Metal Gear Solid 4/Online

[schild]

Boo ya. Aweeeeeeeeeeeesome.

Who's playing? In-game name: schild

Stoked. Waiting for bluetooth headset to finish charging.

[climbjtree]

Boo ya. Aweeeeeeeeeeeesome.

Who's playing? In-game name: schild

Stoked. Waiting for bluetooth headset to finish charging.

Wouldn't it be awwwwwwwwesome? Or perhaps aaaaaaawesome?

Edit:

Also, I meant to say that unless it's co-op it sounds like it would suck terribly.

[Moaner]

I think I'm going to pick it up just for the online crap, but I need to finish MGS3 before I start the single player.  PSN: Happy_Hedonist.

[photek]

Still haven't broken the seal of it yet, too busy working.  Will be there in a few hours, name : photekz 

[schild]

Also, I meant to say that unless it's co-op it sounds like it would suck terribly.

lolwut

You obviously don't know what MGO is. That's cool. Go look at it.

[schild]

Just putting this out there:

I'm ranked 123rd for Base Cap and 73rd for Capture. Like, among all the players. I don't know if it's seperated Japan or America. Anyway, yea, I enjoy the game a hell of a lot.

206 kills, 133 deaths. I'll have to fix that. But it tends to happen that way since the modes I play involve me not firing to not draw attention to myself. Out of 90 games, my team has won 58 of them. Out of 27 capture games, I've won 19 of them. Most of those I'm in first place. I pretty much rape face at capture.

Anyway, I should hit 20 hours this weekend. Comeon! I want folks to play with!

[Velorath]

Anyway, I should hit 20 hours this weekend. Comeon! I want folks to play with!

Even if I owned a PS3, you couldn't get me to pick up an MGS game.  Resistance 2 will be tempting on the other hand.

[schild]

Just so you know, I hated Metal Gear up until this revision. The controls actually make sense now.

[Velorath]

Just so you know, I hated Metal Gear up until this revision. The controls actually make sense now.

It wasn't the controls that bothered me in previous games so much as the huge focus on a largely nonsensical and convoluted story.  I could skip past all that I suppose, but that would be skipping over half the content of the game.

[schild]

Eh? haven't even played SP yet.

[Trippy]

Just so you know, I hated Metal Gear up until this revision. The controls actually make sense now.

It wasn't the controls that bothered me in previous games so much as the huge focus on a largely nonsensical and convoluted story.  I could skip past all that I suppose, but that would be skipping over half the content of the game.

What you didn't like the 20 minute cut scenes for every 5 minutes of actual gameplay?

[Velorath]

Just so you know, I hated Metal Gear up until this revision. The controls actually make sense now.

It wasn't the controls that bothered me in previous games so much as the huge focus on a largely nonsensical and convoluted story.  I could skip past all that I suppose, but that would be skipping over half the content of the game.

What you didn't like the 20 minute cut scenes for every 5 minutes of actual gameplay?

My tolerance for cut scenes in games is in constant decline.  All my years of playing JRPGs eventually caught up with me, and God of War is now just about the right ratio of story to action for me.  Also MGS's story makes no fucking sense and Kojima needs to ask someone what pacing is in regards to storytelling.

[schild]

Scratch that, after 2 hours, ranked 89 in Base.

I'm really quite goddamn good at this. Now to find a good bluetooth headset for online gaming.

With the coupons I have at Amazon, I think this is going to be it -

Etymotic etyBLU

[NiX]

Roomie just beat the SP mode. I might hop on the MP with his account, I'll check with him what his name is and give it to you.

[LK]

Did Metal Gear Solid 4 ship with Metal Gear Online?? I thought it was two separate products.  I'm purposely avoiding all MGS4 info to go in as blind as possible.

[schild]

Yes it did.

And ohmigod I hated MGS before this. But MGS4, masterpiece. Goddamn so good.

[schild]

GOTY.

[schild]

HAY.

YOU KNOW THAT FEELING YOU HAD WHEN YOU EXPERIENCED SS2 OR DX FOR THE FIRST TIME?

I CAN NEVER RELIVE MGS4 AGAIN. DO YOURSELVES A FAVOR. FOR REALS.

(no cutscenes you can't pause, no 45 minute cutscenes without a break, and no fights you can't pause (you can press select to pause them to pull up the controls menu)). Reviewers need to play a final build. That is all. Oh, right, obligatory, if you don't play this you're part of the problem.

[Margalis]

The reviews have been very generous.

45 minute cutscenes = epic fail in my book. The appeal of the entire series eludes me - average action game married to a terrible movie. I enjoy that Kojima's direction consists of zooming in on asses and camel-toe. He's a real artist.

[Megrim]

I wouldn't be so quick to write it off. I've not been a fan of Metal Gear as well, but the latest offering looks - at least in the gameplay department - to be quite fun. I don't know about the overtly melodramatic storylines, etc... but if it plays anything like Splinter Cell, i might be tempted to try it.

[schild]

There is nothing average about the action in the game. in face the first boss fight is as good, imo, as anything in GoW or SotC.

[Megrim]

Can you write a few paragraphs on the multi and single?

[schild]

Sure. I'll start with this though - play multiplayer a few times before playing single player. You'll be able to mow through the SP if you start in MP and it will be a pure joy.

The controls in both are the same. Compared to past MGS titles, they actually make sense. They're closer to Resident Evil 4 than anything else though. Snake is a fair bit faster than Leon as well. Basically, the controls come down to this - if you've played any previous Metal Gears, just assume this is a different game altogether. They're friendly to beginners and completely accessible within your first hour of play. Playing in Multiplayer simply makes you better equipped to take on what seemed to be a relatively good AI.

In SP, I'd recommend not even trying to sneak through your first time through the game. Just run and gun. The games are friendly to both methods and both styles of gameplay will net you different rewards at the end of the game in the form of achievements and I would assume, different items - which I think are given based on the achievements you get.

There are a few different ways to beat each boss, but each of the Beauty and the Beast bosses are fucking super unique. Also, PROTIP: Once the bosses uhmmm 'change,' draw the fights out as long as possible. Honestly, there's so many easter eggs for being a Patient Snake that I would almost be ruining the game if I went further. So I won't.

The storyline makes sense. Not only that, but it only slips into the weird and surreal about 2-3 times at most. And two of those are merely daytime soap shit they had to close up from previous games. The ending ties every question you've ever had about metal gear into a Bow, and there  are parts - had I not been wired on caffeine and thereby adrenaline, I probably would've shed a few tears.

It raises the bar for storyline, scripting in cutscenes using the actual engine (only ONE SCENE in the entire game has any CGI far as I can tell. ONE - out of nearly 3-4 hours of cutscenes, that's INCREDIBLE). The final cutscene is about an hour long, but you can pause during it and it's broken up into parts so you can take breaks. Reviewers need to go the fuck away. Also, stay through the credits... uhmmm... twice.

Anyway, it's a masterpiece of storytelling - Kojima has honed his craft perfectly, there are several very subtle homages to other games that are just wonderful if you notice them, the action is tight and boss design is impeccable (though one feels a little too homagy to a certain other PS3 exclusive), and uhmmm. Yea. It raises the fucking bar.

I'm not ashamed to admit it. Solid Snake is fucking rad. I was wrong for the last 10 years or so. It just happens to be that all those games sucked my balls and the controls were more obscure than mastering Civilization 1 at the age of 11.

Need anything else?

Oh, and I liked it as much as if not more than Portal.

EDIT: OH RIGHT MULTIPLAYER. Uhmm. It's multiplayer. You play a PMC (or Snake in one mode) and kill people or finish an objective. I happen to really like the tactics of all of it and the level design. Also, the pace is perfect for the amount of strategy it requires at high level play. Honestly, I'm really really fucking good. Unstoppably good. This morning I had cracked the top 50 in two modes and top thousand overall. So I might be untrustworthy as I took to it like a fish to water. The pace is not for everyone. SP is much, much faster (until you level up sprint to level 3). Oh, right. There are levels in multiplayer. Mostly for unlocking skills. I think the actual levels are a combination of K:D and it's so that you don't join games with levels 0-1 and such. It's mostly for seperation. The real leveling comes from getting GOOD at skills (which I think everyone at f13 likes, so yea, there's that).

In about 7 more hours of playtime on MGO, I'll have Bat Country made.

[Velorath]

Allowing people to pause during an hour long cutscene isn't a masterpiece of storytelling, Kojima honing his craft, raising the bar for storyline etc...

It's still a shining example of being completely clueless as to how stories should be integrated into an interactive medium.

[schild]

Try playing it thx. The cutscenes are seamless with the gameplay. A lot of them slip right through eachother. And some of them play out in another frame while you're playing. Really, you're off your rocker this time. Either play it or STFU. I don't think I've ever said that here. But it's just that fucking good.

[Megrim]

Cool, ta Schild.

[Margalis]

It raises the bar for storyline, scripting in cutscenes using the actual engine (only ONE SCENE in the entire game has any CGI far as I can tell. ONE - out of nearly 3-4 hours of cutscenes, that's INCREDIBLE). The final cutscene is about an hour long, but you can pause during it and it's broken up into parts so you can take breaks. Reviewers need to go the fuck away.

Come on dude, this is drooling fanboy review. You like it therefore every thing about it is teh best evar!

[schild]

It raises the bar for storyline, scripting in cutscenes using the actual engine (only ONE SCENE in the entire game has any CGI far as I can tell. ONE - out of nearly 3-4 hours of cutscenes, that's INCREDIBLE). The final cutscene is about an hour long, but you can pause during it and it's broken up into parts so you can take breaks. Reviewers need to go the fuck away.

Come on dude, this is drooling fanboy review. You like it therefore every thing about it is teh best evar!

Just play it. It's flabbergastingly good. I keep giving series another chance and one of them finally paid off in spades. How many games do you sit down to and not get up for 20 hours? I haven't done that in a single player game since Disgaea 2. And that was only because I had a deadline.

[Rasix]

Just play it.

You're making an overly optimistic assessment of the PS3 install base here.

[schild]

I don't see how. It's not like I'm asking Halotards to play Eve.

[Rasix]

Wut?   

Edit. Ohh, I meant size, not taste in games.

[schild]

Wut?   

Edit. Ohh, I meant size, not taste in games.

I assume that anyone posting on a gaming website knows that MGS4 is a PS3 exclusive title and they would not venture in here unless:

1. They have a PS3.
2. They are interested in a PS3.
3. They want to know how MGS4 is because, technically speaking, it's officially the third killer app on the system.

[NiX]

I've always hated MGS, but 4 has done something.. different. I don't know what it is, but it's just that great. The story isn't as convoluted as the others,  but is still pretty intense/big. This game could double as a movie with one cut scene coming in at around 20-30 minutes.

[Rasix]

Wut?   

Edit. Ohh, I meant size, not taste in games.

I assume that anyone posting on a gaming website knows that MGS4 is a PS3 exclusive title and they would not venture in here unless:

1. They have a PS3.
2. They are interested in a PS3.
3. They want to know how MGS4 is because, technically speaking, it's officially the third killer app on the system.

Yes, but with f13 there is always:

4. To give schild hell over any PS3 related issue. 

Not sure I could even give this a play when/if I get a PS3.  I mean, would someone that knows jack shit about Metal Gear Solid even manage to care about the plot? The cutscene length would bother me.  Long periods of inactivity in games has always bothered me and what made Lost Odyssey so easy to put down.

[Velorath]

Wut?   

Edit. Ohh, I meant size, not taste in games.

I assume that anyone posting on a gaming website knows that MGS4 is a PS3 exclusive title and they would not venture in here unless:

1. They have a PS3.
2. They are interested in a PS3.
3. They want to know how MGS4 is because, technically speaking, it's officially the third killer app on the system.

Yes, but with f13 there is always:

4. To give schild hell over any PS3 related issue. 

Not sure I could even give this a play when/if I get a PS3.  I mean, would someone that knows jack shit about Metal Gear Solid even manage to care about the plot? The cutscene length would bother me.  Long periods of inactivity in games has always bothered me and what made Lost Odyssey so easy to put down.

I came very close to picking up a PS3 recently due to the free $100 giftcard Walmart is offering with purchase.  Couldn't justify it though, with Uncharted still being the only exclusive I want at the moment and the release schedule is pretty barren until Little Big Planet and Resistance 2 at the end of the year.