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on: November 20, 2007, 11:01:31 AM

Good show, i have been enjoying it. I'm an old Quantum Leap fan, so this is kind of a modern take on it.

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Reply #1 on: November 20, 2007, 11:20:57 AM

Never watched Quantam Leap, but I've been enjoying Journeyman. I haven't watched last night's episode, but last week's revelation about Livia's origin was not something I expected at all.

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Reply #2 on: November 20, 2007, 11:25:14 AM

If Quantum Leap was that show with Scott Bakula doing time travel, then I may have to watch the updated version. 

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Reply #3 on: November 20, 2007, 12:04:03 PM

Never watched Quantam Leap, but I've been enjoying Journeyman. I haven't watched last night's episode, but last week's revelation about Livia's origin was not something I expected at all.

SHHHH! i'm only up to ep3!

If Quantum Leap was that show with Scott Bakula doing time travel, then I may have to watch the updated version. 

The same.

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Reply #4 on: November 20, 2007, 12:04:39 PM

It gets better. They are building the show very slowly, which means the writer's strike may KILL the show completely. But it's worth sticking with.

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Reply #5 on: November 20, 2007, 12:05:16 PM

I was afraid this would suck when I saw who was starring. Maybe I'll have to get up to speed. Are they doing episode replays on NBC.com?

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Reply #6 on: November 20, 2007, 12:06:53 PM

I was afraid this would suck when I saw who was starring. Maybe I'll have to get up to speed. Are they doing episode replays on NBC.com?

Kevin McKidd was EXCELLENT in Rome.

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Reply #7 on: November 20, 2007, 12:07:59 PM

Way to answer the question, champ.  ACK!

Edit: Looks like they have ep 5-9 on NBC.com.
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Reply #8 on: November 20, 2007, 12:09:30 PM

I was afraid this would suck when I saw who was starring. Maybe I'll have to get up to speed. Are they doing episode replays on NBC.com?

Kevin McKidd was EXCELLENT in Rome.

He looks vaguely like Anthony Michael Hall (he's on Dead Zone, isn't he?), but maybe I've not been paying enough attention to the previews.

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Reply #9 on: November 20, 2007, 12:13:53 PM





Close enough, I suppose.

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Reply #10 on: November 20, 2007, 02:27:53 PM

Yeah this is a great show.  I'm fully expecting it to die a horrible death since good Sci Fi never lasts long.   I liked that they finally started showing him disappearing, but worked it in in such a way that it was meaningul, rather than just a "oh, look special effect moment."  It's also not being overused in that every time he jumps you see it.

If Quantum Leap was that show with Scott Bakula doing time travel, then I may have to watch the updated version. 

It was.  The twists here are:
1) He's not a scientist, just a random guy who happens to start 'jumping' through time.
2) It's completely random when it happens, and he keeps jumping back to 'current' time, (apparently current time + however long he was in the past.. think Bill & Ted)  Hooray for home angst.
3) He follows one person each week, showing up at random points in their lives.  For example, when they're 10 years old, as a teen, as an early 20 something.  His 'job' appears to be fixing their lives/ keeping them alive at key points in their lives.

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Reply #11 on: November 20, 2007, 03:16:52 PM

Well, you just made it alot more appealing to me Merusk.

I'll be sure to check it out at some point in the near future.

OR DISTANT PAST.

 Ohhhhh, I see.
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Reply #12 on: November 20, 2007, 05:00:50 PM

Very similar to the book, The Time Traveler's Wife. I think they stole it, actually.

Excellent book, haven't seen the show yet.

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Reply #13 on: November 20, 2007, 10:36:49 PM

The first few episodes of the show were fucking AWFUL, and if there were anything else on mondays at 9, I would've watched it.  It's starting to get alot better now though, I'm looking forward to see where it's going.

It's no quantum leap though, in QL the protagonist had some urgency to get his shit done - help enough people and finally get back to his own body, and if he didn't help someone, tough shit, stuck in that body forever, hope you enjoy being a moderately attractive farmers daughter, bitch.

If this guy doesn't do his job..so fucking what?  That person's life is ruined, he jumps back home and everything is just fine, aside from some guilt.  Hardly a plot device to keep you on the edge of your seat.
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Reply #14 on: November 20, 2007, 11:35:12 PM

To me, the bigger problem was that it is basically turning his life to shit. This new power causes him to lose his kid at a street fair, jeopardizes his marriage, seems to be costing him his job, and now is getting him in hot water with the government. There's basically no upside at all.

Mythology developing way too slow, too. But we're still watching it every week. Reaper and others fell by the wayside a while ago.
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Reply #15 on: November 21, 2007, 01:03:56 AM

The two shows I miss the most right now are Hustle and Mad Men, both on AMC.  We just switched from TWC to AT&T Uverse and I lost the DVR on the main box, really bums me out.

Hustle is absolutely amazing if you're a fan of the con, think of it as the The Sting, but sans Redford and an hour a week. Oh, and with brits  awesome, for real
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Reply #16 on: November 21, 2007, 03:58:09 AM

To me, the bigger problem was that it is basically turning his life to shit. This new power causes him to lose his kid at a street fair, jeopardizes his marriage, seems to be costing him his job, and now is getting him in hot water with the government. There's basically no upside at all.

Welcome to post-modern Sci-Fi?  BSG, DS9, hell even the latest Dr. Who had a sense of 'darkness and cynicism' rather than the 'hope and promise' themes of yesteryear.  I gave up raging at the 'science makes your life shit!' trend a while ago. 


ed: It occured to me 'cynicism' was what I was going for rather than 'angst.'
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Reply #17 on: November 21, 2007, 07:48:49 AM

To me, the bigger problem was that it is basically turning his life to shit. This new power causes him to lose his kid at a street fair, jeopardizes his marriage, seems to be costing him his job, and now is getting him in hot water with the government. There's basically no upside at all.

Mythology developing way too slow, too. But we're still watching it every week. Reaper and others fell by the wayside a while ago.

I actually thought the "turning my life to shit" thing was a good touch. It felt very naturalistic, though I think he probably could have been smarter about some of the choices he made. And they have shown some upside, such as being able to watch the Nixon stuff, or getting a glimpse at his younger self and getting to drive his brother's car when it was cherry. Or that whole feeling of helping people.

Granted, it's not all riches and blowjobs, but with the kind of thing happening to him, I can't imagine there being a whole helluva lot of upside, period. Hey, I'm driving, hey, I'm in 1970 with no shoes, hey I'm back in the present and my car is in the bay.

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Reply #18 on: November 21, 2007, 10:38:05 AM

It felt much worse until his wife started believing him. His having at least one person in his corner was really important to the show not seeming just like some obscure form of torture.
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Reply #19 on: November 21, 2007, 11:20:20 AM

It felt much worse until his wife started believing him. His having at least one person in his corner was really important to the show not seeming just like some obscure form of torture.

That would've made for a great finally where he gets fed up and just lets people die.
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Reply #20 on: November 21, 2007, 12:03:04 PM

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Reply #21 on: November 26, 2007, 07:34:07 AM

Well, i'm officially out of episodes.

I need more.

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Reply #22 on: November 26, 2007, 07:46:05 AM

The latest news is that NBC may not show episode 12 which is the season/series finale.

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Reply #23 on: November 26, 2007, 07:48:08 AM

The latest news is that NBC may not show episode 12 which is the season/series finale.

12??? I have only seen 9, WOOO HOOO!

I'll be sad if this series ends.

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Reply #24 on: November 26, 2007, 09:09:38 AM

The latest news is that NBC may not show episode 12 which is the season/series finale.

Cockgobbling twats. This show deserves a full season.

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Reply #25 on: November 27, 2007, 06:16:56 AM

The two shows I miss the most right now are Hustle and Mad Men, both on AMC.  We just switched from TWC to AT&T Uverse and I lost the DVR on the main box, really bums me out.

Hustle is absolutely amazing if you're a fan of the con, think of it as the The Sting, but sans Redford and an hour a week. Oh, and with brits  awesome, for real

You forgot to mention that without Redford it's about 1/3rd as entertaining and the cons aren't NEARLY as fulfilling. Also, the show seemed to have a case of the uglies.
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Reply #26 on: November 27, 2007, 11:02:47 AM

Very cool link.
Journeyman Time line.

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Reply #27 on: November 30, 2007, 02:31:22 PM

Well, I do enjoy this show...in a very specific way. Basically I'm watching o see how much more fail can it be.
It has the most non-appealing characters from well, entire television. None of them is really likable and they all act like retards 100% of their screen time.
It's also 8 of 12 episodes and tachyon-professor arc didn't moved an inch.
Not to mention - he has time travel abailities and all he goes is bloody San Francisco and if that wasn't enough of an insult, he only goes no farther than 30 years (not enough budget or what?).

You could, for shit and giggles try to compare it Doctor Who, I mean try compare, because you cannot make any serious comparsion between the two.
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Reply #28 on: November 30, 2007, 06:14:46 PM

Well, I do enjoy this show...in a very specific way. Basically I'm watching o see how much more fail can it be.
It has the most non-appealing characters from well, entire television. None of them is really likable and they all act like retards 100% of their screen time.
It's also 8 of 12 episodes and tachyon-professor arc didn't moved an inch.
Not to mention - he has time travel abailities and all he goes is bloody San Francisco and if that wasn't enough of an insult, he only goes no farther than 30 years (not enough budget or what?).

You could, for shit and giggles try to compare it Doctor Who, I mean try compare, because you cannot make any serious comparsion between the two.

Now, a couple things.

1. never watched the show, no time  but may on dvd, certainly curious.

2. Way to be nit-picky.  Never leaving san fran? Not travelling more than 30 years?  This show is clearly NOT dr who, nor should it be.  The show is very obviously setting certain guidelines and rules for time travel specific to its own universe, this is fine.  Just because he isn't fighting dinosaurs with samurai swords does not mean it wasnt in the budget or that the lack therof makes for bad tv.   Comments on acting fine but statements like the above are why so many writers are afraid to try new things.

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Reply #29 on: December 02, 2007, 02:28:14 AM

Well, I do enjoy this show...in a very specific way. Basically I'm watching o see how much more fail can it be.
It has the most non-appealing characters from well, entire television. None of them is really likable and they all act like retards 100% of their screen time.
It's also 8 of 12 episodes and tachyon-professor arc didn't moved an inch.
Not to mention - he has time travel abailities and all he goes is bloody San Francisco and if that wasn't enough of an insult, he only goes no farther than 30 years (not enough budget or what?).

You could, for shit and giggles try to compare it Doctor Who, I mean try compare, because you cannot make any serious comparsion between the two.


Kinda sounds like your trying to write your own show instead of sitting back and enjoying the show they are presenting to you. Same with everyone else voicing displeasure about what they think is wrong with it. :)

Relax enjoy what they give you. Stop rewriting it to fit your desires.

Really like the show enjoy it for what it is, find all the actors appealing.

Really want the show to stick around for multiple seasons. Enjoy the region its cast in very much.

Yes, I'm prolly defending it to much and not being objective about it, but its really a Top3 show for me this season. Love the way its filmed very beautiful, knowning nothing about filming I like how its very sharp but also soft image,.....compared to the other show "life" very sharp crips film but not as warm tones Life comes across as very sharp images.
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Reply #30 on: December 03, 2007, 09:06:16 AM

Journeyman and Doctor Who have one thing in common. Time travel is involved in the stories. Other than that, they are so totally far apart on the scale that comparing the two is silly. Sounds like you hate the show, so please stop watching.

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Reply #31 on: December 03, 2007, 09:23:40 AM

Well, I do enjoy this show...in a very specific way. Basically I'm watching o see how much more fail can it be.
It has the most non-appealing characters from well, entire television. None of them is really likable and they all act like retards 100% of their screen time.
It's also 8 of 12 episodes and tachyon-professor arc didn't moved an inch.
Not to mention - he has time travel abailities and all he goes is bloody San Francisco and if that wasn't enough of an insult, he only goes no farther than 30 years (not enough budget or what?).

You could, for shit and giggles try to compare it Doctor Who, I mean try compare, because you cannot make any serious comparsion between the two.

Responses: "Yet", and "So far". You must have HATED LOST.

There is no comparison between this and The Dr.

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Reply #32 on: December 06, 2007, 07:33:05 AM

Journeyman and Doctor Who have one thing in common. Time travel is involved in the stories. Other than that, they are so totally far apart on the scale that comparing the two is silly. Sounds like you hate the show, so please stop watching.

I don't hate it, it's far beyond that.
I'm amused how many and how badly you can fuck things up.

Also, are real life Americans as dumb as portrayed in this series? All the inter-character drama it has could be resolved by 30min of honest talk and I really loved the disappearance on board of an airplane arc. The guy is seen entering bloody plane, disappears mid flight and all the authorities do is ban him from flying? I'm actually inclined that would be reaction IRL, thus the question.
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Reply #33 on: December 06, 2007, 11:35:52 AM

Some people, Americans or otherwise, are just that pigheaded and stubborn.

As for not being able to fly as opposed to anything else, I think that'd be a first step.

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Reply #34 on: December 07, 2007, 06:16:50 AM

Journeyman and Doctor Who have one thing in common. Time travel is involved in the stories. Other than that, they are so totally far apart on the scale that comparing the two is silly. Sounds like you hate the show, so please stop watching.

I don't hate it, it's far beyond that.
I'm amused how many and how badly you can fuck things up.

Also, are real life Americans as dumb as portrayed in this series? All the inter-character drama it has could be resolved by 30min of honest talk and I really loved the disappearance on board of an airplane arc. The guy is seen entering bloody plane, disappears mid flight and all the authorities do is ban him from flying? I'm actually inclined that would be reaction IRL, thus the question.

How many episodes have you watched?

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