Appgasm 2008 - (Apple WWDC) - Update for Darniaq - IPhone 3G thread

[Prospero]

I found out this morning the standard Fairplay DRM rule of "sync as many iPods as you want" applies to applications as well. My Monkey Ball copy synced up with my wife's phone and is totally playable.

[naum]

I signed up for the 60 day trial for Mobile Me, so far I'm really not impressed.  What's really great is that if you go to the official Apple Discussion forums everyone is bitching about it, apparently the 'push' is really just a timed sync.

What's the big difference (besides the me.com domain) from .mac? I saw the dog and pony show Jobs showed but its appeal seemed limited to corporate Exchange-y type implementations.

You know, I love my Macs, but I just never got the whole .mac/MobileMe deal? At least for what the cost is — google does IMAP and there are far cheaper hosting options. Apple fanboys love the service but even they acknowledge the syncing has never really been reliable.

It kills me — a few years back at startup company I worked for, office mates were all subscribers but used to bitch about how "you just don't get as much from .mac" — I (and the Linux guy) would just shrug and hold back comment…

[naum]

Europa Universalis coming to iPhone/iPod Touch
http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/07/15/e.universalis.on.iphone/

[Venkman]

I signed up for the 60 day trial for Mobile Me, so far I'm really not impressed.  What's really great is that if you go to the official Apple Discussion forums everyone is bitching about it, apparently the 'push' is really just a timed sync.

It kills me — a few years back at startup company I worked for, office mates were all subscribers but used to bitch about how "you just don't get as much from .mac" — I (and the Linux guy) would just shrug and hold back comment…

This. Back in the day, Mac users were perceived as never stepping outside of their iLife/.mac world except to play in Adobe land. Meanwhile, PC users are about as faithful to Microsoft products as, eh, too tired for a good analogy. Decades of searching for better/cheaper on a computer we either had to build ourselves or are constantly fighting anyway.

I'll take my Google Apps/Docs/storage over anything Apple has any day. And it's free. And it's now supported on my Touch. Between that and all the new apps (most of which were predictable, and the rest easily avoidable of soon-to-be-Darwin'd ex-Jailbreak freebies), totally worth the cost.

[photek]

Sitting on my iphone now, fairly suprised how awesome it is. Cannot get Pandora outside US it seems, that sucks.

[Tebonas]

Only thing still missing is the ability to sync the Podcasts directly on the Iphone. I see no reason for Apple to deny me that when I can even download Applications.

[Oban]

My iPhone died in Germany yesterday.  The phone can not see any networks even though my Motorola sees six.

I am not a happy camper.

Super bonus points for having customer care for international roamers that is only open from 9-7EST.

[Ookii]

Did you try restoring the software?

[Tebonas]

My Iphones data services died on me recently. Phone and SMS worked, everything else was borked. It recovered by setting the networks settings back to default, but I had a bit of a scare there.

[Oban]

Yeah, I deleted my network settings a few times and then did a fresh install.

Still did not work...

Skyped my provider when I finally found a stable 'net connection and found out that they had "hotlined" my account because of suspected fraud.  I said, "wtf?" and told them that I was traveling.  After ten minutes, my phone was working again.

Hooray for paranoid providers.

[Ookii]

So who else has a lovely 200 dollar phone bill? 

[Viin]

I decided to get a second monitor instead, maybe in a couple of months. The whole 'can't run 3rd party apps and answer the phone at the same time' thing pisses me off.

[Tebonas]

200 Dollars? There is no data flat for the thing in the US? I never managed to exceed my 3gig data limit.

[Ookii]

First month plus next month plus activation fee.

[Murgos]

First month plus next month plus activation fee.

Shrug.

[Ookii]

I figured someone else got their shiny iPhone on day 1 and had a similar bill, guess not!

[Engels]

Has anyone 'transitioned' from the original iPhone to the new one? Do you have to create a whole new account to use the 3g network rather than Edge? lazy posters like me want to know.

[Oban]

I figured someone else got their shiny iPhone on day 1 and had a similar bill, guess not!

My first bill was CAD112.

[schild]

My first bill was CAD112.

Hahahaha. Sounds like Ookii got fucked.

[Oban]

Oh, Ookill will have the last laugh.  My second one is going to be over three thousand.  I incurred two thousand one hundred dollars worth of roaming charges from just one night of drunken "let's find our houses on google maps" games.  It was kind of cool at the time since everyone at the table was at least twenty years older than me and they were really enjoying the iphone's interface. 

Two days later my provider shut off the phone because they had never seen someone use that much data in such a short period of time while roaming.  See above, doh.  Thank god I can expense the bill.

[Trippy]

At least you were explicitly using your phone. In the early days people were racking up thousands of dollars in data roaming charges traveling to foreign countries from the "push" email feature. I.e. they had their phone in "sleep" mode but the phone still checked for email on a regular basis.

[schild]

Oh, Ookill will have the last laugh.  My second one is going to be over three thousand.  I incurred two thousand one hundred dollars worth of roaming charges from just one night of drunken "let's find our houses on google maps" games.  It was kind of cool at the time since everyone at the table was at least twenty years older than me and they were really enjoying the iphone's interface. 

Two days later my provider shut off the phone because they had never seen someone use that much data in such a short period of time while roaming.  See above, doh.  Thank god I can expense the bill.

Wait, what. Roaming data fees? AT&T is bullshit.

[naum]

Oh, Ookill will have the last laugh.  My second one is going to be over three thousand.  I incurred two thousand one hundred dollars worth of roaming charges from just one night of drunken "let's find our houses on google maps" games.  It was kind of cool at the time since everyone at the table was at least twenty years older than me and they were really enjoying the iphone's interface. 

Two days later my provider shut off the phone because they had never seen someone use that much data in such a short period of time while roaming.  See above, doh.  Thank god I can expense the bill.

I've never been charged more than the monthly unlimited data plan.

I haven't been out of the country since I got the iPhone, though…

[Oban]

Never leave home.

[Murgos]

And I took the plunge.

It was rather nice while traveling the last week to just pop it out and check F13 or my fantasy football teams or directions to the stadium without having to worry about lugging my laptop around.

[Venkman]

Yea, F13 on Safari on the iPhone/Touch looks better than the mobile version of F13. Now, if someone were to go ahead and make a style formatted specifically for the iPhone... 

[schild]

I think trippy was looking into it, but I don't know the status of it. I'm sure someone has made an iphone SMF theme by now though.

[MrHat]

I'm getting one.  What should I get with it?  Do I need the extended warranty or am I fine with the man'f standard?  Software?  Can you still torrent on a mac?

Exciting!

[Prospero]

Applecare is awesome. I highly recommend it. My experience with Apple support has been very positive. UTorrent works on OS X I believe.

The only must have piece of software I can think of is VMWare Fusion. We have both Parallels and Fusion at work, and pretty much everyone agrees that Fusion is much faster. Otherwise, OS X comes with a pretty nice spread of software by default. Personally I like the Apple office suite iWork. It has fewer bells and whistles than MS Office, but I find the apps very pleasant to use.

Lots of folks like Adium as a chat client. I'm lazy and have stuck with iChat. You'll want Flip4Mac to watch wmv files. Oh, strangely enough, you should get Real Player. it has a lovely feature where it saves every Flash video that plays on your computer. You can then pick and choose which ones you want to keep.

[Sky]

I'll second Applecare.

Prospero, what do you think about boot camping into XP natively rather than running Fusion? I've got a couple boot campers here in the office that I love, but the supervisor is thinking about Fusion for his machine.

Also, fucking envy on the Hat. I would love to toss that in the center of my recording studio, maybe running a Digi002 off it...

[wirespeed]

uTorrent for the Mac is still coming soon, but there's a torrent app called 'Transmission' that's relatively lightweight and works great.

I just started using VMWare Fusion, and can't imagine why anyone would want to reboot their PC every time they wanted to make use of a Windows App.  Unless there's a technical reason for it like app incompatibility with VMWare, I wouldn't use BootCamp at all.

If you like/collect digital Comics at all, ComicBookLover is basically iTunes for your digital comics and works quite well.

[naum]

The only must have piece of software I can think of is VMWare Fusion. We have both Parallels and Fusion at work, and pretty much everyone agrees that Fusion is much faster. Otherwise, OS X comes with a pretty nice spread of software by default. Personally I like the Apple office suite iWork. It has fewer bells and whistles than MS Office, but I find the apps very pleasant to use.

Lots of folks like Adium as a chat client. I'm lazy and have stuck with iChat. You'll want Flip4Mac to watch wmv files. Oh, strangely enough, you should get Real Player. it has a lovely feature where it saves every Flash video that plays on your computer. You can then pick and choose which ones you want to keep.

Use Perian instead of Flip4Mac.

I have Adium but only reason I have it is because a friend was blocked from Skype at his work site.

Use Skim (free with extra note taking features) to read PDFs instead of Adobe or Preview (though Preview is OK for quick photo converting).

Firefox has an add-on that does the Flash DL & save routine.

Other Mac apps I use on daily basis: Skitch, Audacity (all platforms), TextMate, NetNewsWire (RSS Reader), Parallels (though I hear VMWare Fusion > Parallels these days…), Terminal…

[Prospero]

The thing I like about Fusion is you don't have to choose. It can run your Bootcamp install as a virtual machine. When you need to use a graphically intense app you can reboot into your Bootcamp install, but otherwise you can just use Fusion. XP runs plenty fast on Fusion on my Mac Pro. I do Windows development of a 2D visualization app and both Visual Studio and my app run plenty fast.

The other thing I like is it plays really well with Leopard. I have one space devoted to Windows. One key whack and I'm in full screen Windows. Unity is also pretty damn sweet, but my brain prefers the full context switch. Honestly, Fusion + BootCamp + OS X + Windows is motherfucking civilization.

[squirrel]

The thing I like about Fusion is you don't have to choose. It can run your Bootcamp install as a virtual machine. When you need to use a graphically intense app you can reboot into your Bootcamp install, but otherwise you can just use Fusion. XP runs plenty fast on Fusion on my Mac Pro. I do Windows development of a 2D visualization app and both Visual Studio and my app run plenty fast.

Parallel can use your Bootcamp install as the virtual machine as well. Has done for a while. That said I prefer Fusion.

[Sky]

XP runs plenty fast on Fusion on my Mac Pro.

Yah...we're talking mini here  Maybe an older macbook pro on a good day.