Super Mario Galaxy is the SMB3 of 3D platforming

[Yegolev]

Before you change your avatar, I have to ask if the one with the unibrow is the top.  I mean, the one with the pink shirt does have that semi-surprised look on his face but I'm not sure what's up with unibrow's face there.  I bet there's a "second shooter", if you know what I mean.

The tophats are not meant to be funny.  They are very serious.









OK.  Really, I couldn't explain them if I wanted to.  At this point, it's just my schtick, like Henny Youngmans' violin.

[geldonyetich2]

The tophats are not meant to be funny.  They are very serious.

I know they make me shudder. 
He's out there somewhere... watching... plotting his way to the top of a politics forum...

[RUiN 427]

sorry i'm new

[HAMMER FRENZY]

Tim and Eric are funny as hell and I like them a lot. But that picture is muy ugly. Use a picture of Chippy... Where's my chippy?

[schild]

Ok. Now that's funny.

[RUiN 427]

so anyway like i was saying, shouldn't i have been playing 3d platformers this way 5 years ago?

[HAMMER FRENZY]

It is funny when people expect someone to know who Casey Tatum is. That is pretty random ass stuff. I am glad someone else likes that stuff though cause I was getting lonely laughing alone.

And no, that is why we are playing them now.

[Yegolev]

The tophats are not meant to be funny.  They are very serious.

I know they make me shudder. 
He's out there somewhere... watching... plotting his way to the top of a politics forum...

Fortunately, I don't read the local Politics forum.

The tophats weren't funny the first time I explained them, and they won't be any more funny if I explained them now.  It's Comedy Law: explained jokes are not funny.

The new avatar, indeed, is hilarious even though I have no idea who Tim and Eric are.  It stands on its own as a funny picture.

Also, yes, RUiN, you and I should have gotten this years ago as Mario 128 instead of Super Mario Watersports.  Better late than never, I suppose.  The interesting thing to me is how no one else took up the 3D-platformer slack in this area, unless you want to count Ratchet & Clank but I feel that's a different subgenre.

[geldonyetich2]

The new avatar, indeed, is hilarious even though I have no idea who Tim and Eric are.  It stands on its own as a funny picture.

Merry Christmas!

[schild]

SOTC did a pretty god job picking up the platformer slack even if it went towards the ultra realistic epic design instead of the nintendo-flavored-too-sugary-rehash design. (not a knock, simply nintendo's stylings as of late short of Twilight Princess).

[HAMMER FRENZY]

I really like SOTC a lot but I don't think it has great "platforming" per se. It is a very awesome idea that was pretty decently done, but the concept and art and presentation are what stand out for me. The controls were pretty average.

[schild]

Climbing on and jumping around the monsters and timing some of that shit wasn't platforming? What the fuck was I playing?

[HAMMER FRENZY]

Sure it was platforming, but it wasn't like it was spectacularly done. It was cool and really fun but there was some chop in there and you know it. I am not knocking it, cause I love that game, but the platforming in it is not super fantastic or anything. It was very original though, so that is very cool.

[schild]

I thought it was super fantastic. That game was crafted by gods. I didn't care about the "chop" if you're talking about slowdown.

[RUiN 427]

Don't get me wrong I love the play mechanics and the minigame galaxies (question box galaxies) but there doesn't seem to be anything other than the "star" that couldn't be done on any other system.

after all it is a wii, not exactly pushing the boundaries of console capabilities here.

as far as the SMB3 comparison, that kind of Mario game exists in NEW super mario bros. I would be content if that kind of Mario continues that way, on that kind of console. The better comparison is more of an analogy, Galaxy is to Mario 64 as SMB3 is to SMB. The wii iteration of Mario should have been more of a leap like jumping to Mario 64 from Super Mario World. I'm not saying "4th dimension platformer" but maybe add some portals and some Little Big Planet style multiplayer would be nice.

[Yegolev]

I'm calling subgenre here, but ultimately agree with schild.  Same as I would call R&C a 3D platformer while not trying to tie it very closely with Mario.  I consider God of War to be a platformer.  SotC would count as well, and it had the imagination in it to be a good citation.  Still, it has more in common with the Mario64-era platforming than the new SMG-era stuff that is unfolding on my TV now.  SotC was more simple as far as the platforming mechanics go, and while it was awesome you were doing a lot of the same moves for each boss.  In R&C the platforming is basically hopping over obstacles/holes and dodging weapons fire, with some grind-rail and gravity-boots action sprinkled in.  The shit I'm doing in SMG has a larger variance: compare the normal platforming worlds with the spherical no-black-hole worlds and even the one where you're rolling a huge ball around.  It feels like it's more about imaginative interpretations of the core jump-on-shit mechanic, like SMW was.

SMG could have been done elsewhere, technically.  But it wasn't.

[schild]

SMG could have been done elsewhere, technically.  But it wasn't.

Do I get the blame poor people and the Gamecube here? I love blaming poor people and the Gamecube.

[Yegolev]

SMG could have been done elsewhere, technically.  But it wasn't.

Do I get the blame poor people and the Gamecube here? I love blaming poor people and the Gamecube.

You can blame unimaginative game designers.  Blaming the Cube also blames them, so that's cool.  Like how I blame anyone who ever worked on any game ever for how there's not a modern X-COM ripoff.

[schild]

You know, about XCom Ripoffs.

I keep hoping upon hope that someone rips stuff off of the NISA stuff and adds item worlds and such to their RPGs, but they seem to be in full tilt with only ripping off FFT. That's some pretty bad failing right there. I don't understand some parts of this industry.

[RUiN 427]

The shit I'm doing in SMG has a larger variance: compare the normal platforming worlds with the spherical no-black-hole worlds and even the one where you're rolling a huge ball around.  It feels like it's more about imaginative interpretations of the core jump-on-shit mechanic, like SMW was.

yes SMG gets a 10 out of 10 for the variety catagory. They packaged and presented a wealth of game mechanics in such a way that it never felt overwhelming annoying or gimmicky. They even go as far as to seperate them as thier own galaxies that you can easily return to for more, manta ray surfing, or pod slinging just for kicks.

[MrHat]

This makes me wonder, will we have enough buttons for super smash bros?

[HAMMER FRENZY]

SB is designed for the GC controller, but you can opt to use Stoic-Charles mode if you like, or even single side ways wii-mote

[HaemishM]

The new avatar, indeed, is hilarious even though I have no idea who Tim and Eric are.  It stands on its own as a funny picture.

Merry Christmas!

I seriously just do not get that shit at all.

[HAMMER FRENZY]

Oh man I love that show...Ja ja ja...

[RUiN 427]

The new avatar, indeed, is hilarious even though I have no idea who Tim and Eric are.  It stands on its own as a funny picture.

Merry Christmas!

I seriously just do not get that shit at all.

surreal tangent comedy, whats not to get?

[stu]

I want to see them do their own 2girls1cup. Well, not really, but I'm sure it would be good. 

[Strazos]

Tim and Eric need to die in a fire, along with most of the crap left on Adult Swim.

[stu]

The Brule Report skits are hilarious!

[voodoolily]

omg I know I am a cunt but for the love of god use puncutation and capitalize the beginning of sentences.

[Yegolev]

The new avatar, indeed, is hilarious even though I have no idea who Tim and Eric are.  It stands on its own as a funny picture.

Merry Christmas!

Looks like Señor TiVo has some work to do.

[Prospero]

What the fuck was that? People watch that and derive pleasure from it?!?!?

[geldonyetich2]

Tim and Eric Awesome Show Great Job (that's the name of the program) requires a certain suspension of sanity to properly appreciate it.  That's why it's made the Adult Swim lineup.  A lot of their viewers toke while watching... some of them (like myself) come adequately weird without external substances.

[Nerf]

I'm shocked it's still on the air, that and Saul of the Molemen, Tom goes to the Mayor, wtf?
Moral Oral, Metaloclypse, Robot Chicken = Funny

This live action shoestring budget unfunny bullshit?  I hope someone at Williams Street gets punched in the cock for greenlighting it.  Hell, I'm hoping I can win one of those "producer for a day" promos they run every once a while, just so I can get flown out there to lay down some righteous judgement on whomevers idea it was to put them on the air.

Also: BRING BACK NEW EPISODES OF BLEACH YOU WORTHLESS SONS OF WHORES! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR LIKE TWO FUCKING MONTHS TO SEE WHAT ICHIGOS GODDAMN BANKAI IS, AT THIS POINT IT HAD BETTER BE A FUCKING HOT NAKED ASIAN GIRL WHO ACTUALLY POPS OUT OF THE TV AND FELLATES ME ON COMMAND!

[Yegolev]

Wondershowzen is very notfunny.  Tom Goes to the Mayor is very notfunny.  I'll have to see how this Awesome Show falls out.

Frisky Dingo is incredibly funny despite the fact that I don't know what the fuck is going on.  Metalocalypse is very funny and I do know what the fuck is going on.

[schild]

3 words: Perfect Hair Forever.