Computer fixed. Replaced mobo with a P5KC and Proc with a Q9450. It's... fast.

[schild]

Ok guys.

I'm getting some big fucking issues with my computer. When the house hits 78 degrees F (exactly) or above - my shit starts getting delayed write errors. This happens nearly every day in AZ.

I have an E6600 and an 8600GTS in this box and a beefy power supply. Someone recommend me some shit within the next couple hours so I can go to Frys and Fix this before all my Mozilla and Thunderbird shit gets erased again.

Also, it won't boot up for a good 30 minutes after shutting it off from that issue and sometimes it says "CPU is Unworkable or Has Been Changed."

Help a brother Out.

[hal]

Do you have a fan on your hard drives? If not can you? If not consider a case that you can. Delayed write errors are screaming hot hard drives to me. Can you jury rig a fan on them to try?

[schild]

Hot hard drives would make sense. I'll buy a fan at Target and strap it to the case. See if that helps.

[Morfiend]

Another thing to think about is that maybe your CPU fan isnt set completely correctly. I had a friend who had a problem where when the house temp would hit a specific temp, his system would just shut off, we reset his CPU fan and it went away.

[Morfiend]

Hot hard drives would make sense. I'll buy a fan at Target and strap it to the case. See if that helps.

Some thing else to check would be to just open the side of your case and see if you still get the error. Thats a way to tell if its the airflow.

[schild]

Case is open. It's a desktop. Also, CPU fan spinning nicely. Also, fans turned up to high.

[Miasma]

With some cases opening it up actually does more harm than good, they count on the air being forced a certain way and when the side is open it can't drive as much air over the components.

[Trippy]

Don't stack the drives next to each other in the cage, there should be at least a drive height gap between the drives. If there's already a drive height gap move them further apart if possible. I can reliably get a drive to fail "prematurely" by sticking it between 2 other drives without any significant gaps in between. Get a SMART monitoring tool or other temp monitoring utility and check the temps of your drives. Install a case fan in front of the drives. Check the temps of the drives with the panel open and closed. Try it with the fan pulling air from outside the case and expelling air from inside (normally you would have it pulling from outside but it sounds like your ambient air temp is really high). Also check the temps of your CPU, GPU and chipset with the panel open and closed.

[schild]

Don't stack the drives next to each other in the cage, there should be at least a drive height gap between the drives. If there's already a drive height gap move them further apart if possible. I can reliably get a drive to fail "prematurely" by sticking it between 2 other drives without any significant gaps in between. Get a SMART monitoring tool or other temp monitoring utility and check the temps of your drives. Install a case fan in front of the drives. Check the temps of the drives with the panel open and closed. Try it with the fan pulling air from outside the case and expelling air from inside (normally you would have it pulling from outside but it sounds like your ambient air temp is really high). Also check the temps of your CPU, GPU and chipset with the panel open and closed.

I only have one drive in the cage. There is no fan on it. I will afro-engineer one, going to target soon. I don't really have a way of installing an actual case fan :(.

[Trippy]

Get a better case n00b.

[Numtini]

Not starting makes me think CPU, I'd reseat the fan.

[rattran]

Also could be your chipset overheating. Depending if it's an intel or nvidia board check the heat of the northbridge or mcp chip. Or stand the case on its side with a big ass box fan blowing in.

[sidereal]

Problem solved.

No, seriously.  Install a SMART util and check your drive temp before going off and buying gear.  Also, you can check your CPU temp in the bios.  Not sure if there's a reliable way to do it from the OS.

[schild]

Graphics card temp is 62C. My roommates is about $42. Pretty sure my case is just too hot. Ugh.

[Trippy]

I'd just go with your Target fan solution at this point. Your entire system is running too hot so just get a big fan and blow it into your case. I used to recommend that back with CoH was first released because it would easily overheat the stock NVIDIA 4x00 GPUs (the reference board fan sucked) and it worked great.

Otherwise I would need pics of your internals and the components you are using to figure out how to get it cooled down sans-external fan.

[schild]

Will post pics tonight. Will hit up target later.

[Engels]

I second the notion that you should first get a regular fan to blow into the case. However, that said, 78 degrees isn't -that- hot ambient temp, so it may be something wrong with the termal paste on the CPU. Use CoreTemp for CPU temp monitoriing while in the OS:

http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

Here's my current solution, which seems to do well. (22 degrees at idle, 33 at load)







Sorry for crappy image quality; done on the el Iphono in a hurry. Anyway, its a Antec Lanboy, but many cases come with a similar cooling mechanism.

[Murgos]

Along with the already good advice make sure you clean the crud out of your fans.  It can make a big difference.

[schild]

Along with the already good advice make sure you clean the crud out of your fans.  It can make a big difference.

First thing I did, got another delayed write error afterwards.

[Trippy]

Graphics card temp is 62C. My roommates is about $42. Pretty sure my case is just too hot. Ugh.

Still need to know your other temps as well (CPU, chipset, hard drive).

[schild]

[Engels]

Is that under load, or at idle? 43C on an idle Core 2 Duo seems a bit high.

[Viin]

Could just turn your air conditioner on, I mean, 78 is pretty warm.

[schild]

78 is with the AC on. I live in Phoenix.

[Strazos]

I've never gotten read errors, but I've had my system auto-shutdown on me before due to heat.

Make sure everything is seated. Make sure the case isn't bundled up, and has proper ventilation. I cannot keep my PC in a desk cubby, as the AMD chip will burn up.

[Trippy]

Your CPU is way too hot.

What heat sink/CPU cooler are you using? You need to reseat it like Numtini said. You'll need to disconnect the power and enough crap to get at the cooler (you may have to take the entire motherboard out of the case). Then unscrew/detach the locking mechanism and *carefully* pry it off without twisting or sliding it too much (some twisting will likely be required to "break" the hardened paste). You want to inspect the CPU and the bottom of the heat sink to see how the paste was distributed onto both sides to see if the heat sink was misaligned, not enough paste/too much paste was applied or in the worst case the heat sink or heat spreader on the CPU is not totally flat.

[Strazos]

Yeah, now that I think of it, that's far too hot for a C2D.

That's actually a great under-load temp for my old AMD though. 

[schild]

I figured Core 1 and Core 0 were the CPU and the other Core was the GPU.

[Trippy]

Hmm...maybe. That looks a little odd. What does your NVIDIA control panel say for temps?

Edit: run a pair of copies of CPUburn and check your CPU temps. Is your power supply fan working properly? How hot is the air being expelled from the back of the power supply?

[schild]

Yea, Core 1 & 0 is the CPU. Under CPU Burn when things hit max load, they capped at 50c.

Core is the Graphics core.

It took less than a minute for both CPU cores to drop below 40C again. I think it may just be HD fans. Also, the CPU0 fan went above 1500RPMs at max load.

[Trippy]

Okay so we're back to your GPU or maybe your PS. What's your video card?

[schild]

It's the graphics card and hard drive. There's absolutely no circulation at the hard drive and the graphics card is too close to the sound card, not enough flow. Going to buy an external fan for both tomorrow and just sit them outside the case blowing in. C'est la vie. That's what I get for buying a home theater case that doesn't have adequate cooling.

[Trippy]

Hard drive temp is fine. Not being able to restart your computer until it "cools down" for 30 minutes suggests a larger problem.

[schild]

Ok. Booted up after 1 minute of cooling down. Absolutely identified the problem. Graphics card. It hit 73C and totally hard locked. Everything went to shit. Getting a fan and aiming it directly at the fucker.

[Trippy]

If there's anyway to move the sound card you could install a slot cooler like such.

Other options would be to take out the sound card and use an external USB sound device or rip off the cooler on your video card and install a 3rd party cooler.