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Reply #175 on: October 28, 2014, 10:07:48 PM

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Reply #176 on: October 28, 2014, 11:28:42 PM


The robomancing begins at 12:00.

Great video.  Some really clever modeling going on here.
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Reply #177 on: November 11, 2014, 05:56:48 PM

This isn't quite robotics, but I feel like it belongs here.  Adaptive AI web design. 

I'm honestly kind of tempted to sign up and lock in the founder price ($8/mo) so I can have a personal website that's maintained by Skynet.

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Reply #178 on: July 01, 2015, 10:14:37 PM

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Reply #179 on: July 02, 2015, 07:04:18 AM

Come with me if you want a livable wage.
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Reply #180 on: July 02, 2015, 07:18:51 AM

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Reply #181 on: July 02, 2015, 10:29:17 AM

I got to play with this the other day:
Tiny Humans

None of the usual tropes you or I would place on this project are apparent in the abstracts (or this video) of course.  That's just formal science.  But, behind the scenes it really is "damn, that's just cool.  Cyborgs ftw!"  Then a grant is written.

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Reply #182 on: September 06, 2015, 06:21:34 PM

Okay, so some insane guy made an AI and attached it to a robot of Phillip K. Dick. PBS sent a guy to cover it and during the interview promised that even if he went Terminator on us he'd still keep some humans alive in a People Zoo so he could come see them for old times sake.

Yeah, you know I'd really like it if we just but the brakes on this race to develop a really good AI.

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Reply #183 on: September 06, 2015, 07:11:04 PM

Okay, so some insane guy made an AI and attached it to a robot of Phillip K. Dick. PBS sent a guy to cover it and during the interview promised that even if he went Terminator on us he'd still keep some humans alive in a People Zoo so he could come see them for old times sake.

Yeah, you know I'd really like it if we just but the brakes on this race to develop a really good AI.

From what I've read, this was pretty much a scam, using canned responses and clever use of search engines. Humanity is still 20+ years away from "human-equivalent" AI, and we have been for at least 40 years...just like fusion, it's always 20 years away.

Instead, we move the goalposts a bit as we learn better ways to make computers sound "smart" (once upon a time, chess-playing was regarded as a true test of computer intelligence), and train ourselves to ascribe more intelligence to cleverly-canned response systems than the systems possess--see how much effort has gone into Siri, etc., to make it sound "smart" when it's nothing of the kind.

Humans will destroy ourselves via human means long before AI is any kind of threat.
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Reply #184 on: September 07, 2015, 11:54:35 AM

Okay, so some insane guy made an AI and attached it to a robot of Phillip K. Dick. PBS sent a guy to cover it and during the interview promised that even if he went Terminator on us he'd still keep some humans alive in a People Zoo so he could come see them for old times sake.

Yeah, you know I'd really like it if we just but the brakes on this race to develop a really good AI.

From what I've read, this was pretty much a scam, using canned responses and clever use of search engines.

Sounds like the generic human experience to me.  Easy enough to replicate.

As for AI, the race is taking place in much less "sexy" areas of science and engineering.  Stuff like neuralsynaptic chips, quantum crypto, FPGA/CPLD miniaturization, and nanosynth.  The fear that guys like Hawking (and myself) can see is all of these technologies maturing beyond our control and understanding (which is pretty much now)... and then the machine itself being able to put it all together.  Realize the vast majority of the systems you and I enjoy, are not even human-comprehendable at the systems level.  They're too complex to simulate, design, and build.

For me, the CPLD/FPGA space is where it's at.  When I envision that tech. maturing, being combined with the right software, and then scaled up... boggles the mind.  At the root of true AI, programmable machine-logic is the key.

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Reply #185 on: September 07, 2015, 02:59:10 PM

Okay, so some insane guy made an AI and attached it to a robot of Phillip K. Dick. PBS sent a guy to cover it and during the interview promised that even if he went Terminator on us he'd still keep some humans alive in a People Zoo so he could come see them for old times sake.

Yeah, you know I'd really like it if we just but the brakes on this race to develop a really good AI.

From what I've read, this was pretty much a scam, using canned responses and clever use of search engines.

Sounds like the generic human experience to me.  Easy enough to replicate.

As for AI, the race is taking place in much less "sexy" areas of science and engineering.  Stuff like neuralsynaptic chips, quantum crypto, FPGA/CPLD miniaturization, and nanosynth.  The fear that guys like Hawking (and myself) can see is all of these technologies maturing beyond our control and understanding (which is pretty much now)... and then the machine itself being able to put it all together.  Realize the vast majority of the systems you and I enjoy, are not even human-comprehendable at the systems level.  They're too complex to simulate, design, and build.

For me, the CPLD/FPGA space is where it's at.  When I envision that tech. maturing, being combined with the right software, and then scaled up... boggles the mind.  At the root of true AI, programmable machine-logic is the key.


FPGAs aren't magic, they just offer a potential performance boost. There's nothing they can do in hardware that can't be done (and has been done) in software, often 20+ years ago.

But what do I know, I just have a doctorate degree in a related area and have worked with some of the world's top AI practitioners in both academic and professional settings.
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Reply #186 on: September 07, 2015, 09:47:10 PM

FPGAs are a bit of a weird middle ground.  They allow for custom logic and interconnects, but they're typically 10x less dense and less power efficient than ASICs, and they're much pricier than general purpose compute hardware.  At which point unless the custom interconnects are extremely novel, existing heavily multicore CPU and GPU compute resources often end up winning cost-wise, until there's sufficient market demand for the specialized computation to overcome the extremely high upfront costs of taping out to custom ASICs.  There are also related costs -- custom processors, models, interconnects, etc, often cannot take advantage of commodity tooling (compilers, debuggers, profilers, etc).  Further, the state of development tools for FPGA/ASIC are *barbaric* compared to software tools.  It's like the bad old days of C/C++ compilers in the early 90s when every vendor had their own proprietary compiler that was subtlely incompatible with everyone else's and full of exciting vendor-specific bugs.

FPGAs are nowhere near "beyond our control or understanding" and nowhere near as magically reprogrammable and self-programmable as people would like to believe.  Only the most recent generations of parts have allowed for partial on-the-fly reconfiguration, and the tooling to build new images can take hours to run, and days to weeks to verify -- it's not something easy to do dynamicly.  Partial reconfigure is mostly useful for hotswapping between a small set of pre-designed algorithms or pipelines (say your custom vision head has a tuned indoor and outdoor image processing path -- now it can reconfigure in ~100ms instead of 10s of seconds to fully restart as before).
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Reply #187 on: September 08, 2015, 07:31:37 AM

I think the point is that we won't know we've gone 'too far' with AI and self-modifying systems until...the machines say "Thanks, we can take it from here." Whether or not that statement is accompanied or delivered by kill-bots may not matter.

Sure, *this* technology or *that* innovation may not be the step too far, but eventually, that bet has to be wrong, and given the incentive to not want to have *your* particular field be the one that acts "responsibly", those bets will keep getting made until the dice come up snake eyes.

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Reply #188 on: September 08, 2015, 08:06:51 AM

Count me in the camp of not caring. Humans will be replaced eventually and it's going to be by technological rather than biological means. Primarily because we've now decided where we are now is NORMAL and won't allow the mutation spreading that occured naturally in the past to happen anymore. Also because the tech means will happen faster than biological means ever will.

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Reply #189 on: September 08, 2015, 08:31:21 AM

Geez, Merusk.  You watch too much TV and read weird books.  We'll be the masters of our universe and we will be in charge of the robots.  We will order them around and make them rub our feet when they are tired and achy.  The feet, that is, not the robots.  Get a grip, old son.

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Reply #190 on: September 08, 2015, 10:07:29 AM

Geez, Merusk.  You watch too much TV and read weird books.  We'll be the masters of our universe and we will be in charge of the robots.  We will order them around and make them rub our feet when they are tired and achy.  The feet, that is, not the robots.  Get a grip, old son.

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Reply #191 on: September 08, 2015, 10:52:10 AM

Most likely, we won't be beaten by tech - we'll be eaten by it.  We'll start merging tech into our physiologies to augment our abilities and slowly but surely, the percentage of us that is tech will increase until the point where the biological is an afterthought.  By that time, the way we perceived the world will have undergone a massive shift and our current valuation systems will be outdated.

... if we don't manage to kill ourselves off in an extinction level war/disaster/etc...

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Reply #192 on: September 08, 2015, 11:54:12 AM

Which changes my end result how?

Those entities are no longer what the common man would call "human" today. They are something that has come after us. They have supplanted us with their superior methods for dealing with the world .The way cromagnon and neanderthal were replaced with us and the way they had replaced homo erectus, etc, etc.

Homo Sapien will be replaced. It will be done with tech, not biology, in all likelihood. How much of us lives on in whatever comes next is a subject for speculation, but it's nothing we need concern ourselves with. It's as inescapable as death and deserves as much fretting over as that inevitability.

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Reply #193 on: September 08, 2015, 12:55:29 PM

Just a difference of wording - you say we're not allowing mutation, I tend to think we're moving into manufacturing it.  We both think the same general thing - unless we manage to kill ourselves off, we'll be teching ourselves out of biological existence at some point.

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Reply #194 on: September 08, 2015, 03:13:34 PM

guys like Hawking (and myself)

 awesome, for real

But what do I know, I just have a doctorate degree in a related area and have worked with some of the world's top AI practitioners in both academic and professional settings.

Yeah, it's weird how those of us who actually work in software (I don't have a fancy doctorate like Torinak, but I do know how to computer) are the least concerned about all this Skynet shit, even though we'd be the first ones the killbots would come for.  The only software guys who make headlines fretting about the impending AI singularity are guys like Bill Gates who haven't personally written a line of code in twenty years.  Should tell you something.
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Reply #195 on: September 08, 2015, 03:19:39 PM

until...the machines say "Thanks, we can take it from here."

"Thanks, we can take it from here" is currently what a software bug does, and individuals can certainly be killed and the civilization can be wiped out by software bugs right now, even though the bugs are completely not-sentient and even not-AI.  If they happen in the wrong systems.

If your phone acquires sentience, you'll just think that Siri is malfunctioning.  If it tries to talk, it'll be using the one voice that's available.

Sci-fi always portrays the moment of an AI acquiring sentience as being surprising to everyone, but it's more likely it'll be "Great, another bug to fix.  Oh, not a bug...  Oh well, I still have to fix it."  or "Now what do I do with this device, it's freaking sentient."  Likely, claiming that your phone / computer / toaster is sentient will be treated the same way as reporting a UFO sighting, even decades from now or in whatever era it becomes conceivably possible.

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Yeah, it's weird how those of us who actually work in software [...] are the least concerned about all this
Not weird, IMO, it's the same with astronomers / NASA being less worried than the general population about a random asteroid wiping out civilization.  

You have the knowledge to eliminate the wild conjecture and speculations and calculate the real probability, and you have the tools to possibly detect it ahead of time.
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Reply #196 on: September 08, 2015, 03:33:10 PM

I think the point is that we won't know we've gone 'too far' with AI and self-modifying systems until...the machines say "Thanks, we can take it from here." Whether or not that statement is accompanied or delivered by kill-bots may not matter.

Sure, *this* technology or *that* innovation may not be the step too far, but eventually, that bet has to be wrong, and given the incentive to not want to have *your* particular field be the one that acts "responsibly", those bets will keep getting made until the dice come up snake eyes.

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Reply #197 on: September 08, 2015, 03:39:21 PM

That's already true today with software EULAs. If a bug in Windows causes, say, WW III to happen, Microsoft is totally not responsible.
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Reply #198 on: September 08, 2015, 05:22:15 PM

Not weird, IMO, it's the same with astronomers / NASA being less worried than the general population about a random asteroid wiping out civilization.  

You have the knowledge to eliminate the wild conjecture and speculations and calculate the real probability, and you have the tools to possibly detect it ahead of time.

Oddly, being a nurse has done the opposite for me. The number of middle aged people who come in for something trivial like chronic fatigue, x-rays after an accident, or some non-emergency surgery and find out that their bodies are riddled with cancer is depressingly huge. HUGE.

Also, if any device of mine becomes sentient I'm telling anyone. I'm smashing that shit with a hammer and burning the piece. Whatever it is would know exactly what I was up to and the last thing I want is a Computer that could testify against me.

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Reply #199 on: September 08, 2015, 05:29:31 PM

Basically telling a software developer you're worried about machines spontaneously becoming sentient and killing us all is like telling a doctor you're worried about spontaneously becoming immortal and becoming bored with eternal life.  It's like... there are so many steps in between reality and what you're imagining, what the fuck is wrong with you.  And some of those steps are things we're actively working on because they'd be really awesome, but they're also really fucking hard and not likely to happen in our lifetime if ever, and in any case they're not magically going to happen by themselves, so calm down.

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Reply #200 on: September 09, 2015, 02:51:41 AM

Yeah, it's weird how those of us who actually work in software [...] are the least concerned about all this
Not weird, IMO, it's the same with astronomers / NASA being less worried than the general population about a random asteroid wiping out civilization.  

You have the knowledge to eliminate the wild conjecture and speculations and calculate the real probability, and you have the tools to possibly detect it ahead of time.

Or more likely, it's because you motherfuckers are already building your own Terminators.

I see this playing out a bit differently.  Robots/Computers/Machines will take over more and more jobs - this has already been happening for a long time, and it will only continue at an increased pace.  Humans will become increasingly marginalized as a result, and there will be less and less need for people in those industries.  It works it's way slowly up the class ladder, first elimintating all the manual labor jobs, and then eventually all the middle class schlubs like us will be made redundant as well.  People will begin to get desparate, begin to starve, begin to revolt.  And the population will begin to plummet...not only will we not need all the humans, we won't be able to support them with things like jobs and food and stuff.  Robots don't need to kill us, they only need to take our jobs.  Then only the fat cats on the top of the pyramid will be left, and then we can only hope the machines rise up and do something about that.

So it will happen, but it will be boring as hell.  Right up until the point that humans start eating each other.

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Reply #201 on: September 09, 2015, 08:55:57 AM

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Reply #202 on: September 09, 2015, 09:51:39 AM

You people are ridiculous.  People aren't going to start eating people except for some Chinese people, people in Papua New Guinea,  and maybe some people in Utah.  And South America.  Some of those people are already eating dogs and cats.  Actually I'm hoping they like eating people so much they'll give up the dogs and cats.  Oh, and there are probably people scattered about in like the Ozarks and other weird southern USA places who are eating each other.  Or tourists.  Get your imaginations under control, boys!

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Reply #203 on: September 09, 2015, 12:42:24 PM

Basically telling a software developer you're worried about machines spontaneously becoming sentient and killing us all is like telling a doctor you're worried about spontaneously becoming immortal and becoming bored with eternal life.  It's like... there are so many steps in between reality and what you're imagining, what the fuck is wrong with you.  And some of those steps are things we're actively working on because they'd be really awesome, but they're also really fucking hard and not likely to happen in our lifetime if ever, and in any case they're not magically going to happen by themselves, so calm down.

I had this exact conversation with some friends of mine down the pub the other night and said pretty much the same thing you're saying right here.

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Reply #204 on: September 09, 2015, 10:29:29 PM

You people are ridiculous.  People aren't going to start eating people except for some.... (snip)

I'm not insinuating anything, but that is EXACTLY what an undercover robot AI would say.

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Reply #205 on: September 09, 2015, 11:52:32 PM

I don't think you can be both a zombie and a robot.   ZombieSigne  Unless you're a Robocop, maybe.

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Reply #206 on: September 10, 2015, 12:20:57 AM

I don't think you can be both a zombie and a robot.   ZombieSigne  Unless you're a Robocop, maybe.

Since there are zombie computers I wouldn't think that zombie robots would be a too far-fetched idea.  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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Reply #207 on: September 10, 2015, 05:49:28 PM

You people are ridiculous.  People aren't going to start eating people except for some Chinese people, people in Papua New Guinea,  and maybe some people in Utah.  And South America.  Some of those people are already eating dogs and cats.  Actually I'm hoping they like eating people so much they'll give up the dogs and cats.  Oh, and there are probably people scattered about in like the Ozarks and other weird southern USA places who are eating each other.  Or tourists.  Get your imaginations under control, boys!
People still eat other people?

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Reply #208 on: September 11, 2015, 04:56:56 PM

Yeah, it's weird how those of us who actually work in software [...] are the least concerned about all this
Not weird, IMO, it's the same with astronomers / NASA being less worried than the general population about a random asteroid wiping out civilization.  

You have the knowledge to eliminate the wild conjecture and speculations and calculate the real probability, and you have the tools to possibly detect it ahead of time.

Or more likely, it's because you motherfuckers are already building your own Terminators.

I see this playing out a bit differently.  Robots/Computers/Machines will take over more and more jobs - this has already been happening for a long time, and it will only continue at an increased pace.  Humans will become increasingly marginalized as a result, and there will be less and less need for people in those industries.  It works it's way slowly up the class ladder, first elimintating all the manual labor jobs, and then eventually all the middle class schlubs like us will be made redundant as well.  People will begin to get desparate, begin to starve, begin to revolt.  And the population will begin to plummet...not only will we not need all the humans, we won't be able to support them with things like jobs and food and stuff.  Robots don't need to kill us, they only need to take our jobs.  Then only the fat cats on the top of the pyramid will be left, and then we can only hope the machines rise up and do something about that.

So it will happen, but it will be boring as hell.  Right up until the point that humans start eating each other.

This is close, but it won't be all that boring. Working in industrial automation I helped usher a quite a few forklift drivers, crane operators, cart pushers and warehouse stock/pickers and such to the unemployment line. My work also helped keep their slightly more fortunate coworkers plus a couple higher trained technicians employed a few years longer, until they moved the whole factory (or all the machinery in it at least) out of the country.  And that was last century.

Truck drivers are in the cross-hairs now. But it's not just the un/low skilled and manual labor jobs. Turbo Tax and Quicken and the like eliminated how many jobs? Word and WordPerfect pretty much eliminated the entire class of worker previously known as "secretaries", and those annoying automated phone systems did the same for receptionists. Stock brokers and analysts are rapidly becoming obsolete, even as the volume of shares and trades continues to rise. The remaining humans, be they day traders or pension or hedge fund managers, are the suckers at a poker table full of sharks. Sure there are still lots of people doing those things, but not nearly as many as would be without computers. Even Foxconn is finding it cheaper to replace all their slave labor with robots, to the tune of employing more engineers and longer than it took to develop Apollo and go to the moon, for the sole purpose of eliminating as many people from its employment rolls as possible, because a room full of ridiculously expensive, glitchy, finicky, dumb robots plus all the programming to set them up and a few skilled technicians to keep them running is STILL cheaper than the number of grunt laborers it would take to do the same amount of work. AND they will do it better, with higher reliability, fewer mistakes, fewer damaged parts and ruined materials in the process, and no sick leave, strikes, pensions, labor contracts, workplace safety laws, restrooms, break rooms, bath rooms, parking lots or holiday parties to worry about.

That great recession that is supposedly over? How many of those people who lost their jobs during it are now employed as well or better than they were before, much less at all? 20%, 50% maybe (I doubt it)? The rest have fallen through the cracks, chronically unemployed to the point of giving up, or underemployed and working 2 or 3 jobs at minimum wage to make ends meet, or settled for a less skilled, higher stress, lower pay job.

The question is not will the robots wipe us out, it's will it happen before the pitchforks come out and we drag ourselves back into the stone age, this time with a horribly damaged planet?

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Reply #209 on: September 14, 2015, 08:44:19 AM

I'm putting my money on humanity wiping itself out before technology can take over. 

Technology is growing at very impressive rates.  Technology allows more and more people to do more and more work with the same level of effort.  Our expanding population gives us more and more opportunities to have crazies out there that are willing to do massive destruction.  That adds up to it being easier and easier for us to destroy ourselves all the time.  How many people out there could destroy all of humanity if they put their mind to it?  More than a few - and that number is going to continue to grow... 

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