Diablo III Wild Speculation and Rumor Mongering Abounds

[Malakili]

Diablo 3 will have a persistent economy. If the definition of MMO is an economy that stays active when you log out then it certainly qualifies.

Well, that is NOT the defintion of an MMO though. I don't remember anyone in here claiming that Diablo is an MMO, so I am a bit confused what the argument actually is.

Cala

FakeEdit: I apologise for my semi-troll. I just tried to be witty - I won't do that again.

Actually, I think that IS what the discussion is about.   Basically some people are saying Diablo is pretty MMO like to begin with.  Whether or not it should be considered a n MMO or not is kind of a waste to argue, but I think one of the defenses for it being online all the time anyway has been "well, hell, I only ever played this online to begin with"

[Paelos]

So we all admit it's a dumb argument right? We can move on? To either silence or people lording their beta invites over us?

[Malakili]

So we all admit it's a dumb argument right? We can move on? To either silence or people lording their beta invites over us?

Here's another little thing about the skill system.  Doesn't seem like new info for people who have been following, but here you go. http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/diablo-iiis-skill-system-explained-with-illustrations

[Hawkbit]

The streamlining of the skill system should make it much easier for them to add more class types as they launch expansions.  Looks like at this point you can edit which skills you want, which runes to affect those skills, and your gear.  It seems like a really manageable system for min/maxing in PvP, and again, should allow for pretty modular class additions. 

[Hawkbit]

Yeah, yeah... it's Kotaku.  Sue me. 

http://kotaku.com/5831680/diablo-iii-just-got-harder-than-hell-with-new-inferno-difficulty

[Malakili]

I wonder at which level you are supposed to beat all these?  They say by the end of normal you should have every ability, which means ~level 30, at only 50 levels total that means you'll only be gaining about 5-6 levels per difficulty through inferno if its spread evenly.  I might be something like you hit 50 at the end of Hell and Inferno is the level 50 "end game" or something. 

[Hawkbit]

60 is max.  Inferno is only available once at 60.  All monsters are at least 61 in Inferno. 

My guess:

1-30 Normal
31-45 Nightmare
46-60 Hell
60 Inferno

[Malakili]

60 is max.  Inferno is only available once at 60.  All monsters are at least 61 in Inferno. 

My guess:

1-30 Normal
31-45 Nightmare
46-60 Hell
60 Inferno

Ah ok. 

[Hawkbit]

It went on to say that some gear and runes will only be available in Inferno, so players able to farm that stuff have the potential for making a nice profit on the AH.  We'll see.

[waffel]

I'm kind of pissed off that even the thought of "Hmm, I could either keep this item or sell it for 5 bucks" will cross my mind. I don't know if I'm pissed at myself, or at Blizzard.

[MisterNoisy]

[Blizzard] 'is very, very serious about bringing the Diablo 3 experience to the console'.

This should be entertaining.  I wonder how they're going to reconcile the fairly restrictive nature of XBL with the RMT auction house.

[tazelbain]

I'm kind of pissed off that even the thought of "Hmm, I could either keep this item or sell it for 5 bucks" will cross my mind. I don't know if I'm pissed at myself, or at Blizzard.

I have no problem blaming the addict *and* the drug dealer.

[Paelos]

I'm going to sell it. There's no decision there.

[Selby]

This should be entertaining.

The original console version of Diablo I was shit, so hope they fix all the problems!

[Shrike]

The original PSX version of Diablo was fine. Christ, people.

It actually was better than the PC version in several ways. The only real issues with it were the 320x240 resolution and dropped animation frames. Annoying, sure, but it was a PSX.

[Rendakor]

The PSX version of Diablo is what turned me onto the series, and is largely responsible for getting me into PC gaming.

[Ingmar]

This should be entertaining.

The original console version of Diablo I was shit, so hope they fix all the problems!

They didn't get it right until D2, IMO. Diablo I was riddled with problems. It was at best a mediocre roguelike with cheat-ridden multiplayer. (And best if we forget all about the 3rd party expansion.)

[Teleku]

Heathen! Diablo 1 was glorious.  I think I've gone back and replayed it more than I have D2.

[Paelos]

Heathen! Diablo 1 was glorious.  I think I've gone back and replayed it more than I have D2.

The music was certainly better.

[Margalis]

I enjoyed D1 more than D2. I'm not sure if that's because D1 was better or if the formula was just stale by 2. One thing about 2 was the over world was pretty awful. Diablo 1 also had a sense of dread that was absent in 2.

[Tebonas]

Add me to those that preferred Diablo 1 over Diablo 2. I even found the graphics worse in two, but that could be because the standards have risen by then.

[Talpidae]

Yeah, it was.  Diablo one had an unbelievable 'look' for the time.  Diablo II pretty much just resused that graphic style after the world had moved on.  (Do I remember the 800 res being a patch or am I being unfair?)

Diablo 1 was also a much 'tighter' game.

[Margalis]

When Diablo 2 came out it was knocked for having low-res graphics, even for the time. I believe it was 800x600 though.

[Korachia]

Heathen! Diablo 1 was glorious.  I think I've gone back and replayed it more than I have D2.

The music was certainly better.

I agree. The haunting music in Diablo 1, like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2evIg-aYw8, was by and large greater at setting the tone and creating an atmosphere of dread and horror-to-come, than the Diablo 2 "themepark" music. I hope Diablo 3 will go back to its roots when it comes to the dark music and atmosphere.

[Selby]

I believe it was 800x600 though.

640x480 on release and the expansion allowed "upgrading" it to 800x600.  That resolution was fine for the first Diablo... but in 2000-2001 timeframe I was running dual 19" monitors and it was slightly jarring.

[Talpidae]

Aha.  I knew I wasn't mad !!

 

[Yegolev]

Yes, "640x480" was the "RMT" of Diablo II.

[proudft]

The time I had the most fun in Diablo the First was the evening when me & Ingmar elected to play it at my apartment while everyone else in our group went off to watch some shitty movie that we had no interest in. 

Since he hadn't played on that computer before, we had the crazy idea of just starting a new game, starting at the top, and proceeding through the dungeon in one shot to kill Diablo with whatever equipment we found along the way.   Turns out it was perfectly possible, and THAT was fun. 

Diablo 2 was much more amenable to repeated playings for me.  The varied environments probably helped.

[Fabricated]

It's kinda hard to play Diablo 2 anymore on a modern monitor. You can always use hardware scaling or monitor scaling and play at fullscreen, but then well, you're stuck playing fullscreen.

Or you play it windowed and kinda squint at it.

[Selby]

Or you play it windowed and kinda squint at it.

Stupid question: how do you get it to run windowed mode?

[Hawkbit]

R-click on the D2 shortcut or application in its root file.  Choose Properties.  In the Target window, add " -W" to the end of the command line.  That's exactly SPACE, then -, then W.  So your target box will look:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Diablo II\Diablo II.exe" -W

And yeah, D2 I love you, but you're hard to look at these days.

[Shrike]

It's an old game and it looks it. It still plays quite well, though the v1.11 thing is kinda  .

Hell, the game looked old when it came out. Act1 was essentially the same graphically as D1. It shapes up some from Act2 on and definately up a few notches in LoD, but it is what it is.

This is why so many of us are looking forward to D3. We need a new Diablo for the new pixel-thumping rigs we all own. Torchlight is OK, and I'm looking forward to TL2, but a new Diablo with all the goodness of the old games is what I"m really jonesing for. Here's hoping we get it...

[Talpidae]

It's been made clear already that I won't, which is a shame.

I'll put my cash towards Torchlight 2, since they're not yet run by complete fucking scumbags.

[Paelos]

I think we should start a D3 F13 Mutual Fund when this launches. Get all of us farming items under a common LLC and cut a 10% management fee to provide for the server costs.

Then we can split it amongst the people under dividends.

[Lantyssa]

I'd partake.