Diablo III Wild Speculation and Rumor Mongering Abounds

[Musashi]

A different spell animation/effect for every goddamn rune.  That's actually kind of impressive.

[Merusk]

The demon hunter stuff abilities look even more ridiculous in action. We're firing grenades around with double crossbows? While I like the rest of the classes, that one just sticks out as fantasy geek wankery.

I'll take extra wankery, please.

[kildorn]

The demon hunter was fun to play, because the abilities are neat on their face (shadow stepping around, lobbing delayed explosives into packs, etc), but the design is stupid. dual uzi crossbows and stiletto heels in mud, woo!

[Paelos]

It'll just be an easy marker for me as "I don't want to play with THAT guy."

[Ingmar]

Decision tree for what class I will play is really short. Does it summon a plague of demon frogs, yes/no?

[Paelos]

As per usual, I will be whirlwinding to victory.

[kildorn]

Decision tree for what class I will play is really short. Does it summon a plague of demon frogs, yes/no?

It still seems like there are a bunch of "+X damage/-X mana cost" runes, and one rune that just says "Slot me for Awesome."

Sad that they didn't include the one that summoned a GIANT BELL and kicked it through the enemy.

[Sjofn]

Yeah, I am wavering between the monk and the barbarian. I don't like the lady monk design very much, though, and SOMEONE makes faces when I play dudes.

But ultimately, as long as I get to be in melee range when things explode in a shower of blood, I will probably be pretty happy.

[Paelos]

Yeah, I am wavering between the monk and the barbarian. I don't like the lady monk design very much, though, and SOMEONE makes faces when I play dudes.

But ultimately, as long as I get to be in melee range when things explode in a shower of blood, I will probably be pretty happy.

I figured you'd be all over lady barbarian. 

[Malakili]

I change my mind about which class I'm going to try first about 3 times a day.  I think wizard is in last place, but thats about as much as I can decide for sure.

[Ironwood]

I think this system looks pretty fun all in all

Yeah, it kinda did. 

Can I just ask : A hyperlink IN a youtube video ?  Cool.  How do you do that ??

[cironian]

I think that's part of the annotation system.

[Sjofn]

Yeah, I am wavering between the monk and the barbarian. I don't like the lady monk design very much, though, and SOMEONE makes faces when I play dudes.

But ultimately, as long as I get to be in melee range when things explode in a shower of blood, I will probably be pretty happy.

I figured you'd be all over lady barbarian. 

She was indeed my knee-jerk intended, but the monk is really fun. 

The lady barbarian design pretty sweet. She is sporting the traditional furry barbarian panties, but she also looks like she could fuckin' wreck shit because she has GIANT MUSCLES, so it's awesome instead of annoying. Usually "lady barbarian" means some waif that could barely lift a salad fork in furry panties, which makes me sad.

[Lantyssa]

My image of a female barbarian is the Frenzied berserker pic.  She could rage me any day.  Rawr.

[Sjofn]

I never did get to play one of those. :(

[Amaron]

That video made me cry again when I saw the stupid dual wield crossbows.    I can't understand how they are going that route from an artistic perspective especially.   Thin bow = weak is going to be an almost universal response.   How the hell do they plan to make impressive looking high level weapons?   They need to give up their stupid idea and make them magic guns or something.

[Azuredream]

That video made me cry again when I saw the stupid dual wield crossbows.    I can't understand how they are going that route from an artistic perspective especially.   Thin bow = weak is going to be an almost universal response.   How the hell do they plan to make impressive looking high level weapons?   They need to give up their stupid idea and make them magic guns or something.

I don't get it. They look fine. Weren't people complaining 10 posts up that they were trying too hard to make demon hunters be badass?

[WindupAtheist]

Pissed that the game is about war between Heaven and Hell and I can't be a paladin. Oh but I can be a voodoo witch doctor. Great. Fits right in thematically.

[Amaron]

I don't get it. They look fine. Weren't people complaining 10 posts up that they were trying too hard to make demon hunters be badass?

No they were arguing they were trying to include too much fantasy geek wankery.   I actually also think they look fine for level 1 cross bows or whatever.    How are they going to make an epic level 100 version though?   It's like sling shots.   A sling shot is just flat out not cool enough to become somehow epic.

[WindupAtheist]

You make it shiny. Then you make it shiny with a fucking skull on it. Then you make it shiny with a fucking skull on it and a string made out of lightning. Then you make it shiny with a fucking skull on it and a string made out of lightning and the skull occasionally breathes fire and recites death metal lyrics. This shit isn't hard.

[Ironwood]

Yeah, what WUA said.  They've moved away from the fantasy we're used to direct to the fantasy that's liked these days.

Shit happens, you get old.  Don't worry about it.

[Amaron]

You guys forgot the most important thing though.   After they get done adding the skulls on the skulls they have to make everything BIGGER to keep the detail up.   Rogues run around dual wielding daggers you'd need to wield two handed IRL.   The guns are so big you probably couldn't even carry one on your back.

How are they going to do that with dual wield crossbows though?   They'll clip each other.

[Ironwood]

I'm going to go with 'Who Cares.'

[Draegan]

I'm going to go with 'Who Cares.'

Pretty much. 

Here's all I care about in a game like this:
Can I slaughter massive amounts of bad guys with them?
Can I turn my screen red with blood from my slain victims?
Do shinys drop on the ground for me to pick up?

[Amaron]

I'm going to go with 'Who Cares.'

Who cares that they'll clip or who cares that they won't look cool?  I'm pretty sure lots of people care about graphics style.   I guess people might not care if they clip though.

[Malakili]

I'm going to go with 'Who Cares.'

Who cares that they'll clip or who cares that they won't look cool?  I'm pretty sure lots of people care about graphics style.   I guess people might not care if they clip though.

I appreciate a good graphics style, but at the end of the day I will wear a clown suit if it has the best stats.  Even if I like to say differently, I'll always succumb in the end.

[MuffinMan]

I don't think you could even play video games if you care about clipping.

[Amaron]

I don't think you could even play video games if you care about clipping.

Well of course but it's a matter of degree in that respect.   If you're main attack animation looks physically IMPOSSIBLE because your crossbows would overlap across half their width then the artist is just going to choose to make the crossbows smaller.   Since they'll be smaller they'll have less detail.

Yes yes SO WHAT.   I guess my point is they chose to use dual wield crosswbows because it looks cooler but in the end it's going to make said crossbows look stupid so the whole idea is just plain dumb.  Because it's dumb the coolest class in the game also looks dumb.

[Shrike]

You make it shiny. Then you make it shiny with a fucking skull on it. Then you make it shiny with a fucking skull on it and a string made out of lightning. Then you make it shiny with a fucking skull on it and a string made out of lightning and the skull occasionally breathes fire and recites death metal lyrics. This shit isn't hard.

I could stand to hear a little more.

I'm pretty much down with the demon hunter. I was a big fan of the rogue in Diablo. I played the everliving whee out of amazons in Diablo 2. I'm pretty sure I'll be sticking true to form and getting my arbalest on in Diablo 3. The other classes don't really draw my attention as much. I"ve done bubbas. Didn't much care for them in D2. I've done necros (witchdoctor, whatever); didn't like it at all. The monk...eh...never played the Hellfire expansion and wasn't a huge fan of the assassin in D2. Might have a look, but not feeling it right now.

As for the xbow thing, yeah, it doesn't bother me particularly. I had to put up with goofy looking bows (diamond bow, I"m looking at you...) and little  pointy sticks in D2. Yep, not causing me any undue concern.

[Amaron]

I'm pretty sure I'll be sticking true to form and getting my arbalest on in Diablo 3.

The game doesn't have arbalest.   That's kind of what we were arguing about.

[Shrike]

Crossbow, arbalest, scorpion--I'm just exercising my vocabulary.

The fact is we really don't know what Blizzard is planning for the game in general or the demon hunter in partcular. Like I said, when I was on my javazons in pre-expansion D2, all I had were little pointy sticks. They didn't vary much and were quite disposable. I still had a lot of fun with those characters. When we got fancier stuff in LoD, well, it was nice, but didn't really affect how I felt about the class or how it played. Hell, my favorite toon in my D2 career had an electric neon baby-blue bow. I wasn't thrilled with that, but she rocked so it was all good in the end.

[Ratman_tf]

I'm going to go with 'Who Cares.'

Y'know. After seeing how shitty equpiment apperance got in WoW, I think I care. I don't mind outrageous and exaggerated gear, as long as it looks cool. ActiBlizz lately just can't seem to get that right, though.

http://d3in.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/diablo-3-fifth-character-class-unveiled-the-demon-hunter1.jpg

#1,2 and 3 are decent. #4 is knocking on stupid.

[Musashi]

I fail to understand how anything in this argument prevents me from leveling up dudes by blowing up hordes of monsters and taking their shiny.

[Hawkbit]

Yeah, that #3 armor should be the top end one.  Also, no paladins is fail.  I hope that's the first class we get in the xpacs. 

Either way, I suspect I'll be playing the hell out of this game. 

[Malakili]

Yeah, that 4th armor is too much.  I'm fine with stuff being ornate, but don't pile shit on just because you can.