Tier 2 City SS

[waylander]

We've upgraded our keep to Tier 2, and hopefully will have the full city upgraded by this time next week. The resources needed for Tier 3 are just insane though.

Anyway, here's a pick of my nice mountain view.

[ajax34i]

Heh, in RL you'd have flood issues, as well as the danger of avalanches, rock slides, mud slides taking out your city.

[rattran]

I'm sure they'll patch those right in.

We're safe though, I'm sure a castle built on a swamp will be JUST FINE

[Miasma]

The keep doesn't look very different.  I thought it would be an entirely different facade since it's made out of granite and such.  I'm a little disappointed, as far as I can tell all you got was another layer of logs on the top and a few more banners.

[Falconeer]

Among the many and many metagame things missing, the one I can't stop thinking all the time is the lack of guild banners, logos, emblems. So long for a guilds PvP game.
Oh wait, I am derailing. Thing is, the least I was expecting for was to have it on guild cities, while right now you can't even tell who owns what. Meh.

They imitated ShadowBane but fell short of the basics. Luckily enough, they didn't imitate SB's combat.

Anyway, gratz on that!

[Mrbloodworth]

Does it clear the grass and crap in the "fields" when you start placing buildings? (as in, inside the walls of the fort)

[Threash]

They imitated ShadowBane but fell short of the basics. Luckily enough, they didn't imitate SB's combat.

Huh? SB had an incredible combat system.

[Slayerik]

They imitated ShadowBane but fell short of the basics. Luckily enough, they didn't imitate SB's combat.

Huh? SB had an incredible combat system.

I like SB combat as much as the next guy, but incredible is going too far.

[Threash]

They imitated ShadowBane but fell short of the basics. Luckily enough, they didn't imitate SB's combat.

Huh? SB had an incredible combat system.

I like SB combat as much as the next guy, but incredible is going too far.

I was gonna go with "second best to aoc only"

[KallDrexx]

What was so good about SB's system (I really don't remember what SB's combat was like, it's been too long, I just remember a ton of buttons on my screen for my confessor)?

[Falconeer]

I *love* Shadowbane, everyone knows it. I STILL love it.
I just think AoC combat is the best thing happened to MMORPGs in a long time.

[Threash]

What was so good about SB's system (I really don't remember what SB's combat was like, it's been too long, I just remember a ton of buttons on my screen for my confessor)?

Its been a very long time since i played but i remember a lot of strategy and thought going into what powers you used and when.  Combat was based around powers that gave very short (5-8s) buffs/debuffs so there was a lot of countering and countercountering with your enemy, for example a warrior hits you with a weapon skill that temporarily lowered your armor making you take more dmg per hit, you counter with one that ups your dodge chance, so they hit you with something that lowers your defence making you easier to hit, so you hit them with pne that lowers their damage, by this time the first debuffs are already gone so the situation has already changed.  Basically rock/paper/scissors but instead of one class always being the scissors and another always being the paper there was ways to deal every class, even if some matchups were stacked one way or the other.  It wasn't as good/fun as AoC but it was the best implementation of the autoattack + special move system every other game has.

[schild]

Seriously? I know how many hours I've logged into the game. I know what I've gotten done. So I have to ask - and I've been pretty efficient with what I do - how poopy are your socks? I mean, neat and all, but .

[Lightstalker]

What was so good about SB's system (I really don't remember what SB's combat was like, it's been too long, I just remember a ton of buttons on my screen for my confessor)?

Its been a very long time since i played but i remember a lot of strategy and thought going into what powers you used and when.  Combat was based around powers that gave very short (5-8s) buffs/debuffs so there was a lot of countering and countercountering with your enemy, for example a warrior hits you with a weapon skill that temporarily lowered your armor making you take more dmg per hit, you counter with one that ups your dodge chance, so they hit you with something that lowers your defence making you easier to hit, so you hit them with pne that lowers their damage, by this time the first debuffs are already gone so the situation has already changed.  Basically rock/paper/scissors but instead of one class always being the scissors and another always being the paper there was ways to deal every class, even if some matchups were stacked one way or the other.  It wasn't as good/fun as AoC but it was the best implementation of the autoattack + special move system every other game has.

You were playing in Beta engaging in 1-2 person vs. 1-2 person encounters. 

Release Shadowbane was:

• /assist
• Massed Blaster Fire
• tab-repeat

and "everyone stand inside the character model of that huge Mino/HalfGiant so the opposition cannot click-target the squishies."

SB combat degenerated into stack warfare which wasn't very exciting or dynamic at all.  It was fun and all naming your entire guild's characters with variations of llllIIIIIlllll to frustrate the /target command (their sans serif font caused lower case L and upper case I to display the same).  It certainly didn't help the single group game that a stacked group of melee dps with thrown weapons could kill a character before the server notified the target (or his team) that they were under attack in the first place.

Not seeing the part where combat was incredible, perhaps the potential for character development in isolation was cool but it fell down at scale.

[Threash]

What was so good about SB's system (I really don't remember what SB's combat was like, it's been too long, I just remember a ton of buttons on my screen for my confessor)?

Its been a very long time since i played but i remember a lot of strategy and thought going into what powers you used and when.  Combat was based around powers that gave very short (5-8s) buffs/debuffs so there was a lot of countering and countercountering with your enemy, for example a warrior hits you with a weapon skill that temporarily lowered your armor making you take more dmg per hit, you counter with one that ups your dodge chance, so they hit you with something that lowers your defence making you easier to hit, so you hit them with pne that lowers their damage, by this time the first debuffs are already gone so the situation has already changed.  Basically rock/paper/scissors but instead of one class always being the scissors and another always being the paper there was ways to deal every class, even if some matchups were stacked one way or the other.  It wasn't as good/fun as AoC but it was the best implementation of the autoattack + special move system every other game has.

You were playing in Beta engaging in 1-2 person vs. 1-2 person encounters. 

Release Shadowbane was:

• /assist
• Massed Blaster Fire
• tab-repeat

and "everyone stand inside the character model of that huge Mino/HalfGiant so the opposition cannot click-target the squishies."

SB combat degenerated into stack warfare which wasn't very exciting or dynamic at all.  It was fun and all naming your entire guild's characters with variations of llllIIIIIlllll to frustrate the /target command (their sans serif font caused lower case L and upper case I to display the same).  It certainly didn't help the single group game that a stacked group of melee dps with thrown weapons could kill a character before the server notified the target (or his team) that they were under attack in the first place.

Not seeing the part where combat was incredible, perhaps the potential for character development in isolation was cool but it fell down at scale.

Not all combat was sieges, which was as you described.  There was plenty of small scale fighting to be had if you looked for it, at least while it still had some players.