours a day. Can you load Windows in Safe Mode and tweak the Windows video settings? Press F8 as your PC boots - tap it or hold it down before the Windows splash screen - and select safe mode. If you can get into Windows this way, check the resolution and refresh rate. Sounds like your monitor is saying "do not want" to whatever settings Windows is trying to output. I might not even need a sound card, as my Audigy 2 ZX Platinum seems pretty solid. Whether it can work in a modern system is another question.
I'm an audiophile. I don't need or want wireless anything. As you're an audiophile with good speakers and gaming interests, consider an X-Fi. To my ears, X-Fi sound reproduction is far richer and more beautiful than older sound cards. I went from an Audigy 1 to an X-Fi ExtremeMusic and was surprised by how much better the sound was from the same speakers. I'm talking basic, unmodified music and movie playback on an X-Fi, without the card's "enhancements". The downside of an X-Fi is it has three different modes to switch between - gaming (to process the extra effects), entertainment (for music purity) and audio creation (for recording). The gaming sound output is also something to behold. But I have been known to forget to switch back to entertainment mode after gaming and wonder if I had imagined the quality. Last I heard, some people liked the Bluegears b-Enspirer better than the X-Fi. I've never heard one. What's the best thing I can build? Advise me, o secret masters. I haven't built for a while, but hardware prices are low so I've no idea how to spend US$3000 without a monitor unless you went nuts with high-end SLI (which you just don't need). Make sure you put some money into the motherboard so you have plenty of options, and choose a really nice case with awesome cooling. I'd probably go Vista 64 with 4 gigs RAM (as 2x 2Gb on a motherboard with 4 RAM slots), which gives you a path to upgrades.
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« Last Edit: July 17, 2008, 02:44:52 PM by Tale »
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DeathInABottle
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So I've done some shopping, and I've come up with what I think will be an okay, reasonably cheap build at ncix.com (which will ship to Canada). I'd love to hear comments, since I really don't know about compatibility issues.
Palit GeForce 8800GT Sonic 650MHZ 512MB - $154.99 AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Dual Core Processor - $129.57 Open Box Coolermaster Elite RC-330 ATX Blk Case - $40.57 OCZ Platinum XTC REV.2 PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 - $69.99 Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB SATA2 3GB/S 7200RPM 16MB Cache NCQ Hard Drive - $63.78 Open Box ASUS M2A-VM mATX AM2 AMD 690G DDR2 PCI-E16 PCI-E1 2PCI Video VGA DVI-D Sound Motherboard - $60.99 LG G-H20NS10 Black DVD+RW 20X8X16 DVD-RW 20X6X16 INT SATA OEM DVD Writer - $29.93 OCZ StealthXStream OCZ500SXS 500W ATX12V 24PIN Active PFC ATX Power Supply 120MM Fan Black - $61.99 Aopen KB-858 Windows Keyboard Black PS/2 - $10.59 OCZ X-750 Equalizer Laser Gaming Mouse - $29.99
...And I think I'll be getting Dell's UltraSharp 2208WFP 22 inch Widescreen Flat Panel LCD Monitor, which is on for $299.
A few of these are out-of-the-box deals, and several others have mail-in rebates, so the total cost will be around $900.
Am I missing anything? I bow to your collective wisdom.
Edit: Also, would you go Vista 32 or 64 for this? Would it be worth it to add 2GB of RAM and use 64?
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« Last Edit: July 21, 2008, 11:58:45 AM by DeathInABottle »
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Reg
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Are you going to order those parts and build it yourself? I checked out that site the other day when I first heard of it and noticed that they have a flat 50 dollar fee to build it and test it for you. For 50 bucks I can't see risking the kind of aggravation that I've seen described in threads around here.
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Totally have them build it for you. I have built all my machines since 1998 onwards, and for 50 bucks, I'd have 'em build it and test it there. Nothing like getting all the parts, start to build, and find you have a bad stick of ram or a bad PSU.
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Trippy
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So I've done some shopping, and I've come up with what I think will be an okay, reasonably cheap build at ncix.com (which will ship to Canada). I'd love to hear comments, since I really don't know about compatibility issues.
Is there any reason why you are going with AMD instead of Intel for the CPU?
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Stormwaltz
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Here's my first stab at pricing something out on NCIX.com. I'm pleased with the price, given that I expected to spend around $3K, and I indulged myself in many places. Most dear to my heart are, in order, the audio, storage capacity, and the best DDR2 RAM available... because what I read indicated that DDR3 isn't quite up to snuff yet.
Opinions?
Processor (CPU) AMD Phenom X4 9850 Black Edition Quad Core Processor Socket AM2 2.5GHZ 4MB Cache 125W Retail Box - $264.48 Motherboard ASUS M3A32-MVP Deluxe AMD 790FX AM2+ 4PCI-E16 CrossFireX 2PCI SATA2 RAID Sound GBLAN Motherboard - $214.99
DDR2 Memory (RAM) Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X2048-9136C5D 2GB 2X1GB PC2-9136 DDR2-1142 CL 5-5-5-15-2T 240PIN Dual Memory Kit - $575.39
Video Cards Radeon HD 4850 OEM 625MHZ 512MB GDDR3 1.986GHZ PCI-E Dual DVI-I - 2x $209.99 = $419.98
Computer Case LIAN-LI PC-A10A Silver Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Case 7X5.25 5X3.5INT No PS W/ Front USB 1394 Audio - $259.99 CPU Cooling Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 PWM AM2 S754 S939 S940 900-2200RPM 40CFM 4PIN Heatsink Fan - $27.42 Power Supply Coolermaster Real Power 750W ATX 12V V2.2 SLI Active PFC 80PLUS Power Supply 120MM Fan - $132.25
Warranty 1 Year Parts & 1 Years Labour Limited Warranty On System Components - $0.00 Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition OEM - $99.55 (I can get this 100% refunded using BioWare's productivity software allowance... the first time I've used it)
Hard Drive 1 Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 3.5IN 500GB SATA2 8.5MS 7200RPM 32MB Cache NCQ Hard Drive OEM - $89.00 Hard Drive 2 Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1000GB 1TB SATA2 7200RPM 32MB Cache NCQ Hard Drive OEM - $199.23 DVD Writer Samsung SH-S203N Black SATA DVD+RW 20X8X16 DVD-RW 20X6X16 DL18X/12X Lightscribe DVD Writer OEM W/ SW - $36.01
DVD-ROM ASUS 16X DVD-ROM Drive SATA Retail Box W/ Black & Beige Faceplates - $26.45 Floppy Sony Black 1.44MB 3.5IN Floppy Drive ( OEM ) - $10.50
Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Elite Pro PCI 24BIT/192KHZ Sound Card W/ Breakout Box & Remote - $282.72
Full assembly and testing of the system - $0.00
YOUR TOTAL All quoted prices are in CANADIAN DOLLARS $2,637.96
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« Last Edit: July 21, 2008, 07:38:01 PM by Stormwaltz »
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Stormwaltz
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Are you going to order those parts and build it yourself? I checked out that site the other day when I first heard of it and noticed that they have a flat 50 dollar fee to build it and test it for you. For 50 bucks I can't see risking the kind of aggravation that I've seen described in threads around here.
I discovered that if you spend more than $2000, you get the assembly and testing gratis.
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Trippy
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and the best DDR2 RAM available... because what I read indicated that DDR3 isn't quite up to snuff yet.
Are you planning on overclocking? The "best" RAM isn't necessarily the one with the highest bandwidth -- faster timings may be better for you depending.
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schild
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Why are you getting a Phenom?
Edit: Why do I see 2 people getting a Phenom?
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Stormwaltz
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Are you planning on overclocking? Honestly, I haven't decided. For everyday use I probably wouldn't need to, but it's nice to have that little bit extra available if I need it. What would you recommend? Schild - a Phenom with an X-number at the end is from the new " second batch." They don't have the "errata" problem.
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schild
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Fuck errata. In the last week did they suddenly become better than Quad Cores?
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Trippy
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Fuck errata. In the last week did they suddenly become better than Quad Cores?
Not for all out performance. I haven't done a recent price/performance comparison, though.
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