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[Hoax]

Great and I'm the idiot who was supporting him before all this happened...   

Tbh I dont trust GS to this day to put the "good of the game" first, or even have a great perspective of what that might mean.  But Jade proved here and continues to prove a complete inability to let an issue stand on its own and not make it be either the issue versus jade or jade + the issue versus everyone.  He can't not have it be about him, thats pretty sad.  I figured someone who dedicates so much time and really isn't a total moron (be fair) would be bothered to actually do a good job.  Instead he's taken the rope given by GS and fucking hung himself, while putting on clown makeup.

Shoving through the stupid OMG destructable stations thing sort of makes me think he already senses either his position as chairman or position on the CSM all together might be coming to a quick end.

/waves to eve-o guests.

[Amarr HM]

Don't worry Hoax your not the only one who supported him. /me runs for the hills ... 

[Phildo]

At least Hardin's not descending into the mud-slinging with the rest of them.  Or is he and I hadn't noticed?

[SillyFish]

At least Hardin's not descending into the mud-slinging with the rest of them.  Or is he and I hadn't noticed?

Do you really think he even needs to mud-sling with people doing it for him. Hell does he even need to actively post right now posting only gives people things to misinterpret and try and fling back. Right now he is stay clean and out of it so that when he does have something to say people will actually look at it and not see static.

[Amarr HM]

Jade you reading this ? what sillyfish just said... pronto.

I know its kinda old but .. "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt "

[SillyFish]

Jade you reading this ? what sillyfish just said... pronto.

But jade will never be anything but static because no one will ever read his posts unless he can make a point and not a three page essay.

[TripleDES]

I think best course of action would be CCP turning EVE into a singleplayer game with a NPC filled world, every NPC shouting obscenities into local chat. This would probably be more enjoyable than the retard fest it has become. In 2004, when I started playing, the retards were just a low noise floor. Now it's turned 180°. Maybe it's just faux memories, tho.

[SillyFish]

I think best course of action would be CCP turning EVE into a singleplayer game with a NPC filled world, every NPC shouting obscenities into local chat. This would probably be more enjoyable than the retard fest it has become. In 2004, when I started playing, the retards were just a low noise floor. Now it's turned 180°. Maybe it's just faux memories, tho.

Sounds like my memories of UO. Then I played on official servers after tram. Reminded me at least my memories will be rose tinted.

[Simond]

Of course, the true hilarity of this whole thing is we (Goonswarm) can just back one candidate next time, crowbar them into the chairman's position, then have them mute everybody except themselves and win every vote with a majority of 1-0. 

After all, that is the final destination of the route Jade is currently heading down.

[SillyFish]

Of course, the true hilarity of this whole thing is we (Goonswarm) can just back one candidate next time, crowbar them into the chairman's position, then have them mute everybody except themselves and win every vote with a majority of 1-0. 

After all, that is the final destination of the route Jade is currently heading down.

Works for me. Stuff would probably get done to.

[eldaec]

Something I enjoyed on the forums:

I feel it's unfair to relegate my issue with cynojammers and jumpbridges to Serenity Steele, a CSM representative who has no concept of the problems involved in this issue.

He advocated a form of CONCORD in 0.0 space for god's sake.

Life is unfair. I emphasize with your plight I really do.

Awesome on so many levels.

Another good one from Jade:

I'm going to cite my 30 Ship tech2 RR battleship force that I once tried to hit station services with and decided not to be bother after seeing the ridiculous amount of time it would take to achieve anything

30 tech 2 battleships on a major pvp op would have been an interesting thing to see.

[SillyFish]

Something I enjoyed on the forums:

I feel it's unfair to relegate my issue with cynojammers and jumpbridges to Serenity Steele, a CSM representative who has no concept of the problems involved in this issue.

He advocated a form of CONCORD in 0.0 space for god's sake.

Life is unfair. I emphasize with your plight I really do.

Awesome on so many levels.

Another good one from Jade:

I'm going to cite my 30 Ship tech2 RR battleship force that I once tried to hit station services with and decided not to be bother after seeing the ridiculous amount of time it would take to achieve anything

30 tech 2 battleships on a major pvp op would have been an interesting thing to see.

My tech 2 battle ships I't doesn't matter that black ops ships blow and the only other tech 2 battle ships are meant for pve and have shitty sensor strength. If he means t2 fit ships well he still has no idea how to play the game or fit a ship.

[bhodi]

At least Hardin's not descending into the mud-slinging with the rest of them.  Or is he and I hadn't noticed?

No, but that doesn't mean he's not getting talked about

I kinda mean he's whispering sweet nothings to darius in meetings and giving bane virtual hand-jobs under the table - that sort of affiliated.

(the response is worth mentioning as well)

I'm given to understand that you and Serenity are engaged on full on e-nal sex so it's nice to know that Hardin has such discretion in his virtual faggotry.

[Darius JOHNSON]

Jade's way of dealing with the fact that people don't agree with it has been to divide the council into make-believe "factions" of "with it" and "against it". Attacking Hardin has been a Jade pastime for a while now. v0v At least I got some sweet nothings out of the deal. (I wish I got Bane's end of the bargain)

[Phildo]

I never realized the CSM was such a sexy place!

[eldaec]

Doesn't seem a very smart way to split the council either.

I mean, if Jade imagines Hardin as the leader of some subversive CVA/Goon dominated element, then that's three members, plus presumably that guy who Jade muted makes four, one more dirty goon lover and you got yourself a permanent majority. Woot?

[Darius JOHNSON]

Doesn't seem a very smart way to split the council either.

I mean, if Jade imagines Hardin as the leader of some subversive CVA/Goon dominated element, then that's three members, plus presumably that guy who Jade muted makes four, one more dirty goon lover and you got yourself a permanent majority. Woot?

When you're never wrong and the only reason people don't agree with you is because they hate you personally because they're jealous of you or something this is an easy mistake to make.

[Jayce]

Doesn't seem a very smart way to split the council either.

Jade doesn't strike me as a very politically savvy person.  He FANCIES himself one, though.  That leads to a lot of buffoonated attempts to pull stunts like this that almost always misfire. 

His presence here was one too.  I mean, he thinks he won the intarnet but replacing all your posts with WALL OF TEXT I think strikes most people as more a tantrum than anything.

[IainC]

I used to LARP with Andy Cruse. Back then he was a powergaming egomaniac who would bludgeon his way through forum discussions by avoiding the discussion of any relevant points but instead responding with long and rambling walls of text on how anyone who disagreed with him was fundamentally retarded. Giving him any credibility is a mistake, giving him any actual power is a disaster.

[Endie]

I used to LARP with Andy Cruse. Back then he was a powergaming egomaniac who would bludgeon his way through forum discussions by avoiding the discussion of any relevant points but instead responding with long and rambling walls of text on how anyone who disagreed with him was fundamentally retarded. Giving him any credibility is a mistake, giving him any actual power is a disaster.

More please.  Much, much more.  Anecdotes involving inappropriate touching would be best.

[IainC]

More please.  Much, much more.  Anecdotes involving inappropriate touching would be best.

It was many years ago and the boards in question no longer exist. If anyone wants to play internet detective though, he was leader of House Constantine who were a part of the Harts Faction in the Lorien Trust's Gathering system.

Doing 'an Andy Cruse' became the accepted term for walls of text that sapped your will to live.

[Pezzle]

Found this forum at the office today.  Highly entertaining, a pity I missed out on the now edited content, ah well ;)

[ajax34i]

Plus presumably that guy who Jade muted makes four...

I think Inanna is a woman, actually, so muting her was doubly disastrous, as he's been finding out.

[Pezzle]

Correct, the rep from Electus Matari is female (or so they tell me when we are not threatening each other).  The other female being ankjrutfh64y3ujtfg or whatever her name is =)

[ajax34i]

Ankhesetapemkah - Ankh ese tape mkah.  Call her Leeloo.

EDIT:  eh, I missed an n there.  Ankhesentapemkah.  My mnemonic device won't work now.

[Pezzle]

see how my answer is better?  :P

[SillyFish]

Ankhesetapemkah - Ankh ese tape mkah.  Call her Leeloo.

EDIT:  eh, I missed an n there.  Ankhesentapemkah.  My mnemonic device won't work now.

Except Leeloo Dallas multi-pass was awesome fifth element is awesome. Milla Jovovich is hot but in some bad movies.

[schild]

What in the holy fuck are you silly assholes talking about?

[Pezzle]

MUL TI PASS

Anyway.  It is a pity the CSM is such a mess right now.  Better hopes for the future and all that.


**Edit**
I believe we are talking about the gender breakdown of the CSM.  My original post was amusement at this thread.  The group I am a part of has dealt with this sort of thing for years..

[schild]

I hate to break it to you - The CSM means nothing, never will and is a completely flawed idea. I don't even play the game. But banking on it meaning anything, ever meaning anything, or as anything more than a symbol is just harebrained. It's time to move on. Go mine or blow up some guy and laugh about the haul.

[Pezzle]

Oh, it may indeed mean nothing.   It might have meant *something* but this is just a mess.  I had hoped for a small start.  Let them tackle a few issues and build momentum.  This is just a comedic disaster.

[ajax34i]

I think it was just an excuse for CCP to get us to post more signal than noise on a separate forum (or two), rather than in General Discussion or whatnot.  They don't need a face-to-face meeting with a bunch of players / forum warriors to see what we're whining about - the [issues] are now conveniently all sorted in one forum, with votes (however few) ranking them by importance, and all the "discussion" that they can possibly handle reading.  The whole meeting thing and handing out the answers is for the benefit of keeping us talking and keeping the S:N ratio high in the Assembly Hall forum.

EDIT:  Of course, it's degenerating into CAOD and that's probably not good in their eyes.

[SillyFish]

It is good for something, providing drama to keep the masses enthralled.

[Phred]

GIven CCP's efforts in the past to duck, avoid and blame shift onto the whistle blowers I find it highly doubtful the CSM would ever have amounted to anything but a distraction that could simultaneously shut up the complainers and distract people from looking too closely at CCP.

[Jayce]

It is good for something, providing drama to keep the masses enthralled.

This might be more true than I had previously considered.  Take a look at this thread - second only to War as the biggest thread here.

It's got some catching up to do, but I think this thread is up to it!