Diablo III Wild Speculation and Rumor Mongering Abounds

[schild]

They don't give estimates on any of their real games.

[Prospero]

I don't want to want this. I want to hate it with every fiber of my being. But the *ding*, she calls to me. My index finger already hurts at the thought.

[photek]

God it looks awesome.
It's so oldschool it's new again.

Zing!

[Threash]

That first wave of mobs that climbed up from the depths was so fucking awesome.

[ahoythematey]

To go along with the party atmosphere still permeating, here's some assholery I managed to SS a while back, one of my personal favorites.

[Triforcer]

Am I the only one who doesn't care about this at all?  And why do jaded MMO cynics, who froth at the mouth at the mention of "grinding for loot," find this fascinating?  I am frightened and confused. 

[schild]

Am I the only one who doesn't care about this at all?  And why do jaded MMO cynics, who froth at the mouth at the mention of "grinding for loot," find this fascinating?  I am frightened and confused. 

Doing it wrong is always option D.

[eldaec]

Am I the only one who doesn't care about this at all?  And why do jaded MMO cynics, who froth at the mouth at the mention of "grinding for loot," find this fascinating?  I am frightened and confused. 

A decent portion of everyone here goes through the cycle for every mmog. You aren't the only one, the other ones are off posting pictures of overweight Darth Vaders or describing new Hellgate patches.

[WindupAtheist]

Am I the only one who doesn't care about this at all?

YES.

[Mosesandstick]

Personally I'm going to wait till the game comes out to see whether its worth playing. The whack whack whack ding ding ding style gameplay doesn't hold my interest so easily anymore. I don't need a carrot on a stick.

[Bzalthek]

The difference between grinding in an MMO and grinding in Diablo is relatively simple.

In an MMO, you run to a mob (or group of mobs) and then beat on them for a while, kill it, loot it, rest if necessary, and then run off to find another mob.  You continue this process until the piece of loot your are looking for, or you have managed to get enough experience to level.

In Diablo, you are swarmed with countless mobs and you cleave your way through them.  Blood and gold fly while loot flows from their bowls as if from some kind of grotesque pinata.  By the time you reach the other side, sometimes literally ragged from all the clicking and checking loot while killing and potting like a madman to stay alive, you find that you leveled in all that chaos and didn't really notice it.

[schild]

Small bag?

[schild]

THIS THREAD IS MINE!


THOUSAND POUNDER GLUTTONY INCARNATE.

[Etwynn]

The difference between grinding in an MMO and grinding in Diablo is relatively simple.

In an MMO, you run to a mob (or group of mobs) and then beat on them for a while, kill it, loot it, rest if necessary, and then run off to find another mob.  You continue this process until the piece of loot your are looking for, or you have managed to get enough experience to level.

In Diablo, you are swarmed with countless mobs and you cleave your way through them.  Blood and gold fly while loot flows from their bowls as if from some kind of grotesque pinata.  By the time you reach the other side, sometimes literally ragged from all the clicking and checking loot while killing and potting like a madman to stay alive, you find that you leveled in all that chaos and didn't really notice it.

So true.  But I would like to see less mouse click spamming in D3.

[schild]

So true.  But I would like to see less mouse click spamming in D3.

Get outta here with that shit. I need to buy some $19.99 razers from Woot next time they come up. Also, I CAN'T WAIT TO RUIN SOME MICE.

[Threash]

this thread makes me want to sing...


booom de yada boom de yada!

[Hutch]

I'm still looking for a damn mirror for the high-res gameplay vid since Blizzard's downloader doesn't work. At all.

You've got a problem. Blizzard created another must-have downloadable file, but their miserly fuck-you-in-the-goat-ass bittorrent scheme won't work for normal humans.

What can you do?

Gamershell

For all your game file mirror needs.

[Shrike]

Holy shit! I'm agog.

Just heard about this in a Kara raid in /gu. Man.

Holy shit.

[Falwell]

Inventory / equipment screen has to go. Hopefully it's just an early implementation.

Curious as to how they're gonna handle looting this time around. I liked the built in round robin system that was in Hellgate, but not being able to see the other guys drops in the party was ultra lame. Maybe make all loot visible and put an "Assigned To XXXXX" above or below the item name.

EDIT: Also, has anyone read any of the Diablo books? I'm assuming they are your typical video game novel cash-ins until I hear otherwise.

[Murgos]

Inventory / equipment screen has to go. Hopefully it's just an early implementation.

Hopefully, they take a page out of WoW's Design Spec and make the entire thing modable.

[Rasix]

I'm happy that the Diablo fans got their game.  My arm can't really take these kind of games, however.  I feel kind of silly about playing a game that makes me feel actual pain.

Still, looks pretty hot.

[schild]

I'm happy that the Diablo fans got their game.  My arm can't really take these kind of games, however.  I feel kind of silly about playing a game that makes me feel actual pain.

I wish diablo caused pain. I want a hardcore-hardcore-hardcore mode where it takes 3 clicks to attack, has the original diablo loot system where you can only hold like 12 things max, and there are no town portals. Also, nothing is worth any money. You get potions from drops and can use those god of war orbs. So rad.

[Triforcer]

I'm happy that the Diablo fans got their game.  My arm can't really take these kind of games, however.  I feel kind of silly about playing a game that makes me feel actual pain.

I wish diablo caused pain. I want a hardcore-hardcore-hardcore mode where it takes 3 clicks to attack, has the original diablo loot system where you can only hold like 12 things max, and there are no town portals. Also, nothing is worth any money. You get potions from drops and can use those god of war orbs. So rad.

Sony already made this game.  Its called Everquest: 1998-2000.

[schild]

Sony already made this game.  Its called Everquest: 1998-2000.

Aren't you the guy that doesn't like Diablo?

You're unfit to judge this. Just step back. Back. Further. Into Gen disc. There you go.

[lesion]

Inventory / equipment screen has to go. Hopefully it's just an early implementation.

Sort of related: I ran across this WoW interface screenshot from a while back.

[Sjofn]

For some reason, seeing the female barbarian got me all excited about Diablo 3. I'm apparently really easy to please.

[ahoythematey]

I'm happy that the Diablo fans got their game.  My arm can't really take these kind of games, however.  I feel kind of silly about playing a game that makes me feel actual pain.

I wish diablo caused pain. I want a hardcore-hardcore-hardcore mode where it takes 3 clicks to attack, has the original diablo loot system where you can only hold like 12 things max, and there are no town portals. Also, nothing is worth any money. You get potions from drops and can use those god of war orbs. So rad.

Sony already made this game.  Its called Everquest: 1998-2000.

EQ punished you for petty, wrong reasons.  Diablo punishes you for all the right reasons.  It's sort of like PoW torture versus sado-masochism.

[FatuousTwat]

I'm gonna have to change my avatard for this as well!

[Azazel]

Am I the only one who doesn't care about this at all?  And why do jaded MMO cynics, who froth at the mouth at the mention of "grinding for loot," find this fascinating?  I am frightened and confused. 

I'll be into the game. When it comes out in a year or more. I'm sure it'll be fun. I might even finish it, this time round (finished D2, but never finished D2:LoD)

I don't get the rabid masturbation going on in this thread, though.

[ahoythematey]

Sounds like you played single-player mostly, which could possibly be tiring beyond the first one or two playthroughs, for some people.  Diablo2 was pretty much the closest thing to raptor-jesus as far as multiplayer rpgs go.  I would have paid a $5/month fee for the game back in the day and I meant it back then too.

Or maybe Australians don't like fun? It's a crazy world, who knows!

[Margalis]

There was no way to change the camera significantly and let you keep the same gameplay. I've been thinking about his topic a lot lately.

With the camera they have you can have enemies surrounding the opponent, and you can have enemies waiting for the player offscreen. If you moved to say a first person view like Hellgate surrounding the player with enemies is kind of sucky as they can only see in one direction, and because the player can see very far they can either see the enemies from very far away or you have to purposely design your levels to have lots of obstructions and corners. You can't have something like a long corridor with enemies at the end very effectively, because you can see them immediately.

Also by rendering things at the angle and distance they are it saves them some artwork headaches. It sounded like they said each class will have their own armor looks - lot's of work. But if you render from that angle the armor only has to look good from fairly far away and doesn't need to be too detailed. Same with the enemies. In an FPS game you could get right up in their face so they have to look good from all angles and up close.

[Trippy]

If mod tools are released, though, you'll presumably be able to position the camera wherever like you can with WCIII mods. It's also possible the in-game engine cutscenes will zoom in and out too.

[photek]

There was no way to change the camera significantly and let you keep the same gameplay. I've been thinking about his topic a lot lately.

With the camera they have you can have enemies surrounding the opponent, and you can have enemies waiting for the player offscreen. If you moved to say a first person view like Hellgate surrounding the player with enemies is kind of sucky as they can only see in one direction, and because the player can see very far they can either see the enemies from very far away or you have to purposely design your levels to have lots of obstructions and corners. You can't have something like a long corridor with enemies at the end very effectively, because you can see them immediately.

Correct and agreed. Even when I play any MMO I zoom out to the max, usually try to script even further camdistance if possible. It gives you a great overview over the battlefield, your foes and allies and it grants a huge tactical edge.

[Azazel]

Sounds like you played single-player mostly, which could possibly be tiring beyond the first one or two playthroughs, for some people.  Diablo2 was pretty much the closest thing to raptor-jesus as far as multiplayer rpgs go.  I would have paid a $5/month fee for the game back in the day and I meant it back then too.

Or maybe Australians don't like fun? It's a crazy world, who knows!

Actually, I played online. In a mix of SP and with 4 other friends. What fucked it for me was when you took a break for too long (90 days?), b.net nuked your characters. After having that happen a couple of times, and forgetting a password, I went down to fuck-it town. Also, I was playing Everquest at the time with 3 of those 4 people, as well as a few other RL friends.

More recently, I was going to play it with my wife on our computers with the 2 copies I have here. But it looks too much like arse now.


Like I said. I'll undoubtedly buy it, I'm sure I'll enjoy it, but forgive me for not spending all my time now masturbating to the thought of playing it in a year or two.

[Lum]

"Nobody ever listens to me!" -- Deckard Cain