Quitting smoking.

[Mrbloodworth]

Most "facts" about weed come from: Racism, Dupont, and the 20-30 and 50's. Most of them have been proven wrong. Not saying there isn't side affects (everything you take in has them, even a pork chop), but most is pure political BS created for personal, and stupid gains.

I think i would enjoy hanging with sky and friends more than SC's brother and crew.

As far as Alcohol VS's pot. Never heard of anyone smoking to much and beating the shit out of people (ETC..).


Back on topic: I have cut back a lot, that should help when the time comes. My plan is to go cold. But if it take to much, i will explore other options such as quitting aids and the like.

[voodoolily]

I smoked the hell out of weed for a very long time, and it wasn't until I stopped that I realized stoners are some flaky, spaced-out people (some to the point of utter uselessness). I work with a guy in the summer who gets high on the job, and he is totally unfocused and retarded (relatively speaking) for an hour after. The threats and dangers of pot smoking are mostly false (smoking is bad for you, regardless), but a general lack of focus is not propaganda. This can be dangerous under certain circumstances.

My brother and dad are addicted to pot, which I never thought was possible until I saw how easily I gave it up and how they just can't/won't. My brother lost an important apprenticeship when he failed a UA that he knew was coming (instead of stop smoking, he used those herbal diuretics), and is a fix-it guy in an apartment complex (instead of a plumber). He's got two kids and is almost 30 but acts like he's 16, and I think it's because he started getting high when he was 13. 

[Mrbloodworth]

I smoked the hell out of weed for a very long time, and it wasn't until I stopped that I realized stoners are some flaky, spaced-out people (some to the point of utter uselessness). I work with a guy in the summer who gets high on the job, and he is totally unfocused and retarded (relatively speaking) for an hour after. The threats and dangers of pot smoking are mostly false (smoking is bad for you, regardless), but a general lack of focus is not propaganda. This can be dangerous under certain circumstances.

My brother and dad are addicted to pot, which I never thought was possible until I saw how easily I gave it up and how they just can't/won't. My brother lost an important apprenticeship when he failed a UA that he knew was coming (instead of stop smoking, he used those herbal diuretics), and is a fix-it guy in an apartment complex (instead of a plumber). He's got two kids and is almost 30 but acts like he's 16, and I think it's because he started getting high when he was 13. 

i think a lot of that really comes down to , "Is it apart of your life, or IS it your life?", and personal responsibility. Again, Replace pot, with alcohol in in some of your example.

I honestly think, if it ever became legal, and not so taboo. Many people would be surprised who came out of the wood works as smokers.

I'm all about personal choice. There is no need for the government to regulate it (Work places are a completely different story, they can make up there own rules). The criminalization of it makes criminals (See: Prohibition), not the other way around.

[Nerf]

About 36 hours without a smoke now, I'm not sure if the Chantix is making me more or less stabby, but I sure as hell want to fucking stab something.   

[Mrbloodworth]

About 36 hours without a smoke now, I'm not sure if the Chantix is making me more or less stabby, but I sure as hell want to fucking stab something.   

Is that stuff pricey? keep the faith man, hang in there.

EDIT: Better question, i see its only available VIA doctor's prescription. Was it covered by your medical benefits if you have any?

[Nerf]

It's about $114/mo, where smoking a pack/day in texas sets me back about $150, I'm not doing it for the money, though, waking up in the morning and spending 15 minutes hacking shit up just aint fun anymore.

[bhodi]

It's about $114/mo, where smoking a pack/day in texas sets me back about $150, I'm not doing it for the money, though, waking up in the morning and spending 15 minutes hacking shit up just aint fun anymore.

OK, now it all starts to make sense in Eve! You are undergoing a ... how to put it politely ... personality modification :)

You're on the man rag.

But seriously, good luck. I hope you kick it, so you don't have to afk to smoke anymore :)

[OcellotJenkins]

About 36 hours without a smoke now, I'm not sure if the Chantix is making me more or less stabby, but I sure as hell want to fucking stab something.   

Is that stuff pricey? keep the faith man, hang in there.

EDIT: Better question, i see its only available VIA doctor's prescription. Was it covered by your medical benefits if you have any?

It cost me $15 for what looked like a 3 month supply with my benefits (I was only on it a month).  My doctor also had a coupon for like $20 off, so it's worth asking about that.

[Nerf]

No insurance, and I'm not a fan of going to the doctor unless I think somthing important is going to fall off.  However, my brother is the head of IT for a large heart clinic, so he just got one of the doctors there to write him a scrip, and his insurance doesn't cover it, others may.
It seems like something insurance SHOULD cover, it's in their best interest to keep you healthy, and not smoking is a damn fine way to improve those odds.

[Moaner]

Chantix made me a mean, nauseated mother fucker.  Pissed off + puking = win!

I'm going cold turkey now.  I'm less pissed thanks to Xanax but god damnit I want a smoke!!

[Polysorbate80]

I realized stoners are some flaky, spaced-out people (some to the point of utter uselessness)

On the other hand, my sister-in-law's husband will clean house like a madman when he's stoned.  I don't know why.

[CmdrSlack]

My health plan doesn't apparently cover Chantix, so I'm looking for a loophole. Either that or I'll pony up the $120 and just use it for a month instead of the whole 12 weeks.

[OcellotJenkins]

This is the coupon card my doc gave me.

[Nerf]

My health plan doesn't apparently cover Chantix, so I'm looking for a loophole. Either that or I'll pony up the $120 and just use it for a month instead of the whole 12 weeks.

Tried that, a month just isn't enough, the nice thing about Chantix is that if you DO slip up, the nicotine has no effect and you don't bother anymore.  I tried the whole "I'll just use it for a month" thing, and was smoking again about 2 weeks later.

Then again, I _Really_ love smoking.

[schild]

My health plan doesn't apparently cover Chantix, so I'm looking for a loophole. Either that or I'll pony up the $120 and just use it for a month instead of the whole 12 weeks.

Tried that, a month just isn't enough, the nice thing about Chantix is that if you DO slip up, the nicotine has no effect and you don't bother anymore.  I tried the whole "I'll just use it for a month" thing, and was smoking again about 2 weeks later.

Then again, I _Really_ love smoking.

And it loves you.

[voodoolily]

Seriously, guys, cold turkey isn't that hard. It really isn't. omg, you will still think about smoking once in awhile. But it doesn't hurt as bad as slamming your finger in a door. 

IF TONY BOURDAIN CAN QUIT SO CAN YOU.

[schild]

Are you saying we shouldn't quit til we're like 55, like Mr. Bourdain>?

[slog]

Total side note:

Many non-smokers I know (including me) downgrade smokers when they interview for jobs where non-smokers are also interviewing.

[Mrbloodworth]

Total side note:

Many non-smokers I know (including me) downgrade smokers when they interview for jobs where non-smokers are also interviewing.

Why should smoking even come up during an interview? Do you also ask people if they are diabetic, or lactose intolerant?

[stray]

That's insane.

[Nebu]

Why should smoking even come up during an interview? Do you also ask people if they are diabetic, or lactose intolerant?

You're not comparing diabetes and lactose intolerance to smoking... are you? 

People get judged for lots of reasons during interviews.  Age, race, sex, size, etc.  It's part of the whole "life is unfair" thing people keep mentioning. 

[stray]

race, sex

Huh. I thought that was illegal 99% of the time.

[Nebu]

Huh. I thought that was illegal 99% of the time.

Businessess get around this by making up other reasons.  You already know this. 

[Tebonas]

I'd just tell them no smoking breaks during work. If they can manage that, they can smoke at home and during lunch break (outside my building) as much as they like.

Its not like anybody inflicted their vice on them or they were born that way, they did it on their own free will. And therefore show a lack of intelligence and/or willpower.

[stray]

And therefore show a lack of intelligence and/or willpower.

You forget that some people simply like it. No one is stupid enough to not understand the harmful effects, so it isn't because they're "unintelligent". Hell, there are even MD's and Nurses that smoke.

And as for willpower, just step into a NA or AA meeting once. You'll find plenty of smokers, but it wouldn't be the correct thing to say that they lack "willpower" per se.

[Tebonas]

They can like it at home all they like. I like pastries. I don't eat them during worktime.

Edit: They can't here either. In effect they stand outside smoking while they are unreachable by us nonsmoking coworkers.

[stray]

Oh, if that's all you meant, then I'm with you. People can't even smoke in buildings here, so it'd be meaningless to argue anyways.

[slog]

Total side note:

Many non-smokers I know (including me) downgrade smokers when they interview for jobs where non-smokers are also interviewing.

Why should smoking even come up during an interview? Do you also ask people if they are diabetic, or lactose intolerant?

I've never asked anyone if they smoke during an interview.  It's more like "Eww this person smells like cigarette smoke.  Pass"  I didn't mean to imply it was a formal question.

[Bunk]

That's insane.

Not really. The smokers in my office take about 8 - 10 smoke breaks a day.

[Sauced]

Not really. The smokers in my office take about 8 - 10 smoke breaks a day.

While you just take your breaks on the internet.

[Polysorbate80]

I've never asked anyone if they smoke during an interview.  It's more like "Eww this person smells like cigarette smoke.  Pass"  I didn't mean to imply it was a formal question.

They may still not be a smoker themselves.  I'm asthmatic, so I've never been a smoker (except for that one puff I took once just to mess with someone's head), but I stank like one for years because my wife smoked.  I also have friends that smoke; if I visit them, I come home reeking of cigarettes.

[schild]

That's insane.

Not really. The smokers in my office take about 8 - 10 smoke breaks a day.

10 to 1 their productivity would turn to shit without those smoke breaks and you don't want a bunch of shaking assholes on your hands.

[Sky]

The Shaking Assholes would be a great band name.

[Nebu]

We had a department head that was an alcoholic.  He was the best boss I've ever had.  Since that time, I've decided to choose the person for the job based on their personality and ability.  If they have a few vices, so what.  As long as they do the job it's all good.

[slog]

I've never asked anyone if they smoke during an interview.  It's more like "Eww this person smells like cigarette smoke.  Pass"  I didn't mean to imply it was a formal question.

They may still not be a smoker themselves.  I'm asthmatic, so I've never been a smoker (except for that one puff I took once just to mess with someone's head), but I stank like one for years because my wife smoked.  I also have friends that smoke; if I visit them, I come home reeking of cigarettes.

Sucks to be them.