GTA IV

[stray]

No loading problems on mine so far. When I bought it, the gamestop kid warned about both the x-box and ps3 versions, and showed me a bag he had of returned copies.

[Lum]

For those of us who play GTA4 mainly to hear Vladivostok FM, you can listen to it at work, too!

[Azazel]

You mean buy 2 360s when the first one dies, or buy a PS3 and not have to deal with that at the same cost.

This is me, just throwing that out there. I've never had a system that I was paranoid of. Like, the actual system. So this is unknown territory for me. But the 360, is literally a piece of shit, due to no fault of the games. And if you import one, you get no warranty and are up shit creek with an ugly concave paddle.

I'm not happy with the fragility of the machines, though I'm banking on the 3-year warranty getting me a replacement machine by the time mine dies. I'm not sure where you're getting "import one" from in any sense, when I'm clearly talking about importing GTA and not a machine. Why would you/anyone bother importing a 360? Straw Man.

but I think it's short sighted to say that the 360 Pro is half the price of the PS3, at least if you want to play online. It's pretty much the same logic people use when they buy stuff on payoff plans and doesn't realize they're paying an extra +30% of the actual price in the end.

Without being overly insulting, could you try that sentence again, but in legible English?
 
From all reports the 360 works fine online with GTA4, and I've never had a major issue with Live, while from what I understand the PS3 is having networking issues with GTA4 and Home is a POS. I'd imagine the GTA network issues will be patched quicksmart (because, you know, DUH) but maybe not if COD4 is anything to go by...

Oh, and apparently my copy has now shipped. It should be here right after the weekend.  

[Nija]

People who live in hellholes like Arizona have electronics fail from heat. Or people put the 360s in enclosed spaces and they overheat and fail.

My elite is still chugging along fine, and it's not even the newer processor system. The new ones run way cooler and quieter.

Plus my multiplayer works. Neener neener.

[MisterNoisy]

but I think it's short sighted to say that the 360 Pro is half the price of the PS3, at least if you want to play online. It's pretty much the same logic people use when they buy stuff on payoff plans and doesn't realize they're paying an extra +30% of the actual price in the end.

Without being overly insulting, could you try that sentence again, but in legible English?
 
From all reports the 360 works fine online with GTA4, and I've never had a major issue with Live, while from what I understand the PS3 is having networking issues with GTA4 and Home is a POS. I'd imagine the GTA network issues will be patched quicksmart (because, you know, DUH) but maybe not if COD4 is anything to go by...

Oh, and apparently my copy has now shipped. It should be here right after the weekend. 

He's referring to the additional cost of XBL ($40/year or less if you do some searching) vs. the free Sony equivalent - you'll ultimately end up paying more for a 360 + Live.  At current prices, the total cost of the two machines (and their respective online services) evens out after about 15 months or so (depending on whether you already have a bluetooth headset, etc.), with the 360 becoming more expensive the longer you pay for Live.

Of course, this doesn't take into account the superiority of XBL as a service, but Sony's working on getting feature parity - they've finally unfucked the PS Store and are working on things that 360 owners take for granted (in-game 'dashboard' menu access, etc. and their own flavor of achievements coming with Home).

[Riggswolfe]

People who live in hellholes like Arizona have electronics fail from heat. Or people put the 360s in enclosed spaces and they overheat and fail.

My elite is still chugging along fine, and it's not even the newer processor system. The new ones run way cooler and quieter.

Plus my multiplayer works. Neener neener.

This has been my experience as well. I've had my 360 from about a month after release until now and have never seen one single red ring. The only people I've known who had issues A) smoke  and/or B) kept their 360s in non-ventilated areas.

[schild]

People who live in hellholes like Arizona have electronics fail from heat. Or people put the 360s in enclosed spaces and they overheat and fail.

My elite is still chugging along fine, and it's not even the newer processor system. The new ones run way cooler and quieter.

Plus my multiplayer works. Neener neener.

My 360 red ringed in the dead of winter. 360s failing - while chalking it up to heat is easy - isn't the big issue. The big issue is that it is one of the shittiest most malfunctioning pieces of hardware ever created. Period.

[Velorath]

People who live in hellholes like Arizona have electronics fail from heat. Or people put the 360s in enclosed spaces and they overheat and fail.

My elite is still chugging along fine, and it's not even the newer processor system. The new ones run way cooler and quieter.

Plus my multiplayer works. Neener neener.

My 360 red ringed in the dead of winter. 360s failing - while chalking it up to heat is easy - isn't the big issue. The big issue is that it is one of the shittiest most malfunctioning pieces of hardware ever created. Period.

Yep, it's right up there with the PS2.

[murdoc]

My 360 didn't even red ring, the graphics card on it came loose and would cause the the screen to go black at random times and would get progressively worse. 3 days before my extended warranty ended too.

Now I have an Elite. Mission accomplished?

[Sairon]

but I think it's short sighted to say that the 360 Pro is half the price of the PS3, at least if you want to play online. It's pretty much the same logic people use when they buy stuff on payoff plans and doesn't realize they're paying an extra +30% of the actual price in the end.

Without being overly insulting, could you try that sentence again, but in legible English?

What MisterNoisy said, I couldn't seem to find a word for it in english. I don't know if it's common practice in the US, but over here everything above ~$100 comes with the option to split the payment into monthly chunks. What some people fail to understand though is that there's a hefty intrest added on the grand total, so you end up paying more.

[Bunk]

The system does have it's issues. Hell, I had to tear mine open and superglue a metal grommet back in to place in the dvd drive. Now that was really a case of using cheap dvd drives, but hey.

Generally though, the elites appear to have avoided most of the issues the previous gen had.

[WayAbvPar]

I had to replace my Elite, but only because I violently tripped over a cord coming out of the USB port and made the port go bad. Never had a problem other than that.

[Nija]

I think it's racial.

[RUiN 427]

so when you get a lap dance in-game the 360 controller vibrates randomly... and at the end of the lapdance your 360's camera snaps a photo of you and sends it to everyone in your friends list, then unlocks the acheivement "caught red handed"

[Ozzu]

so when you get a lap dance in-game the 360 controller vibrates randomly... and at the end of the lapdance your 360's camera snaps a photo of you and sends it to everyone in your friends list, then unlocks the acheivement "caught red handed"

Ha. That's pretty clever. I got my PS3 from Amazon.com 4 days ago and got GTA IV this morning. I've only played a couple of hours, but man, what a great time this is gonna be.

[Azazel]

He's referring to the additional cost of XBL ($40/year or less if you do some searching) vs. the free Sony equivalent - you'll ultimately end up paying more for a 360 + Live.  At current prices, the total cost of the two machines (and their respective online services) evens out after about 15 months or so (depending on whether you already have a bluetooth headset, etc.), with the 360 becoming more expensive the longer you pay for Live.

Thank you, it now makes sense to me.

360s failing - while chalking it up to heat is easy - isn't the big issue. The big issue is that it is one of the shittiest most malfunctioning pieces of hardware ever created. Period.

Yeah, I'll pay that. It's why I waited till I was very likely to be getting a later revision machine before I bought one. People who smoke shouldn't make a difference (noone in my house does, but weak excuse for a piece of consumer electronics to die).

As I've said many times, if sony either dropped the local price to an actual parity with the US exchange rate I'd buy one. If they reinserted backwards compatability, thet would be gravy. As long as it's neither, I'm happy to wait. Let's not turn this into yet another PS/360 fanboi bitchthread, or I shall have to start talking about how good GTA might be with waggle controls 

What MisterNoisy said, I couldn't seem to find a word for it in english. I don't know if it's common practice in the US, but over here everything above ~$100 comes with the option to split the payment into monthly chunks. What some people fail to understand though is that there's a hefty intrest added on the grand total, so you end up paying more.

No probs, as I said, I wanted to ask what you were saying without being insulting. I'm not in the US either, but here we also have various kinds of Lay-By, though not everything has the option.

[stray]

I might try the sixaxis later on. Will report later. I can't imagine it being good... This game is hard to control as it is.

I hear that the Aus 5 cent piece is the actual value of it's metal now.

[MisterNoisy]

I like the Sixaxis reloading controls (it's reflexive now after playing Army of 2), but that's about it.  The other ones are novelties at best.  Fortunately, you can enable each set of motion controls individually.

[Ozzu]

I like the Sixaxis reloading controls (it's reflexive now after playing Army of 2), but that's about it.  The other ones are novelties at best.  Fortunately, you can enable each set of motion controls individually.

This basically sums up my feelings on it. I did the little sixaxis tutorial that you can access through your cell phone. Just not that great. Even for reloading, I don't really care for it.

[Azazel]

I might try the sixaxis later on. Will report later. I can't imagine it being good... This game is hard to control as it is.

I hear that the Aus 5 cent piece is the actual value of it's metal now.

Yes, except we tend to be paid a fair bit more than you guys in a lot of different jobs as far as number of dollars a week. Oh, and universal health care, etc. 

[stray]

WTF, my game is hanging now. Not even that far in (Uncle Vlad mission).

[schild]

Yea. GTA has that problem on both consoles. I'd return it and get another copy. Me thinks it's a printing error.

[stray]

Actually..

It's connected to PSN somehow. I started the game without my PSN account signed on, and it works. I then went to my cell phone and reconnected that way.

Invite me to a game if you can btw 

[schild]

Not playing at the moment, COD4.

[stray]

Holy crap. I think I'm finally appreciating the scale of this game. I started an online match, started off in some neighborhood, found a chopper, and now I'm just wandering the whole city.

[Ragnoros]

Question: What are you supposed to do with money in this game? I have almost half a mil to my name with nothing to spend it on.

I mean yeah you can buy guns, but most all of them are locked out from purchase until you find the damn thing in a random mission. Yeah body armor. But $500 every couple missions is a drop in the bucket.

I remember in mercenaries you could buy anything you wanted and have it delivered on the spot. From guns to vehicles to carpet bombs. That was nice...

[Miasma]

Can't you still buy property?

[NiX]

No, not that I've seen. You acquire most of the safehouses.

[Falconeer]

Great. It doesn't start anymore. It hangs up while loading at startup.

Not a glitch for 4 days and now I am 100% screwed.

[stray]

Try what I did -- disconnect from PSN/internet. I think it's has to do with network connections in the background during startup.

[schild]

Bingo. It's interfacing with their servers through PSN and their code is shit. Just unplug ethernet and don't turn on wireless.

[Falconeer]

I guess that will work like magic with online multiplayer. Sweet. Sigh.

[stray]

Just connect again once you're in the game (through the cellphone).

[bhodi]

You can sign out of the playstation network by going to your buddies list, highlighting yourself, triangle, sign off. You don't have to physically do anything.

Also, this is shit. I expected better from rockstar games.

[HAMMER FRENZY]

At this point I am kinda disappointed with this game. It just feels like it is a batch fuck of stuff taped together. On their own, the separate parts are all piss poor. I think the presentation is great and the game looks fine, but it just plays like ass and I am kinda over the whole open world aspect of it. Especially if it less interactive than the last game was. The lack of activities like the ambulance/ tow truck/ fire fighting/ working out, vehicle upgrading, skills upgrading, stealth kills, weapons, bicycles, gang control, blah blah blah. They removed a lot of shit. Add to that the crappy controls, the camera sucking balls especially indoors, the fighting feeling like fucking shit, it just smells of shit.

It is really a shame that despite all this, I still put it in. it just feels that this game, more than others kicked me in the ass hard after the hype wore off.