Appgasm 2008 - (Apple WWDC) - Update for Darniaq - IPhone 3G thread

[Oban]

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Black turtleneck and jeans, again!

[Oban]

New Sega game:

[Ookii]

iPhone is 200 dollars! 

[Viin]

What?!

[photek]

Are those prices for real ? Or are those prices retailers buy them for ? Looks cool, could use a replacement about that time.

[sigil]

199 for the 8 gig.

and boy am I glad I waited :)


That's a real price.

[photek]

You have got to be kidding me. How can it cost 199$? I'm buying the 16GB for sure if its 299$. After you add Norwegian socialist taxes it'll prolly land at around 700-800$ at least here. Gotta love Norway.

[MrHat]

No word on contract.  I won't do 2 year contracts unless there's plenty of 'get out' clauses.

[eldaec]

Eh? It's a telephone. $199 isn't cheap. You're doing it wrong. The phone company is supposed to give you a telephone.

[Murgos]

Eh? It's a telephone. $199 isn't cheap. You're doing it wrong. The phone company is supposed to give you a telephone.

Yeah, I remember those days.  I'd rather pay and get a telephone that does stuff.

Anyway, no 32 gig iPhone.  I'll be waiting for the X-Mas product line I guess.

[Ookii]

July 11th I shall have one.

[Nazrat]

Finally, it has fallen into the price range in which my wife doesn't yell at me.  ;)

[stray]

On a sidenote, all of the new mobile syncing they're doing with .mac (err..soon to be called "Me") is looking to be pretty cool. The syncing is already useful as it is.

Unfortunately, I signed one of those 2 year contracts elsewhere.

[Surlyboi]

  

[Ookii]

Yeah 'me' is really exchange for everyone, as long as it integrates with the Google stuff it'll be the bees knees.

[Prospero]

That's my big issue. If it ties into gmail/gcal, even if it is a bit kludgy, I'll be all over it. I'm sad the video conferencing was a baseless rumor, although the honest truth is I really don't think I'd use it all that often. The only other disappointment for me was the lack of support for A2DP. It's a music player dammit, it should support stereo audio streaming.

[stray]

 

I think you use that damn NDA emote more than anyone. 

[bhodi]

There are a couple of things I'd like, like bluetooth syncing for playing music with car stereo, the ability to send and recieve picture SMSes...

Some of the 3rd party stuff is really getting traction, they've finally got a good ebook reader on there, a variety of games, and some odd apps like a social networking thing to see nearby people you can then chat/talk with, and a neat little app that shows you nearby restaurants and reviews people have put in for them.

I'd like the damn loudspeaker's volume to be increased. I have a third party tone generator, and that's *loud* on maximum, but the music/audiobooks just aren't all that great, I practically have to hold the phone up to my ear to hear them.

[Trippy]

iPhone is 200 dollars! 

Apple relented on subsidies so they are allowing AT&T to do it though that means a forced two year contract *and* AT&T raised the data service by $10 a month from $20 to $30 so really after 2 years you end up paying more than the previous setup (i.e. you pay an extra $240 for the data connectivity).

[Soukyan]

Finally, it has fallen into the price range in which my wife doesn't yell at me.  ;)

That, built-in GPS, the SDK, and Exchange support is why Apple is going to exceed their sales goal of 10 million sold this year. That price point is the sweet spot. It was with the original iPods, and it still is.

[Trippy]

Finally, it has fallen into the price range in which my wife doesn't yell at me.  ;)

Just don't tell her it's actually costing you an extra $40 for the first 2 years and an extra $120 a year after that

[Nazrat]

Finally, it has fallen into the price range in which my wife doesn't yell at me.  ;)

Just don't tell her it's actually costing you an extra $40 for the first 2 years and an extra $120 a year after that

LOL.  You must not be married.  Of course, I won't tell her that.  ;)

[Oban]

"It will save us twenty dollars a month and you can play your music videos on it while you work out at the gym."

[MrHat]

Typical $100 extra for 1 year contract? I want to keep myself open for some Android/iPhone 3rd gen next year.

[Tebonas]

Well, I'm glad the new one isn't metal like mine. I can maintain the illusion I haven't been screwed by Apple and my own "Buy at once" impulses.

[Trippy]

There's still some metal. The back is now entirely plastic, presumably to save some weight but the buttons that are plastic on the current iPhone are metal on the new one and the front bezel is still metal.

[Tebonas]

I take the lie I can live with over your painful truth!

[eldaec]

Eh? It's a telephone. $199 isn't cheap. You're doing it wrong. The phone company is supposed to give you a telephone.

Yeah, I remember those days.  I'd rather pay and get a telephone that does stuff.

Anyway, no 32 gig iPhone.  I'll be waiting for the X-Mas product line I guess.

According to the shop I passed going into work today, it is in fact free on contract in the UK. (to be honest it isn't a huge surprise, only top end phones don't come free on contracts over here)



Though I'm intrigued to know what 'stuff' you want your phone to do other than make calls, send texts, and at stretch - access email and play mp3s?

[Viin]

Hmm is there any European companies that have unlimited roaming in the States with their plans? 

[Soukyan]

Eh? It's a telephone. $199 isn't cheap. You're doing it wrong. The phone company is supposed to give you a telephone.

Yeah, I remember those days.  I'd rather pay and get a telephone that does stuff.

Anyway, no 32 gig iPhone.  I'll be waiting for the X-Mas product line I guess.

According to the shop I passed going into work today, it is in fact free on contract in the UK. (to be honest it isn't a huge surprise, only top end phones don't come free on contracts over here)



Though I'm intrigued to know what 'stuff' you want your phone to do other than make calls, send texts, and at stretch - access email and play mp3s?

Well, it is technically in the "smart" phone category, so as with Blackberry and Treo, people want their phones to be a mobile computing platform.

[eldaec]

Ok, but 'mobile computing platform', what in practice, do you guys actually use such a thing for.

Other than calls, text, email, and maybe listen to mp3s?

[K9]

[Though I'm intrigued to know what 'stuff' you want your phone to do other than make calls, send texts, and at stretch - access email and play mp3s?

Me too.

[Krakrok]

Ok, but 'mobile computing platform', what in practice, do you guys actually use such a thing for.

I use my Sidekick LX for web browsing (f13, drudgereport, slashdot, my.yahoo, digg, directions, yellow pages, weather). It has a keyboard. It was only $100. I use it instead of a laptop. Hard on the eyes though.

[Prospero]

Here is what I already do or wish I could:

The basics:
* Full web access: I want to be able to post on/read my favorite sites, check train and bus times, and lookup random factoids. Also looking up product reviews in stores is darn handy. It's also handy for getting addresses and phone numbers
* Games: game more exciting than snake
* Location based queries: I want to be able to find the nearest sushi joint when I'm running around SF
* Scheduling/calendar
* Maps with real-time traffic information: GPS devices have this, but that relies on your car having a GPS device
* The ability to view pretty much any file that my computer can read.
* Portable photo album. I need to be able to inflict hundreds of baby photos on unsuspecting people
* Email
* Camera
* Address book
* Notebook
* Instant messaging via any network
* Ebook reader, web surfing mostly takes care of this, but I'd like to have my comic books on my mobile computer
* Music, TV, movies

Fancy stuff:
* Being able to take pictures of barcodes to get information on a product, add to a wish list, pretty much mobile delicious library
* Take a picture of a concert poster and have it add the info to my calendar
* Take a picture of a plant and have it identified. Insects too.( I've been gardening a lot recently )
* Google Earth/Virtual Earth integration that gives me interesting information about the area I'm in.

Edit: Additional feature: all of the above has to be pleasant to do, with a minimal amount of eye-killing and hand-killing. It's the fucking 21st century, our portable UIs should be as good as our desktop UIs. Not that that is a high bar.

[eldaec]

Web browsing, sat nav, and (at a stretch) games are the only things on that list you can do on a fancy phone but not a shit one.

Sat nav I can see the attraction, though a dedicated, easier to use device for your car is so cheap now that I suspect gps-phones have missed the window of opportunity for money making.

As for the rest, well, I think it shows why mobile operators are struggling. Looks like the industry really has become a commodity-utility.
(Half way down the list I was beginning to wonder if you were going to add ' I use it to store recipes! ')