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Reply #35 on: January 19, 2008, 09:33:52 AM

If the fiscally mis-managed city of Seattle somehow manages to put free Wi-Fi on public buses, the issue is not about a scarcity of resources, trust me here.

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Reply #36 on: January 19, 2008, 10:59:00 AM

If you substitute Electricity, Water/Sewer, or any other utility where costs increase with usage, a per diem charge is the solution.  Why should broadband be different?

Because we don't all use the same Broadband. I use the same electricity as Joe Schmoe next door, but he uses Verizon and I use Time Warner.  awesome, for real

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Reply #37 on: January 19, 2008, 11:00:20 AM

One thing I never understood is how you can have different BB ISP if you're all going over the same lines.

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Reply #38 on: January 21, 2008, 07:38:37 AM

If you substitute Electricity, Water/Sewer, or any other utility where costs increase with usage, a per diem charge is the solution.  Why should broadband be different?

Because we don't all use the same Broadband. I use the same electricity as Joe Schmoe next door, but he uses Verizon and I use Time Warner.  awesome, for real

And both probably buy THEIR upstream broadband from someone else, so in essence, yes, you are using the same broadband at some point down the line. Murgos got the situation perfectly encapsulated. Bandwidth scarcity is only a factor of how much infastructure a company is willing to pay for.

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Reply #39 on: January 21, 2008, 09:20:24 AM

Working for a telephone company, I can tell you that (at least in our industry) the lions share of our money goes into purchasing and maintaining the equipment. The amount of bandwidth people use is pretty much irrelevant to us. The people that are burning up 5gig a night are doing it at off peak hours anyway. Peak times (5-9pm) they turn off their torrents or whatever and surf like everyone else.

This is purely an attempt by them to milk money out of people that probably have no other choice.
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Reply #40 on: January 21, 2008, 09:42:29 AM

One thing I never understood is how you can have different BB ISP if you're all going over the same lines.

You can, if you're clever, transmit multiple data streams on the same wire in parallel.  You know how you have different TV or radio channels (FM, UHF, VHF, etc...) transmitted over air?  From a physics point of view it's practically the same thing, just a different transmission medium.

edit:  Also there are different backbones.  They may share entry points, and share data between each other but they are different physical objects. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_backbone
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