Everything I know about MMOs I learnt from Lum - SB resets the world

[stray]

I always thought it was just a trivial design decision. I thought Wolfpack might have been diablo fans. Didn't realize this stuff.

[Soukyan]

Bull. SB came out after DAoC, IIRC. Perhaps I'm wrong, but the bandwidth argument is crap.

Well it's possible makers of two different games have decided to splice their limited bandwidth pie in different manner, and use the server cycles to perform pathing rather than sanity checks if the players are cheating.

Not saying it's impossible to do key movement stuff and hence click to move, just that perhaps they'd thought their resources would've been better spent on other aspects. Hence click to move.

I understand that, I just don't agree with the bandwidth defense as SB made poor use of their bandwidth. DAoC even started encrypting their packets at one point, and they still maintained better latency than I experienced with SB. I think it was just a matter of raw resources that were available. It seems to me that Mythic had more hardware and bandwidth to throw at the problem. Never happened with Wolfpack because by and large SB was a flop.

[HaemishM]

Part of SB's big design philosophy in the beginning was to save money on server hardware by going with what they called "big iron" servers. IIRC, this was using just one physical box for each server, and making that one big a really screamingly powerful machine. It was at the core of the server architecture design philosophy, and in order to reduce load on that server, they went click to move instead of WASD. Of course, the big iron philosophy was completely flawed and never worked right with the code they used, which is one of the reasons SB was such a piece of shit performance wise. By the time they figured out it was a mistake, it was too late to change so they went ahead with it anyway.

[Mrbloodworth]

[Signe]

The picture has made me confused.

[HaemishM]

That picture is missing lots of smoke. And mirrors. And coke-laced hookers.

[Righ]

However, there's a whole row of thingies that LC has duped.

[Mrbloodworth]

The picture has made me confused.

Just giving a visual reference to HaemishM description of Shadow banes server architecture. 














Cuse' that game always ran like ass.

[Nebu]

Just giving a visual reference to HaemishM description of Shadow banes server architecture. 

I believe this would have been more appropriate:

[Ratman_tf]

I believe this would have been more appropriate:

Those things are horrible. The hamster or whatever rodent dude will poke their heads out and get sliced by the big blade looking wheel spoke.

And the poor critters are too stupid to stop trying...

[Signe]

The following information update can also be found on the official Shadowbane Community website at http://chronicle.ubi.com/.

Subject: The Shadowbane Reboot is coming!
Link:  http://chronicle.ubi.com/newspost.php?id=18498

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The Shadowbane Reboot is officially set to go live on March 25, 2008! Some may recognize that this date holds significant value. For those who do not know, Shadowbane was released 5 years ago on March 25, 2003. 5 Years is a special milestone and with it comes the Shadowbane Reboot where the previous servers will be retired and new servers will be born in their place. The re-launch of Shadowbane brings changes that were impossible before and breathes new life into the game and the community! This new life will take place in the world of Vorringia where the tapestries of Baronies and Fiefdoms have been wiped clean. The time has come for the next generation of warlords to rally an army, carve out an empire, and change the world!

The Ubisoft Montreal team will be performing routine network and server maintenance to coincide with the Shadowbane Reboot. The expected downtime will be from March 20, 2008 until March 25, 2008.

Everyone here on the Shadowbane Team is extremely excited to see the Shadowbane Reboot become a reality. We have been able to make the fundamental changes that have been needed for quite some time and are looking forward to continuing work on the balance of Shadowbane!

In conclusion we would like to thank you, the players, for your continued love and support of Shadowbane – without you none of this would be possible. Special thanks also go out to every player that helped us test the upcoming changes on the Test Server – without you the Reboot process wouldn’t have gone near as smoothly. Finally, acknowledgement is due to Ubisoft for keeping this game active and making the Reboot possible; Ubisoft Montreal and Red Storm for putting in the long hours behind the scenes to host Shadowbane; and the Shadowbane Team that has worked day and night to make this Reboot a success.

A prophecy, shouted by a hermit on the steps of the grand Cathedral of Saint Kellast in the holy city of Dalgoth, seat of the Holy Patriarch of the Church of the All Father. The pronouncement was made on the 71st day of the 3rd year of the Age of Thrones (the 102nd year of the Age of Strife by the old reckoning):

Augurs and portents in every nation cry out grim prophecies, and all lands are filled with rumors of war. Soon, the prophets cry, the day shall come when Warlords old and new unsheathe their swords, and drown Vorringia in a crimson flood. The Age of Thrones draws toward its end – the Age of Doom is coming! Legions shall muster, strongholds shall rise, and stone walls will shatter. Grim kings shall unwind the bloody flag of war, and unleash fire and earthquake on their foes.

The weak shall be conquered! The strong will Crush!

[Ratman_tf]

Play 2 Crush, bitches!

[Xuri]

What about crafting skills? Can I bake bread?

[HaemishM]

Why is it everytime I hear about this, I feel such a desire to play for like 5 seconds? And then I remember why I don't play.

[Der Helm]

Why is it everytime I hear about this, I feel such a desire to play for like 5 seconds? And then I remember why I don't play.

I still play it now and then since it is free to play (to crush  ).

I usually have lots of fun.

[WayAbvPar]

Why is it everytime I hear about this, I feel such a desire to play for like 5 seconds? And then I remember why I don't play.

Heh- same. Although if we gathered enough people who wanted to play, I would definitely check it out.

[naum]

Why is it everytime I hear about this, I feel such a desire to play for like 5 seconds? And then I remember why I don't play.

Heh- same. Although if we gathered enough people who wanted to play, I would definitely check it out.

Y, need a guild for this game as it not solo-friendly game...

[Falconeer]

This game deserves more attention and less pointing and laughing.

Right now it's one of the most original MMORPG out there, and one of the absolute top 3 PvP wise (EVE, DAoC and ShadowBane), if not number 1.

The reset is as good as a Bacon Cup.

[naum]

This game deserves more attention and less pointing and laughing.

Right now it's one of the most original MMORPG out there, and one of the absolute top 3 PvP wise (EVE, DAoC and ShadowBane), if not number 1.

DAoC is a PvP game?

[Falconeer]

DAoC wasn't definitely my kind of PvP, and I argued the same thing so many times. I just included it because apparently everyone but you and me consider it PvP, and very good at it.

[WindupAtheist]

Haemish is gonna have a moment of weakness and play, and the moment he tries to run it he's gonna get the SB.EXE error.  They'll be able to hear the last fading vestiges of his scream of "THUNDERCUNTS!" as far away as Tibet.

[Falconeer]

You know what could save ShadowBane? A Trammel facet.

[tazelbain]

Nothing.  It has so many fundamental flaws and so much ill will in the market, nothing short of time travel could save it.

[Falconeer]

No, I meant a Trammel facet.

[tazelbain]

So replace the PvP with sarcasm?

[Numtini]

So replace the PvP with sarcasm?

The engine can't handle sarcasm with more than 10 people snarking at once.

[Falconeer]

Today is the day!
Server reset and mergers for everyone! It's a all new brand and shiny DAY ZERO.

http://chronicle.ubi.com

Head over, get the client, choose the Saedron Malog server (there are just two). and play to crush.

If people can develop the Matrix eyes needed to decode Dwarf Fortress "graphics", quit whining and let's just PeeVeePee.


N.B: SB.exe not included in this limited offer.

[Signe]

I was just going to ask everyone which server they weren't going to play on!   

[Falconeer]

Go go go Bat Crush Country 

P.S: I am afraid "everyone" is just me.

[Signe]

That's the strict server, right?  The other one is ARAC.  If you choose the strict server, you should figure out what you're going to do before hand, no?  Also, don't get so excited over a game where it's likely the first group of f13'ers will quit immediately after receiving their first SB.EXE and the last few remaining will quit minutes after the wife brings up divorce.

I have to say, though, you are totally adorable when you're enthusiastic.  You and Cheddar!

[tazelbain]

I think most of the people that might have play SB with ya are playing EvE.

[Signe]

I'm not playing either one.  They both mostly suck.  Eve mostly makes me sleepy.  SB makes me angry.

[Falconeer]

Funny thing is I am playing EVE too and I don't plan to quit.

But hey, ShadowBane is light enough that you can run it in EVE's background and crush other humans nonstop 'ere and there WHILE while warping in EVE, trading, or just watchin skill bars progressing.

And Signe, my enthusiasm saddens me: I am just a part-time cynic.

[Signe]

God.  I can't even imagine the horror of playing Eve and having SB running in a window.  Double horror.   

[Falconeer]

That, Signe, would just be DOUBLE HARDCORE    . Who wouldn't want to be that 1337?


By the way.. what was I thinking with the Lore server? Forget Saedron and let's go ARAC. Malog is the right one!