Class Thread; Finalized classes.

[Pennilenko]

I make this thread with no ill will to the other thread what so ever.


I was just thinking that the game has had some time to shake out and everyone has tried out a bunch of classes. I wanted to make a thread about what people are playing currently, now that the class experimentation is largely out of the way.

So what is everyone playing now that they have had some experiences with the classes.

Ill start, after getting most of the classes to about 15ish, ive decided to have my go as a Demonologist and an Ranger. These classes are very fun for me specifically the ranger since 20ish or so and i learned that I really am a ranged ranger.

[Lum]

Necromonger, Harold of Xotli both post 20. Got a Conqueroo out in Connal's Valley and didn't like it, more due to lack of chrome than any percieved weakness. I'll prolly go back to the Necromonger once the omgpowerups go in.

[Pennilenko]

Necromonger, Harold of Xotli both post 20. Got a Conqueroo out in Connal's Valley and didn't like it, more due to lack of chrome than any percieved weakness. I'll prolly go back to the Necromonger once the omgpowerups go in.

Got a 22 necro waiting for those same powerups.




P.S. Sidenote, I am astounded by the leveling speeds in this game. It is good fun. I dont feel like im staring down this long boring straight highway. The end is in sight and i dont have to sell my soul and my freetime to get it.

[Engels]

Got both a Ranger and a Dark Templar post-30, which for me is the 'if you don't like it by now...' level, or at least seems to be by what I hear.

The ranger is a hero of wtfpwntage. I love her. The Dark Templar, not so much. I probably am not doing my Talents correctly, or something, but she's duller than dirt and doesn't have half the survivability of the ranger (!). Also, what Lum said. Plate class, bitches, give me some shiny plate, not this dishwater chainmail.

[palmer_eldritch]

Herald of Xotli (level 65). Lots of fun, good at killing multiple mobs with his AOE melee damage as long as nothing goes wrong. Fights are usually an amazing triumph, sometimes a very swift death.

[Falconeer]

Tempest of Set, level 77. PVE god mode. Everyone knows it and laugh about it. It's alos the chosen class to powerlevel whole guilds at beta speed.

That aside, I think it's a very versatile and interesting class to play, thanks to many different feats and spells. AOE is the keyword, plus dynamic healing, decent crowd control and good survivability, and a certain nasty inclination to nuking everything that moves. Too cool to be true, expect it to be seriously nerfed.

PROS: All.

CONS: It's the flavour of the month, so it's kinda lame to have one. And it will be nerfed, badly.

[schild]

Priest of Mitra.

[Morfiend]

Priest of Mitra.

What happened to your amazing Assassin?

Assassin was at the bottom of the list?

Hur? How? Explain yourself!

Anyway, I am play a HoX 33, Barb 24, Priest of Mitra 17 and Conq 17. Think I am going to stick with HoX as my main for now as its a pretty fun class, and once they fix all the broken feats it should be great. Having some trouble in PVP with it, but still fun.

Also, for anyone joining the game, I highly suggest joining the RP-PVP server, its great fun. Hardly any ganking, but the freedom is there to fight if you want. I am just bummed I wasted time on a PVE server to start with.

[Tale]

Got a Conqueroo out in Connal's Valley and didn't like it, more due to lack of chrome than any percieved weakness.

Conqueror is getting a bit chromier in the 30s, if you're comparing to the 20s leather look. Chainmail miniskirt ftw. Plate seems to happen with proper dungeon drops from 40.



Haven't got any alts yet. Not planning any. Just want to get something to 80 rather than repeat old content, so don't really care about finalised classes or whether Conqueror is even good or not.

[apocrypha]

Got Assassin to 24, Bear Shaman to 33, Priest of Mitra to 34 but have stuck with my Tempest of Set who is now 43 and by far the most fun, although the PoM was a close second. ToS is great fun, I like the spells, I like the healing, I like the effects. However I do refer to him as my Discodancer of Set because of his Lightning Strike animation...

The only class out of the ones I've played that I didn't like at all was the Assassin - very weak in comparison to the others and having a class so dependent on it being night was a pain in the arse.

[Brogarn]

I'm a cynic, so I have an easier time saying what I don't like than what I do. I have a better idea of what I won't be playing than what I will (Ranger, Necromancer, and Demonologist: Do not want!) I do, however, enjoy the Bear Shaman. I also like the Dark Templar, but get bored with it on occasion. The Assassin is also great fun, but I like to solo him more than group him, so am trying to stick with something I'd have more fun in a group with. I'm also an altaholic, so that makes my final decision even more difficult.

Seeing as how I've played  Tortage probably a dozen times, though, for now, the Bear Shaman will be my main. Conquerer pt. 2 (tried one, didn't like it at first, but see fun at later levels, so will try again at some point), Guardian (not sure on this one. Potentially boring), and Harold of Xolti (he's 16... I'm waiting on playing him... not sure what I'm waiting for... but I'm not real crazy about him atm) will all have to wait a bit.

So I guess that's a long way to go to say "Bear Shaman for now".

One final babbling comment, since I'm on a roll: I worry about the after 40 game and am hesitant on playing much further than that, so I might be back in alt land soon because of it.

[Slayerik]

ToS:

Pros: AoE ownage. Versatile class with solid healing and a bit of crowd control. Seems there are a few viable builds, a nice thing to see.

Cons: Lacks single target DPS. Sometimes I don't want to shoot everything around a target. I'm sick of the shocking fatality :) Does seem FotM so I wish I would have rolled a PoM or Bear Shaman now, but oh well.

[Draegan]

63 Assassin here.

Yawn.

I hear the level 70 feats are fun.  I'm waiting on the buffage.  If I didn't put any time into this character I would be rolling something else.

[Xeyi]

  Shaman, currently at level 51.

Pros: Pretty nice burst dps when using empowered renewal (+50% damage to your next hit), most mobs of equal level either die or nearly die in one combo.  Versatile class with fairly helpful group buffs that tend to proc on melee hits more than giving direct benefits.  Absolutely no down time whatsoever when specced for untamed regeneration.

Cons: Too many short duration buffs and debuffs with cooldowns, most of which don't do a whole lot and almost feel like it's a waste of time casting them (although some of these come from feats and so can be avoided).  Fairly rubbish sustained dps once cooldowns have been used, but it does feel like they got the balance just about right between burst and sustained dps in this area.  Getting to level 15 was a nightmare but enough's been said about that elsewhere.

[squirrel]

Ok so ToS - WTFBBQ! I like my ranger and barbarian but as I'm in no hurry to get to the content lite higher levels I thought I'd try a FOTM ToS.

"ZAP ZAP." <mad giggling> "ZAP ZAP". <mad giggling>

Girlfriend: What the fuck are you doing over there?

heh. Sure to be nerfed but that's some fun stuff.

[Threash]

57 conq here.  I think we fall right at the sweet spot between OP and gimped.  I can solo just fine, 2-3 mobs 2-3 levels higher than me are no problem.  I can tank pretty decently, but our dps leaves a bit to be desired but we make up for it with some nice buffs.

[murdoc]

57 conq here.  I think we fall right at the sweet spot between OP and gimped.  I can solo just fine, 2-3 mobs 2-3 levels higher than me are no problem.  I can tank pretty decently, but our dps leaves a bit to be desired but we make up for it with some nice buffs.

Good to read, my Conq is only 25, but so far I am really liking the class. Good survivability and decent damage. Like you said, kinda right in the middle. Of all the chars I've tried so far, easily the one that has died the least on me.

[rattran]

I played a Barbarian to 51. Good to 20, great to 40, then got progressively weaker and less fun to 51. Shelved him as every fight was either massive win or dead too fast.

Guardian was next, dull to 25, decent to 35, great to 45, amazing to 58.

I also started a Necro, but gave up and deleted him at 14.

Got a ToS to 20 as FotM, not bad.

[Nerf]

My PoM is 28 on the PvP server now, holy shit is this awesome.

Felt solid, slightly overpowered up through 25, when I put points into reviviication and became an unkillable god.  Only a couple more levels until my HoTs start proccing a AEDoT and my direct heal turns into a huge damage spell, I can't wait.

[Brogarn]

I was firmly against trying the Necro. I loathe, hate, and abhor pets in any game. They rarely do what you want and they're always getting you into trouble. I have no patience for them Unfortunately, I started reading through the Necro's spell list the other day and really liked what I saw there. This was brought on by today's patch notes that were leaked early. I also read through the feat list and saw that you can destroy your creations while making yourself more powerful. A fitting end to the little bastards, if you ask me. So, I rolled one up last night. He's 6. I rather like him already. Those disgusting pets are actually pretty cool in a nightmarish sort of way. I doubt the love will last though. But I'm definitely giving it a chance.

I can still say that I do not like the Ranger or Demonologist, though. I can also say that the Bear Shaman is still my main and favorite.

[Alkiera]

I can still say that I do not like the Ranger or Demonologist, though. I can also say that the Bear Shaman is still my main and favorite.

What didn't you like about the ranger?  I've played one to 22 or so, it was fairly smooth, linear power curve.  Bows admittedly aren't 'all that' at the lowest levels, until you get a few combos.  I've enjoyed mine.

[Pennilenko]

I can still say that I do not like the Ranger or Demonologist, though. I can also say that the Bear Shaman is still my main and favorite.

What didn't you like about the ranger?  I've played one to 22 or so, it was fairly smooth, linear power curve.  Bows admittedly aren't 'all that' at the lowest levels, until you get a few combos.  I've enjoyed mine.

I think the gist of why he didnt like a ranger is that there was no challenge in it for him?

[Brogarn]

Biggest reason was that being in first person shooting view made me feel claustrophobic. I couldn't stand it. And what made it worse was the lack of a single button to switch between first and third that I could flip to when I switched weapons because mobs were in my face and I wanted my "peripheral vision" back. I know someone wrote before that the scroll wheel works just fine for them and that's cool. It just doesn't for me.

I also ran into line of sight issues when shooting arrows. I'd shoot up a stair case or over bumpy terrain and my arrows would never hit the mark. That honestly only happened a couple of times, but it annoyed me in a way that was exacerbated by the fact that the class really didn't excite me. I found the abilities kind of "meh". When I read up on the Bear Shaman's list or, like I mentioned, the Necro's list, I'm all "woah... that is freakin cool sounding". Whereas on the ranger, I get none of that. I also find the class a bit one dimensional as a long range nuker and not much else. Before I get flamed by those who love the class, let me reiterate that this is completely opinion about the "feel" of a class which is different for everyone. Archer classes have never truly excited me and this just follows along with that.

[Alkiera]

Okay, I can buy that.  I never use first person for archery; I haven't noticed any advantage to it whatsoever.  I've read that 1st person archery is supposed to have a longer range, but never experienced that.  I shoot, but arrows seem to just kinda poof at my normal max range.  Normally I stay in 3rd, tab to target the enemy I want to shoot, and then open up with combos.  If I'm in 3rd person, it works, 1st person seems to involve a lot more missing, since you have to keep the crosshair on the moving target.

On the other hand, I have my draw distances set way out. (8800 GTS, 640 MB)  Was the point that in first person you could see enemies that might not have been drawn when in 3rd person?

[Brogarn]

I know that first person does extend range and not just for arrows, but throwing weapons too. I've used that a few times to pull mobs with my Bear Shaman (although he has a bow now). There's a pretty big range difference from what I can tell between the two.

[Morfiend]

I know that first person does extend range and not just for arrows, but throwing weapons too. I've used that a few times to pull mobs with my Bear Shaman (although he has a bow now). There's a pretty big range difference from what I can tell between the two.

What is this first person shooting thing?

[Engels]

Ya, my main's a ranger and I never ever use the FPS with crosshair view. Its utterly sucky. Is there some hidden advantage I should know about?

[Strazos]

Is it possible to do more damage with actual headshots?

Also, I imagine it would be usful in a messy PvP situation.

I myself have a 18 Assassin, and....I'm kind of on the fence about it. I think I've just played this sort of class so many times in past games that I may just be sick of the the playstyle.

Any suggestions on classes that are good, and don't look like they are heading for a nerf?

[Rasix]

Most priests will probably get hit with a nerf.  They've already started a bit on the bear shaman.  My two favorite classes are the bear shaman and Priest of Mitra.  The other finger wavers are still a bit weak, IMO.

Guardians already got nerfed a bit.  They're still probably fine.  Conquerors are pretty cool but more of a group class. 

[schild]

Priest of Mitra is gonna get nerfed on a skill I don't even use. Which is just radical.

[Wasted]

I hope they read how much fun people are having with the supposedly overpowered classes and do more buffs to balance than nerfs.

[schild]

I think there's a mental block somewhere high on that design team that likes kneejerk reactions to PVP Outrage and is a big fan of the Jackhammer Method of Design.

Whoever it is, I want to punch them.

[Velorath]

Ya, my main's a ranger and I never ever use the FPS with crosshair view. Its utterly sucky. Is there some hidden advantage I should know about?

Max range is supposedly farther with the FPS view.  Can't say I ever checked though.

[Falconeer]

I did and it works. You can pull from epic distance with first person archery.

[Brogarn]

I did and it works. You can pull from epic distance with first person archery.

I was also under the impression that it did more damage but have zero proof to back that up. But ya... epic distance indeed.

You know what my problem is? I mean, one of the many. Right now I'm thinking that maybe it's just me and I want to run home and try the Ranger again. I can't stand failure on my part. >.<

On an unrelated note, Necromancer >>> Demonologist as far as fun and flavor go. It's just so cool getting more pets as you kill stuff (which is just so weird for me to say. The last thing I ever thought I'd want is more pets). It really feels like you're gaining power as you go (Which would be the only reason I could see going down this evil, vile and disgusting path. Because seriously. This is some disgusting shit I'm doing.) I also like the randomness of the extra pets. It's like a bonus power up for being badass. I'm digging it.