Roaming Gang Starts Providence Sunday 9th 20:00ET

[Der Helm]

Due to being late from work I made it to the staging area a few hours to late  : 

[bhodi]

Same :/ I wasn't able to pull away from work. I'll make the sunday one, for sure!

[Horazon]

 Obviously what happened with the Vae Victis pilot was that as we were in catch, he considered he was in a NBSI region, still, Bat pilot was with us, so ill consider he knew what he was doing.
 We have reseted them to neutral.

[Llyse]

I'll try and make the Sunday op.

Just a question, from my underestanding is if you obey the rules of NRDS you're free to rat in Providence even if you're part of AM or CVA etc?

[Endie]

I'll try and make the Sunday op.

Just a question, from my underestanding is if you obey the rules of NRDS you're free to rat in Providence even if you're not part of AM or CVA etc?

I think that's what you meant?  And yes, that is true.

[Horazon]

 Basically, the storyline behind Providence is the following:

 Amarrian paramilitaries ( the CVA, Vigila Valeria, PIE, The Aegis Militia ) claimed the region in the name of the Holy Amarr Empire, everybody who want to live  there is free to do so as long a they respect Empire Laws.
 See it as if you were living in an Empire region with a lower Concord response ( As CVA & Friends are the actual concord of the area :) )

[Venkman]

That's cool. So instead of having to make a full "we ally"/"we don't ally" decision for F13 or BAT, we could have people who want to be there go there now? Pick a base of operations and start getting the nuances of 0.0?

I'd be all over that.

[ajax34i]

Well it's always a good idea to give a heads-up to the local powers that be, before you do anything.

[Horazon]

 Yes you can,

 You will need to clear yourself to local authorities ( aka The CVA ) to get access to the basic intel channel. There is also a possibility to rent an office in one of the providence outpost for 35 to 45M a month dependiing on the owner and their policy.
 
 ( before you do that, i seriously think you should reconsider the benefits of suicide ganking in Empire, if you happen to blow yourself on a Providence resident, ally or even alt, you ll get permabanned for sure even if it happens not IN Providence, this is really something we dont want to hear about )

[Slayerik]

Let me clear something up for you Horazon. I'm a nefarious empire ganker. I am in Triumvirate and have nothing to do with Bat Country.

There is one other person here that actually suicides, I don't want to speak for him but I doubt he would stay in BC if he continues with this profession. This is wholly a case of 1 or 2 bad apples (one of which being unassociated with these guys, besides the fact that I have been on these boards before I even played Eve).

Basically, Nerf (dizafrabadee) must decide his course of action and let it be known. The others are getting our rep without deserving it.

[Endie]

Slay is a bad 'un, it's true.

[Nerf]

For the good of the corp, I've decided to give up piracy (in 24 hours).
So don't worry about this bad apple spoiling the bunch, and if I *have* hit a AM alt, let me know and I'll bow out, I've been careful not to target anyone in AM so as not to screw up everything for BC, but they havn't been "in" on my nefarious activities, they just laugh at how fast I go through battlecruisers.

-Dizafrabadee

Edit:  Also, I can assure you, this decision has everything to do with me being a team player, and nothing to do with my plummeting security status. Really!

[ajax34i]

nm, redundancy is redundant

[Horazon]

 I just wanted to raise that this activity is not compatible with the plan of living in Providence.
 Nothing has been reported to far, so I think it ll be fine.

 Don't worry Slayerik , i was only concerned by Nerf actions and possible spill over effects on other BC or F13 eve players.

 Now that is said, i cant refrain myself using this very appealing and appropriate smiley

 Thank you

[Morat20]

I just wanted to raise that this activity is not compatible with the plan of living in Providence.
 Nothing has been reported to far, so I think it ll be fine.

 Don't worry Slayerik , i was only concerned by Nerf actions and possible spill over effects on other BC or F13 eve players.

 Now that is said, i cant refrain myself using this very appealing and appropriate smiley

 Thank you

I think Nef's done enough to brag about. He has made our killboard look pretty. :)

I've never engaged in piracy, except for our low-level frig gank-squads. If I DO decide to, I'll have the good grace to do it through an alt. :)

[dwindlehop]

There's another option, if CVA gets sour on you. Great Wildlands is occupied by Foundation who are also NRDS. Reds include -V- and FIX, which may interest the crowd here. Foundation will blue just about anybody if you blue their blues, red their reds, and respect the ratting rules. Blues include the RSF, though for the brief period of time I was blue to Foundation they didn't much care whether we shot RSF or not. They did care about us shooting other, smaller blues who couldn't protect themselves.

Downside of GW is that Foundation doesn't "police" their space like CVA apparently does. Upside is a highsec office is two jumps out, and zero sec offices are available in NPC stations. Also, GW has the aforementioned opportunities for a little action against the deserving. They mostly fly interceptor/Vagabond gangs.

UGH left BLAC, reset our blues, left GW, and joined NOTR a few weeks ago, so I've left the area.

[Grand Design]

Welcome to F13, Horazon.  :bow:

Now that is said, i cant refrain myself using this very appealing and appropriate smiley

It is appealing, isn't it?  A little too appealing, perhaps?  He's so cute, but you know what he's thinking.


 

[Grand Design]

Oh, yeah I'll be there on Sunday!

I got distracted with all the gank-talk.  Evil, evil gankers. 

[Gets]

Only two hours to go. I have bought, fitted and insured a Celestis made for ruining someone's weekend.

With it I can damp 'em, scram 'em, web 'em, nos 'em!

My only worry is enemy drones. It would be amazing if we could repeat last times success.

[tar]

Looks like I should be able to make the op tonight

[Hoax]

X     

[Endie]

I and others will be in the F13 channel to take Xes at 8.

[bhodi]

Better hurry, fleet's formed :)

Meeting in Mista VI - Moon 16 - Hedion University School.

[Llyse]

I'm at work right now

[Mook]

I'm at work right now

Ditto. =(

[Akkori]

I'm on a crappy laptop  Two more weeks to RMA heaven!

[Endie]

Ah well, we roamed Catch and Providence, followed reports of hostiles, camped likely gates, tried to tempt hostiles with shows of weakness, impressed a member of Red Alliance sufficiently to provoke a "wow" from him in local when he jumped into our camp.  Sometimes, though, the targets just aren't going to show up, and there's not much to do about it.  Horazon's idea of a frigate op down to Stain (two regions to the south) is a good one, though, and one I'd considered, myself, since virtually nobody has them as blue, anywhere in Eve.

The red vaga that jumped in could have been caught.  It just takes practice and a bit of luck.  For taking on vagas, nano-ishtars and the like we really need webs (and neutsas a bonus).  If a hostile is reported as jumping in then you really want to pre-fire your web and point so that it is flashing away with nothing targeted.  The next thing you single- or double-click on will lock and be webbed/scrambled at once: three (or 2 T2) webs from fast-locking inties/destroyers would give everyone else time to lock and web, and that's him dead.

Because webs are shorter-range, though, you need to spread out: in that situation everyone needs to be orbiting the gate at 10km, with drones out.  Drones no longer decloak a target, but they will prevent him recloaking (assuming he has one fitted if close enough.

One thing I noticed from various videos of last week in Delve is that some people still have the "you are about to commit a dangerous act" warning before firing on enemies.  This is great to have on in high sec, but means that a fast ship will be gone by the time you click it in 0.0, where fractions of a second mean several km.

[dwindlehop]

Drones no longer decloak a target, but they will prevent him recloaking (assuming he has one fitted if close enough.

Just to be clear, you're saying that drones won't decloak a target who has his jump cloak up, but drones will decloak someone who activates a highslot cloak. Right?

[Endie]

Drones no longer decloak a target, but they will prevent him recloaking (assuming he has one fitted if close enough.

Just to be clear, you're saying that drones won't decloak a target who has his jump cloak up, but drones will decloak someone who activates a highslot cloak. Right?

Indeed, nothing will uncloak someone still on the gate-jump cloak.  But drones, like cans, will not decloak someone who has their cloaking module activated.  They will, however, stop that person successfully activating their cloak if close enough.

[dwindlehop]

I don't believe I agree with that assessment. I think drones will decloak someone who successfully activates a cloak. Granted, I haven't done a controlled trial where I know the interceptor or whatever the drones are orbiting fails to come with 2km of the cloaker, so I could be wrong. But it does seem that having drones out helps.

[Endie]

I don't believe I agree with that assessment. I think drones will decloak someone who successfully activates a cloak. Granted, I haven't done a controlled trial where I know the interceptor or whatever the drones are orbiting fails to come with 2km of the cloaker, so I could be wrong. But it does seem that having drones out helps.

Drones used to decloak, and everyone at gatecamps will still always pop drones to hunt for a covops, but they'll only stop a recloak.  The same thing applies to cans: you can prove the behaviour for yourself there.  Sneaking up to a can is fine.  Recloaking near it is not.  Since it started at the same time they altered object behaviour to stop people preventing titans from warping out with cans, wrecks and corpses, I suspect that it may be a side-effect of that vOv