Neocron chugs along- you can now create an account!

[Cheddar]

Patch details

A couple years or so ago a new city was built, and basically the entire game mechanic concerning factions was changed (you can do a search on my rants concerning this).  Before there were a bunch of factions with seperate motivations concerning each other all living in one city- the intricate web was split so half were enemies of the other half (I am simplifying things somewhat).  

Now it is as before!  Oh, and there is something about a free month or somesuch for cancelled accounts.

edit. changed title

[geldonyetich2]

The replies sure aren't acting like it's a giant step backwards.  Weird stuff.

[Cheddar]

The replies sure aren't acting like it's a giant step backwards.  Weird stuff.

Uhhhh, they just reversed what they had set up 2 years ago; hopefully it will bring an influx of players back to the game (I am still cheering them on!).

When it was first launched they had around 70k players or so.  DOY managed to cut that down to a thousand players or so; there are a variety of reasons as to why (Americans having issues getting an active sub, for one!). 

I guess what I am trying to say is that the current playerbase is hardcore enough to put up with the BS shovelled onto their plates.      Or something.  I wish I was better at posting!

[Slayerik]

They fucked me on getting my NC1 account back, so I'm done for good. Though some of the best PVP action I ever had was in this game, so it has a soft spot in my heart. Too bad they were basically incompetent.

[Ixxit]

Hmmm, may have to give it a whirl again.   It will be cool to watch people duke it out in Pepper Park again.

[Cheddar]

I may give it a whirl- right now I am grinding my way to "the fun" on Lineage 2.  Level 22 and still hacking away...


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[LK]

I think we just found your problem as to why you aren't good at posting!

[geldonyetich2]

I'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around the idea that Neocron actually had 70k subscribers at some point.  My experience with the game was in beta and early launch.  The way I recall launch, they actually had to bring several servers down due to lack of population, and even the the server selection screen showing the population rarely crested 500 players online for a single server.

[Cheddar]

I'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around the idea that Neocron actually had 70k subscribers at some point.  My experience with the game was in beta and early launch.  The way I recall launch, they actually had to bring several servers down due to lack of population, and even the the server selection screen showing the population rarely crested 500 players online for a single server.

Server closure was well after launch.  Fuck I hate you.  JUST SHUT UP.


Why do you have to post every 5.3 seconds?

[geldonyetich2]

I don't know.  Why do dickheads ask questions they don't want an answer for?

[geldonyetich2]

Okay, that was wrong.  To give you the honest answer it's because:

A) I currently have far too much free time and little sense on how to spend it.
B) I'm even easier to provoke with pointless jabs than you are.

However, I'm trying really hard not to make threads about me, so lets end it there.

Regarding Neocron's server closure - I was subscribed to the game near release.  I don't think it's a bad game, really.  However, I wasn't subscribed to it very long and servers were being closed during that time.  I don't know how to explain the gap in server closure you described - perhaps they closed servers twice or more.

[Cheddar]

Okay, that was wrong.  To give you the honest answer it's because:

A) I currently have far too much free time and little sense on how to spend it.
B) I'm even easier to provoke with pointless jabs than you are.

However, I'm trying really hard not to make threads about me, so lets end it there.

Regarding Neocron's server closure - I was subscribed to the game near release.  I don't think it's a bad game, really.  However, I wasn't subscribed to it very long and servers were being closed during that time.  I don't know how to explain the gap in server closure you described - perhaps they closed servers twice or more.

Eh, you are forgiven.  You do not have the edit button like us, I will give you that.

There were 5 or 6 servers at first (I forget exactly, I barely noticed the German servers), and it took probably 6 months before any were closed down.  I was heavily invested in the game at that point and pre purchased a few copies. 

[Venkman]

Why would you pre-purchase a few copies of a new MMO? Were you multi-boxing or securing copies for friends?

[Cheddar]

Why would you pre-purchase a few copies of a new MMO? Were you multi-boxing or securing copies for friends?

I wanted 2 copies because I wanted to play on the single character server- due to clicking the buy button twice I ended up with 4 copies.  I dispersed the extra 2 copies to friends- was well worth the investment as we had a blast for a few months.

Neocron still has one of the best crafting mechanics out of any game I have ever played, and the PvP was extremely fun and well done. 

[Hoax]

How I remember Neocron.

Install.
While installing try to figure out character advancement options, get fucking confused.
Start game.
Follow FAQ/Guide and go to a sewer to kill rats/spiders w/ my starting pistol.
Find out sometimes when I shoot aiming at a rat on the ground I actually fire my gun so the bullet hits the ceiling.
Uninstall.

[Venkman]

Why would you pre-purchase a few copies of a new MMO? Were you multi-boxing or securing copies for friends?

I wanted 2 copies because I wanted to play on the single character server- due to clicking the buy button twice I ended up with 4 copies.  I dispersed the extra 2 copies to friends- was well worth the investment as we had a blast for a few months.

Neocron still has one of the best crafting mechanics out of any game I have ever played, and the PvP was extremely fun and well done. 

Heh, yea, I did the same thing by accident with Planetside. Luckily people believed me on eBay when I said the two I was selling were unopened (which they were).

I never got to the point of jerking around with Neocron's crafting system. How did it work?

[Cheddar]

There are 3 primary crating skills- recycling, researching, and crafting.  Everything within the game can be created- you start with minerals, make item parts, then construct the final item.  You could also skip steps in the crafting process by buying parts dropped of mobs or from various stores.  Player created items are always better then store bought.

The skill system allows crafters to gain ability without the need for combat (I knew quiet a few people who never stepped foot out of the safe zones!)  Basically a researcher makes blue prints and sells them to the people who craft; recyclers broke items down do base components, etc.  A new player could do all 3 and keep himself going in new equipment while out hunting; at higher levels you need to specialize more into 1 of the fields so as to maintain an edge.  Also, at the high end of the game are special parts that can only be gained through combat; this creates a synergy between the people who smash and the crafters.

There are a couple other secondary craft type skills (my first character specialized in Bartering); repairs skill was in high demand as items would eventually wear out if not repaired properly. 

For example:
My spy needed a new pew pew gun, so I bought 5 blue prints off a researcher.  I use my barter skill to buy the parts from a vendor, then find a crafter to make me the final product.  Viola, 5 new guns to pick from!

[Venkman]

Yea, that does sound cool. I'm a big fan of games that allow crafters to just be crafters alongside combatants just being combatants. I didn't realize Neocron offered that.

[Draegan]

I've always heard of this game but I've never looked at it.  Is it an FPS type MMO?

[Cheddar]

I've always heard of this game but I've never looked at it.  Is it an FPS type MMO?

Sorta kinda.  Your aiming is directly influenced by skills, position, and movement.  Pistols are the easiest to compensate for with cannon type guns being the hardest. 

[Dren]

I've always heard of this game but I've never looked at it.  Is it an FPS type MMO?

Sorta kinda.  Your aiming is directly influenced by skills, position, and movement.  Pistols are the easiest to compensate for with cannon type guns being the hardest. 

Question:  I have large genitalia.  As such, will the game instantly recognize this upon character creation so that I can start out being 5 levels above anyone else and equipped with all the best gear?

*Sorry, this started looking like a FAQ section and I always thought that would be a funny entry in any game's FAQ.  Plus, I'm just in one of those moods...*

[Slayerik]

The implant system was great as well.

I loved how you could drug yourself to use higher end spells or weapons, but the side effects keep getting worse and worse. It was kind of a juggling act for how many drugs you could take and still be able to function :)

It was a get to the endgame quick and then the fun starts kind of game. The PvE was pretty horrid but i didnt care.

[Mrbloodworth]

Reason i never played this game, even if i wanted to. The Subscription site and options.

[geldonyetich2]

I like the PvP system.  It's a flag, but when your PvP is enabled you are able to use tougher equipment earlier. 

Although PvP is somewhat overly stat-based because players with a moderate level lead over you will take a whopping 1 point of damage from each of your attacks.

(This is assuming none of this has changed since I was last playing it at launch.)

[BigBlack]

I've currently got more MMO goodness than I can handle because I just installed DDO's 10-day free trial, playing for the first time since beta, and it is FUCKING BRILLIANT.  But as soon as that's done, I'd actually like to get in on this.

Are they still blocking Americans from subscribing or something like that?  Can I simply pop in my credit card and play?

[Cheddar]

I've currently got more MMO goodness than I can handle because I just installed DDO's 10-day free trial, playing for the first time since beta, and it is FUCKING BRILLIANT.  But as soon as that's done, I'd actually like to get in on this.

Are they still blocking Americans from subscribing or something like that?  Can I simply pop in my credit card and play?

There are a few new options to sub now; issue was with the people who they chose to handle the money- many American banks would not allow funds to go to said company due to fraud in the past.  Heh, I remember my bank calling me in a panic after I tried to resub after they launched the new expansion.

[geldonyetich2]

[...] I just installed DDO's 10-day free trial, playing for the first time since beta, and it is FUCKING BRILLIANT.

Somebody rez a DDO thread - I'm curious about this.

[Cheddar]

[...] I just installed DDO's 10-day free trial, playing for the first time since beta, and it is FUCKING BRILLIANT.

Somebody rez a DDO thread - I'm curious about this.

Yah, tell us whats up with DDO.  I will change the thread title as needed; shit only like 2 people care about Neocron anyhow.

[Hoax]

[...] I just installed DDO's 10-day free trial, playing for the first time since beta, and it is FUCKING BRILLIANT.

Somebody rez a DDO thread - I'm curious about this.

Yah, tell us whats up with DDO.  I will change the thread title as needed; shit only like 2 people care about Neocron anyhow.

If all three of you died in a trash fire while trying to restart a DDO thread that would do wonders for my day.

[Cheddar]

[If all three of you died in a trash fire while trying to restart a DDO thread that would do wonders for my day.

So do not read this thread.  Shit, who the fuck pissed in your Cheerios this week?  You sound like a whiny bitch.

If you need a hug let us know, I am sure Signe can dig up one of those fancy yellow smiley hugs or something. 

[Baldrake]

Perhaps you could do a comparison between DDO and SWG?

[Cheddar]

Perhaps you could do a comparison between DDO and SWG?

I will fucking kill you.

[Cadaverine]

Momentarily veering back on topic 

Did they manage to roll back all the shitty design decisions, bugs and general crap that makes the game so unenjoyable? 

[Cheddar]

Momentarily veering back on topic 

Did they manage to roll back all the shitty design decisions, bugs and general crap that makes the game so unenjoyable? 

Yes and no.  Same bugs, but reverse design decision concerning factions.

[Cadaverine]

Bummer.

Should have been the perfect storm of awesome.  Strippers, pew pew, and cyberpunk.  How did it all go so wrong?