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gimpyone
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Reply #70 on: June 04, 2005, 03:35:29 AM

I always found latin intresting, it'd be cool to learn some of it.
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Reply #71 on: June 04, 2005, 10:22:22 AM

Ajax, ... it sounds to me like you're making the slightly bizarre assumption that the Romans and Mayans have ... not changed in any other significant ways. 

That's correct, because when you say "Romans" I imagine the Romans as they were, and the Mayans as they were, pyramids and all.  Any detail not specifically described, I fill in with how they were at the time.  The information they released about the game describes that they advanced technologically, so I changed that detail and filled in everything else with how they were in the RL at the time when they still existed.

So if I told you I was making a game about "space pirates" would you imagine a Spanish galleon with rockets on the back?

No, I'd assume Robert Urich was invovled somehow.
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Reply #72 on: June 04, 2005, 12:51:18 PM

Religion isn't touched on in Imperator, because it's the third rail of angering people in RL. Same reason Albion has no holy symbols beyond a grail in DAOC.
It might be kind of fun to make Latin an integral part of the game, though. You could turn Latin into the "l33t" speak of the 21st Century! :-D

God, would that be awesome.  Don't toy with my emotions like that.

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Reply #73 on: June 04, 2005, 12:59:42 PM

quidquid latine dictum sit, audit viditur ...

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Reply #74 on: June 04, 2005, 01:10:20 PM

quidquid latine dictum sit, audit viditur ...

Scio cur summae inter se dissentiant!  Numeris Romanis utor!

Iway avehay onay ideaway atwhay anyway ofway ouyay areway ayingsay.

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Reply #75 on: June 04, 2005, 02:46:06 PM

Religion isn't touched on in Imperator, because it's the third rail of angering people in RL. Same reason Albion has no holy symbols beyond a grail in DAOC.
It might be kind of fun to make Latin an integral part of the game, though. You could turn Latin into the "l33t" speak of the 21st Century! :-D

God, would that be awesome.  Don't toy with my emotions like that.

quidquid latine dictum sit, audit viditur ...

Scio cur summae inter se dissentiant!  Numeris Romanis utor!
Quod licet jovi, non licet bovi ...

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Reply #76 on: June 04, 2005, 04:13:29 PM

Religion isn't touched on in Imperator, because it's the third rail of angering people in RL. Same reason Albion has no holy symbols beyond a grail in DAOC.
It might be kind of fun to make Latin an integral part of the game, though. You could turn Latin into the "l33t" speak of the 21st Century! :-D

God, would that be awesome. Don't toy with my emotions like that.

quidquid latine dictum sit, audit viditur ...

Scio cur summae inter se dissentiant! Numeris Romanis utor!
Quod licet jovi, non licet bovi ...

Quid dixisti de matre mea???
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Reply #77 on: June 04, 2005, 04:21:59 PM

This is silly even for you lot!  You are nesting all over the place, too!

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Reply #78 on: June 04, 2005, 05:10:05 PM

What?
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Reply #79 on: June 04, 2005, 05:23:20 PM

Anyone know of some good Latin-English, English-Latin software or websites?  I have a feeling we're gonna need it as Imperator draws near.

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Reply #80 on: June 04, 2005, 06:34:22 PM

http://www.google.com/translate_t

Edit: That doesn't do latin, but it's all the help I can give.
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Reply #81 on: June 04, 2005, 06:37:40 PM

As far as I know, there is no automatic Latin translation software anywhere.  There are some decent dictionaries, though, and that's really all that anyone with a few years of Latin under their belt needs.  I'm fond of Words.
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Reply #82 on: June 04, 2005, 07:19:54 PM

As far as I know, there is no automatic Latin translation software anywhere.  There are some decent dictionaries, though, and that's really all that anyone with a few years of Latin under their belt needs.  I'm fond of Words.

Yes well, it sort of sucks for those of us who spent nearly a decade learning a language that hasn't been dead for over a millenia O_o.

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Reply #83 on: June 04, 2005, 08:55:40 PM

The state of American education today is truly appalling.
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Reply #84 on: June 04, 2005, 09:10:52 PM

Come again? after nearly a decade of French I was able to help my parents plan a trip to Paris for their wedding aniversary and communicate, albeit haltingly with the numerous French and french speaking Lebonese transfer students on campus at our International House.  My fellow students who took Spanish were able to communicate more effectively with the Mexican immigrant help in the Kitchen I worked in.  It may not be the best in the world, but I hardly call that appalling, and certainly more useful than learning Latin for an equivalent period of time.

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Reply #85 on: June 05, 2005, 12:13:11 AM

Yes, but someday when we both travel back in time to ancient Rome, I'm going to be the only one who knows how to ask where the crapper is.  Who'll be laughing THEN?
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Reply #86 on: June 05, 2005, 03:43:11 AM

Touche

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Reply #87 on: June 05, 2005, 09:42:08 AM

The state of American education today is truly appalling.

It's a dead language.  Honestly, optional.  I don't know it, couldn't care less.  I missed out on classical music, world history, the intricacies of political systems, and world geography too.  Can't hold a conversation in polite society; wouldn't know what to talk about, not even sports, I couldn't care less about sports.  It's the social grooming that's appalling, not education.  And only for me.

The American education system...  how would you rate an education system that teaches advanced sciences earlier (example, calculus in high school), requires 2 foreign language electives from the 8th grade up, and has a strong world history/geography curriculum, but is corrupt and there's an expectation that the parents must bribe the teachers every semester or more, else you don't pass?  Or, for some teachers, there's no bribe, there's just whim.
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Reply #88 on: June 05, 2005, 11:13:37 AM

Refer to above statement about inadequate preparation for time travel.
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Reply #89 on: June 06, 2005, 09:58:03 AM

Religion isn't touched on in Imperator, because it's the third rail of angering people in RL. Same reason Albion has no holy symbols beyond a grail in DAOC.

Yes, because having to pick a god to worship in EQ really hurt that game's sales.

I have to diagree with this, especially when you start talking about the Roman civilization. The influence of non-Roman religions (which was pretty much most of what the Romans followed) was so integral to the history of the Empire. First, it was co-opting and Romanizing the Greek gods, then co-opting and Romanizing the early Christian Church. In the timeline, does Jesus Christ exist? Or did God just decide not to help save humanity? So much of what happened in Roman history past the Republic was so linked in with Christianity, both good for the Empire and bad.

I don't see how having religions would really hurt an MMOG, because 99% of the people won't give a shit, even when they are forced to choose a religion at character creation. However, NOT having religion be a big part of the world, especially when you are talking about a civilization that has a long history of being influenced by religions, is a huge lore mistake.

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Reply #90 on: June 06, 2005, 10:02:37 AM

Using real-life religions is kinda iffy, though.  The old Greek/Roman gods you could probably get away with, but introduce Christianity into a game and you'll get it from the kooks on all sides.  Non-Christians will be upset that Christianity is getting airtime, and Christians will be upset that it's being made part of a game.
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Reply #91 on: June 06, 2005, 11:44:37 AM

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