Dieting again.

[Signe]

I went to summer camp with a boy who had two or three (I don't remember) extra nipples under each of his regular nipples.  They weren't exactly lined up with each other, but almost.  We were only seven but I'm sure he must have been smoking something.  Or maybe I was.  Regardless, I couldn't ever not stare at him when it was time for swimming.  I don't think I've made this up.  I will confirm with my sister later, just in case.

[SnakeCharmer]

The last two months or so, I've actually dropped more weight than I intended to.  I've been completely redoing my backyard; so between moving thousands of pounds of earth by shovel/wheelbarrow and placing about 700 60lb landscaping bricks/blocks and laying sod, I've gotten a helluva workout.  

The coup de grace has been the root canal I just had.  I'm a complete pussy when it comes to my teeth, and haven't eaten much at all.

[Oz]

Complete and utter bollocks.  Throw some studies my way and I can throw more your way.  Still a myth, like most of them.

You're absolutely right, Signe.  The reports on marijuana and gynacomastia are all over the damn place.  However, the use of CB1/2 agonists to study changes in circulating endocrines strongly suggest that activation of these receptors can induce the development of breast tissue in males. 

Regardless of whether its true in the big picture is kind of arbitrary.  If an individual wants to do something (i.e. smoke) they should, but they should also accept the consequences of those actions.  I like to smoke, if i get bitch tits oh well.  That kind of thingie.      and yes "thingie" is the official scientific nomenclature. hehe

[Sky]

You do not get breasts from smoking pot, ffs. You might get emphysema, cancer, etc. But you're inhaling smoke, so that's kind of a gimme.

However, the use of CB1/2 agonists to study changes in circulating endocrines strongly suggest that activation of these receptors can induce the development of breast tissue in males. 

Or you could use the millions of walking case studies that prove it wrong. Fucking eggheads.

[Oz]

Lung damage surely (emphysema, etc), cancer i doubt.

Fucking eggheads

Dirty Hippies.

[Lantyssa]

Oh.  Damn.  I was getting my hopes up.  Thanks for letting me know the truth before I became a bum and sat around smoking all day.

[schild]

Wise from ur gwave.

I just sent the diet information, after a few months (SORRY OK) to a bunch of people. If you wanted it and didn't get it via pm, just email me, schildATf13.net. I'll keep the file on my desktop for a few weeks for easy sending. If you have more questions, email me them also. No, I will not send you my actual diet. I really don't think it would work for you. But I'll be willing to answer questions if you decide to do the diet. Like how to cope with ANGER. 

[Signe]

So you're saying that you are no longer an angry young man?  You know that's not true!  You would be lost without your anger.

[schild]

Did Styx inspire your post?

[Signe]

Styx!      Don't make me kick your ass.

[Trippy]

Clearly you have too much time on your hands.

[schild]

Me?

[Trippy]

You're kidding yourself if you don't believe it.

[Sky]

Don't stop believin'.

[Trippy]

Wrong band.

[voodoolily]

You're kidding yourself if you don't believe it.

Fooling yourself if you don't believe it.

[Signe]

Styx, Journey, REO Speedwagon, Foghat, they're all really the same band.  Sort of  like Poison, Skid Row and Cinderella, and that lot. 

[Trippy]

Arena Rock rules

[slog]

whats your weight now?

[schild]

Stable. I still hover 5 pounds up and down from 223. Lowest is 215ish, highest is 228.

I didn't bother dieting the second time wiht the surgery coming up and then the move. it was hopeless, lots of drinking happened during that period also. And some heavy medication.

[schild]

Thinking about doing it again since I'm working from home now though.

[MrHat]

Best of luck dude.

[slog]

Is a diet a good idea if you can't keep the weight off?  I've read somewheres (no idea where of course) that going on and off diets can be really bad for long term weight loss if you don't keep the weight off.

[schild]

Uh, I've kept the weight off. I haven't gone over my final weight in any substantial way whatsoever since I stopped dieting. And I've had some shitty binge eating and drinking periods. It's all about managing your intake. Not hard after you've dieted like this.

[slog]

Uh, I've kept the weight off. I haven't gone over my final weight in any substantial way whatsoever since I stopped dieting. And I've had some shitty binge eating and drinking periods. It's all about managing your intake. Not hard after you've dieted like this.

Really? what did you start at?  230 sounds high to me.

[schild]

308.

I've got a big frame. Anything below I'm thinking 180-190 and I'll look deathly thin. 190/180 with muscle pushing me up to 200 would be great probably.

[slog]

308.

I've got a big frame. Anything below I'm thinking 180-190 and I'll look deathly thin. 190/180 with muscle pushing me up to 200 would be great probably.

Or you can do a percent body fat test.  I started out as a fat 245 pound 5' 10 guy a few years ago, then I lost 50 pounds to 195.  Then I started doing more weights and less cardio and built up to my current 203.  My Percent body fat is actually lower now than it was at 195.

Point being, weight doesn't tell the whole story.  BMI has the same problem.

[Nightshade]

Aren't you like 5 foot nothing and pure bone though?

5'6" and not pure bone. Just enough to give you paper cuts.

He's lying... PURE bone.

[Ozzu]

308.

I've got a big frame. Anything below I'm thinking 180-190 and I'll look deathly thin. 190/180 with muscle pushing me up to 200 would be great probably.

You sound a lot like me on the weight front. I'm sitting at a nice 310 at the moment and I'm a pretty big guy. 6'4" with a large frame.

I need a good diet. I mainly need exercise though. 

[HAMMER FRENZY]

Man I have been working out quite a bit lately and am losing weight. I am surprised cause I am running less and boxing more and still losing descent amounts of weight.

[schild]

308.

I've got a big frame. Anything below I'm thinking 180-190 and I'll look deathly thin. 190/180 with muscle pushing me up to 200 would be great probably.

You sound a lot like me on the weight front. I'm sitting at a nice 310 at the moment and I'm a pretty big guy. 6'4" with a large frame.

I need a good diet. I mainly need exercise though. 

I'll send you the info I sent people on my diet. When I was at 310, I didn't call it "nice." :P

[voodoolily]

After putting on the ~10 pounds (depending on how "empty" I am it fluctuates 6-11 pounds) I gained after we quit smoking, my weight hasn't changed at all in 9 months, and I only watch what I eat once in awhile. I think I just cook more vegetables and lean protein, and that's always healthier. A little bacon for flavor never hurt anything! I've also switched from diet coke/bourbon cocktails to wine.

[schild]

Diet coke/Bourbon is probably better for you in terms of weight.

[Reg]

You're much better off drinking red wine as far as your health goes.

[Azaroth]

The difference would be negligible and hinge almost entirely upon how much bourbon you put in the drink versus how much wine you put in the glass.

For instance, a 3.5 oz glass of wine has about 80-90 calories. A 1 oz shot of hard alcohol is about 70. If the difference between these two becomes a large factor in your weight, your liver is going to be a bigger problem than your gut.