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Topic: Whoa, my pally owns. (Read 15603 times)
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Dren
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For PvP I've gone completely to using Flash Heal. I can time it just right so that I get exactly 1.5 seconds per cast. With the gear I have now, I'm healing at around 1500-1700 per flash and critting quite a bit up to 2100. The quickness helps get in heals between stuns and other CC like mentioned.
Yes, a well coordinated team will keep a healadin locked down quite well, but with better gear I've noticed and can last quite a bit longer. When I'm in that situation, I just try to keep myself alive as long as possible because I know if they are paying that much attention to me, they aren't paying attention to my teamates.
Mana burn really sucks and is death for Paladins. I'm trying to keep potions on me, but for most situations it isn't worth the cost. For Arenas it might be worth it, but BG's would just be a waste. You're going to die. The potions would just prolong it. I do try to stun the priests/locks that are burning my mana, but that is so temporary and has a 45 second cooldown. My bubble? Even longer cooldown. I can't kill them and I can't stop them from healing, sooo. I just heal as much as I can as fast as I can before I die or stand there useless without mana.
As somebody else mentioned, any kind of CC in these games is frustrating and can get out of control. It seems to me that there should be a global cooldown on how long a character can be CC'ed. Perhaps you get a debuff after being the victim of any type of CC that won't allow you to be CC'd for the next 3-5 seconds. I can't even tell you how many times I've been completely useless for MINUTES due to just a few other characters keeping me that way in coordination.
Mace rogues are just evil for a Pally. Two of them are instant death.
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Merusk
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Yep, but everything you've been speaking of is BGs. The Arenas really and truly are a completly different experience. Certian things, like consumables, can't be used at all. Other things, like healthstones, you can count on every time, so long as you have a lock in your team. NOT using bubble/ hammer is a mistake dwarfed only by using them at the wrong time.It's fun, but it can also be much more frustrating than BGs because when you lose, you can blame only yourself and your friends. 
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Dren
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Yep, but everything you've been speaking of is BGs. The Arenas really and truly are a completly different experience. Certian things, like consumables, can't be used at all. Other things, like healthstones, you can count on every time, so long as you have a lock in your team. NOT using bubble/ hammer is a mistake dwarfed only by using them at the wrong time.It's fun, but it can also be much more frustrating than BGs because when you lose, you can blame only yourself and your friends.  I have to admit I have not stepped foot into an arena fight yet. I'm now on a 2v2 and will be doing that this week, but Karazhan runs keep foiling my plans. Hey, at least I'm getting better PvE purples. While not PvP gear, they certainly help. Got my set helm piece last night. I'll have another 100 healing once I get it buffed tonight. That'll top me off at around 1800 +healing unbuffed and a huge mana pool that lasts through mana burns longer anyway. Completely agree on good timing with bubble/hammer though. Life and blood.
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Righ
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Mace rogues are just evil for a Pally. Two of them are instant death.
You should tell them, they'll certainly fix that.
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Montague
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Now that everybody has L2P the holy pally is the worst healer in 2v2 and 3v3. No HoTs and no CC of their own, and too easy to lock down as you experienced. Worse than shaman? Ok second worse, my bad.
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Arrrgh
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Yep, but everything you've been speaking of is BGs. The Arenas really and truly are a completly different experience. Certian things, like consumables, can't be used at all. Other things, like healthstones, you can count on every time, so long as you have a lock in your team. NOT using bubble/ hammer is a mistake dwarfed only by using them at the wrong time.It's fun, but it can also be much more frustrating than BGs because when you lose, you can blame only yourself and your friends.  I have to admit I have not stepped foot into an arena fight yet. I'm now on a 2v2 and will be doing that this week, but Karazhan runs keep foiling my plans. Hey, at least I'm getting better PvE purples. While not PvP gear, they certainly help. Got my set helm piece last night. I'll have another 100 healing once I get it buffed tonight. That'll top me off at around 1800 +healing unbuffed and a huge mana pool that lasts through mana burns longer anyway. Completely agree on good timing with bubble/hammer though. Life and blood. Some charts on paladin score vs team size. You might be better off in a 5v5. http://vhairi.blogspot.com/
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Dren
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I understand about 5v5, but it really comes down to availability. Most of the time 2v2 and 3v3 matches get together at least weekly. The chances of me and the people I run with all getting together and feeling like arenas at the same time is way lower for 5v5. Plus, I'm finding it hard to join a 5v5 because more of the people I know already belong to a full roster.
I get up to 2 hours per night to do one thing and one thing only, so it's hard to squeak in even 2v2 let alone anything more. I'll see what happens. I figure it will be a good learning experience anyway. If I'm really bad with my Pally, I have a lock, rogue, and priest I could use too. Maybe those will be my arena characters while my Pally is strictly BG's at least until some other nerf/buff comes through to change everything again.
The problem with my alts is that they aren't even 1/2 as well geared as my Paladin at this point. He's full of Karazhan level purples with one Gladiator chestpiiece. I think my necklace and a trinket is the only thing that is blue on me now. I've played my other alts in BG's and it can be .... frustrating in comparison.
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WindupAtheist
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Valmorian
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Heh, my rogue fears paladins the least of all the classes, even ret paladins. It's just too easy to get away from them and just ignore them in general.
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