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Reply #2765 on: November 20, 2011, 07:07:15 PM

I actually played in a group this time around. We literally blew through the entire "beta" in something like 45 minutes? Demon Hunters feel gimpy as hell. spending half the fight cartwheeling around so you don't get hit and die isn't that fun. When in a group it was better since I put out very fast damage across all enemies but yech at soloing one.

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Reply #2766 on: November 21, 2011, 08:43:47 AM

Well... that isn't an issue in III is it now?

Oh nice, I didn't realize that this has been changed for 3.
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Reply #2767 on: November 21, 2011, 08:56:25 AM

Well... that isn't an issue in III is it now?

Oh nice, I didn't realize that this has been changed for 3.

Neither did I.   From the wiki -
Looting
Instead of the same loot dropping for all players when a monster dies (like in Diablo II), the monster drops loot for each player that only he or she can see and pickup. If a player picks up the item and drops it back on the ground, any other player can see it and pick it up.
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Reply #2768 on: November 21, 2011, 10:10:26 AM

I predict a bug with having inventory full and trying to loot your private loot.
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Reply #2769 on: November 21, 2011, 11:29:13 AM

Overflow bugs are so "no really, it's only 640x480" ago.

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Reply #2770 on: November 21, 2011, 01:33:50 PM

Feel free to compare us to the people at Kotaku any day.

My bad. I didn't mean to insult any actual journalists here! It's been so long since I last saw a review or actual journalistic piece (not counting forum posts) from someone I could identify as an F13 author that I'd honestly forgotten there was such a thing as an F13 author and thought the reference was to the forum rabble.


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Reply #2771 on: November 21, 2011, 01:47:56 PM

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Reply #2772 on: November 21, 2011, 02:10:02 PM

Feel free to compare us to the people at Kotaku any day.

My bad. I didn't mean to insult any actual journalists here! It's been so long since I last saw a review or actual journalistic piece (not counting forum posts) from someone I could identify as an F13 author that I'd honestly forgotten there was such a thing as an F13 author and thought the reference was to the forum rabble.

Most of the stuff we review goes in the But is it Fun? Section.

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Reply #2773 on: November 21, 2011, 09:10:58 PM

I'm doing my happy dance, and I'm sad, since I won't be able to play until after the turkey murder holiday.
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Reply #2774 on: November 22, 2011, 05:32:35 AM

Feel free to compare us to the people at Kotaku any day.

My bad. I didn't mean to insult any actual journalists here! It's been so long since I last saw a review or actual journalistic piece (not counting forum posts) from someone I could identify as an F13 author that I'd honestly forgotten there was such a thing as an F13 author and thought the reference was to the forum rabble.

I am fine with this.  I haven't displayed any journalistic integrity in a long time, but mostly I was insinuating that we have not shown a lack of integrity during this time, either.  I might write more but the pay is shit.

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Reply #2775 on: November 22, 2011, 06:04:50 AM

I am fine with this.  I haven't displayed any journalistic integrity in a long time, but mostly I was insinuating that we have not shown a lack of integrity during this time, either.  I might write more but the pay is shit.

Just imagine how bad it's going to be now that Schild is a hobo.

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Reply #2776 on: November 22, 2011, 07:13:15 AM

While I am definitely upset about his job situation, I'm also hoping we get some tasty content as a by-product of his misfortune.  Really, though, I'm expecting him to spend his hours looking for work rather than dicking around on the intertubes.

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Reply #2777 on: November 22, 2011, 08:13:38 AM

One can only spend so many hours looking for work in this economy.  The problem with looking for work is that there seems to be a great magnitude fewer opportunities out there these days.

After the initial first few weeks of getting one's ducks all in a row, what does one do past the 2-3 hours per day of looking?

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Reply #2778 on: November 22, 2011, 08:19:27 AM

Porn.

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Reply #2779 on: November 22, 2011, 09:02:47 AM




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Reply #2780 on: November 22, 2011, 09:09:07 AM

My backlog of games.  But since I have a wife, all bets are off.

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Reply #2781 on: November 22, 2011, 11:55:22 AM

My backlog of games.  But since I have a wife, all bets are off.

Isn't that the fucking truth? I should have interviewed her about gaming and horror movies BEFORE the ring.

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Reply #2782 on: November 22, 2011, 12:58:21 PM

My backlog of games.  But since I have a wife, all bets are off.

Isn't that the fucking truth? I should have interviewed her about gaming and horror movies BEFORE the ring.

It was several years into the marriage before my wife told be she hates zombies.  If someone is talking about how nerdy they are, this should fall under "full disclosure".

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Reply #2783 on: November 22, 2011, 03:51:16 PM

My backlog of games.  But since I have a wife, all bets are off.

Isn't that the fucking truth? I should have interviewed her about gaming and horror movies BEFORE the ring.

Me and you both brother!  Ohhhhh, I see.
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Reply #2784 on: November 22, 2011, 05:21:16 PM

After the initial first few weeks of getting one's ducks all in a row, what does one do past the 2-3 hours per day of looking?
My ex wife used to get furious with me because I was only job hunting for 2 hours a day.  After the first 2 weeks, it was soul crushing hunting for jobs when NOTHING new was being posted and no one was calling me back.  I ended up touring the wrecking yards and selling car parts to people on the internet to make side money.
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Reply #2785 on: November 23, 2011, 05:10:40 AM

3 years later, going over the first 15 pages of this thread is just  why so serious?
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Reply #2786 on: November 23, 2011, 05:29:32 AM

I got laid off for like three weeks at my previous job due to budget stuff, and I thought it was going to be awesome at first since I knew 100% I was going to be able to come back and I had enough money to be fine during that period of time. I got oddly depressed about a week in.

As for D3, so far I've played a Monk, Barbarian, Demon Hunter, and Wizard.

Monk: Fun, but has several abilities of questionable usefulness. Two of the three-hit spirit builders need buffed IMO; one does a small AOE on the third hit, the other hits through mobs in a line every hit. The problem is they don't do more damage, or at least noticeably more damage than the attack you get later that hits everything in front of you -every- hit and ends with a big hit that slows all enemies around you. Also, the healing nova thing is literally useless outside of a group right now but I think Blizzard was talking about how they're thinking of changing back to where it did both healing AND damage.

Demon Hunter: Too reliant on being far away when soloing IMO. When you finally smith a bunch of good level-appropriate armor and weapons you can kill most stuff before it ever reaches you but I never liked kiting in D2. You get an early hatred-building attack that makes you auto backflip if the enemy you shoot is too close; this is awesome but you flip in the opposite direction of where you're facing at that moment, which often leads to you flipping into walls/sticky geometry/etc uselessly. Lots of fun/different skills.

Barbarian: It's a fucking barbarian and painfully obvious that this class was worked on more extensively than the others. You can shout to do more damage or make other things do less damage, you can stun, leap on things, and there's a variety of ways to hit things. Bash kinda seems pointless after cleave since it doesn't stagger/stun mobs in exchange for only hitting a single one, but that's probably a rune thing.

Wizard: You feel like a fucking kitten until you get a few skills and some gear, then after you get your nice smithed gear...whooo. Arcane Orb with decent gear obliterates everything. It feels weird playing a Wizard since you can literally run out of the resources you need to use special abilities.
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Reply #2787 on: November 23, 2011, 05:43:38 AM

Witch doctors are awesome.  I am going to play the crap out of this game.  That is all.
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Reply #2788 on: November 23, 2011, 07:26:54 AM

Barbarian makes me happy in the pants.

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Reply #2789 on: November 23, 2011, 08:13:14 AM

I was planning on playing Monk and ignoring Barbarian, but after playing the beta, Barb is simply so much more fun.  Something about Monk just seems...meh.  Barb is fucking perfect.  Animations, sound effects, all spot on and viscerally satisfying.

Demon Hunter is probably my first character though:  Traps and Mobility turn me on.
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Reply #2790 on: November 23, 2011, 10:48:31 AM

Monk is fun but there's a lot of redundancy in their abilities and some stuff is of real questionable use.

For example, you'll have access to four 3-hit melee abilities in the demo so far:

First one: This is what you start with. It's fairly quick and the third hit generates a pretty small aoe explosion at the hit. It does shock damage.
Second one: This is the second. You do another 3-hit melee combo, but your strikes generate a very narrow shockwave that extends pretty far from your character. So basically you can punch THROUGH lines of enemies.
Third one: You do 3 wide swings that hit everything in roughly a 180 degree arc in front of you. The third swing does a 360 degree AOE hit that slows the attack speed of everything it hits.
Fourth one: It's similar to the first one in speed/range, but instead of explosions on the third hit, you inflict a bleed DOT with every hit. Anything that dies while under the effect of the DOT detonates for some % of its maximum life.

So far, all of these do about the same damage.

...which one would you always use? Yeah.

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Reply #2791 on: November 23, 2011, 03:20:37 PM

Third one for boss fights and fourth one for everything else?
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Reply #2792 on: November 23, 2011, 03:30:05 PM

No no.

THE ONE THAT MAKES SHIT EXPLODE, ALWAYS.

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Reply #2793 on: November 23, 2011, 04:22:55 PM

Basically the third one is better than all of them. The bleed isn't that impressive on enemies tough enough to not die from a single series of hits from the explody thing. You can basically select the third one and use that only forever.

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Reply #2794 on: November 23, 2011, 05:41:29 PM

The one that makes shit explode doesn't do so immediately. Waves of mobs are cleared faster with the third AOE ability than the others.

That may change at higher difficulties but that one move and other support to enhance damage are are all you need for Normal.

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Reply #2795 on: November 23, 2011, 06:05:20 PM

Basically the third one is better than all of them. The bleed isn't that impressive on enemies tough enough to not die from a single series of hits from the explody thing. You can basically select the third one and use that only forever.

Yes but nothing explodes.

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Reply #2796 on: November 24, 2011, 04:27:28 AM

What Diablo really needs is the Bloody Mess trait from Fallout.
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Reply #2797 on: November 29, 2011, 10:59:03 AM

We have people in the Diablo beta and its been five days without a post in this thread!  ACK!
Play less, write more!  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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Reply #2798 on: November 29, 2011, 11:05:23 AM

It's more of a very, very limited demo than a beta.
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Reply #2799 on: November 29, 2011, 11:18:12 AM

We have people in the Diablo beta and its been five days without a post in this thread!  ACK!
Play less, write more!  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

I've played all the classes through the entire beta, and Barbarian twice through.  Its an hour long per go through, maybe a bit longer the first time when you actually listen to the voice overs.  I'm happy to answer any questions you have, but other than "its good" there isn't really much to say actually.  If you want I can do a write up of some of the mechanics that might not be fully described in official blizzard stuff so far.
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