Super Mario Galaxy is the SMB3 of 3D platforming

[Litigator]

Schild told me this is a game for kids about shooting chubby stars, but I am absolutely spellbound. Instant classic. There are just very few games that are this much fun; the only thing this year that has come close to being this cool is Portal, and these two games clearly represent a really cool new trend of puzzle mechanics arising out of the game physics. 

Last night, I played a level that is a boss battle against a giant spider. The fight takes place in a giant spiderweb, and you stick Mario into the Web, and then you use the wiimote to pull the webbing back to shoot Mario at the spider like a slingshot. The webbing had been introduced a little bit earlier, so it was intuitive what to do, and it wasn't until I'd beat the boss that I realized I had never seen anything quite like that in a game before. The slingshot device was also elaborated on in a very difficult bonus level, where you use them to shoot Mario through moving fields of obstacles.

Later on, there was a level where Mario was in a bubble and I had to use the Wiimote to control the wind to navigate him through a minefield. Both SMG and Portal both have a really good concept of design and progression, where they show you a mechanic and what you can do with it, and then expand on that concept with increasingly complex applications.  I'm really looking forward to seeing what else this game has to offer

[sigil]

I'll second the vote. I haven't had the chance to play it as much as i would like but everything I've seen has been exceptional

[Big Gulp]

The first game that made me thankful for owning a Wii.   It's like returning to what made Super Mario World on the SNES so great.

[Margalis]

Countdown to Schild appearing and saying it sucks...3...2...1...

[sigil]

Countdown to Schild appearing and saying it sucks...3...2...1...

Actually he just said he had zero interest in it on the currently playing thread.


I'll throw a recommendation  for Zak and Wiki as  well.

[Big Gulp]

Actually he just said he had zero interest in it on the currently playing thread.

True story:

At the Phoenix shindig I expressed some interest in seeing the Wii in action since I'd never played it before.  Schild wouldn't turn it on because that would break his streak of leaving the Wii as an inert piece of white plastic.

Lesson:

Schild is a stubborn jackass.   

[schild]

Actually he just said he had zero interest in it on the currently playing thread.

True story:

At the Phoenix shindig I expressed some interest in seeing the Wii in action since I'd never played it before.  Schild wouldn't turn it on because that would break his streak of leaving the Wii as an inert piece of white plastic.

Lesson:

Schild is a stubborn jackass.   

Yep, don't leave out that pretty much everyone else from Phoenix agreed with me. I think Hammer Frenzy didn't. But he likes World Heroes.

[Margalis]

I've heard nothing but good things about Zack and Wiki. Too bad the name is so retarded.

[schild]

I've heard nothing but good things about Zack and Wiki. Too bad the name is so retarded.

I skipped on it ONLY because I absolutely hated the character designs and I just wasn't in the mood for a point and click puzzler. When I get in the mood for that, I'd got all the Sam & Max Episodes on my PC here.

[Fabricated]

Played it, cute platformer with waggle. Definitely not SMB3 unless you've suffered a massive headwound.

[sigil]

you finish already?

[Yegolev]

Yep, don't leave out that pretty much everyone else from Phoenix agreed with me.

I have zero interest in discouraging you from being a stubborn jackass.  If you do power on the Wii at all, I'll pour one on the curb.

[HAMMER FRENZY]

Schild: You retard, Mario Galaxy actually is really good. Really though, what is up with that World Hero's comment? You sound stupider everyday. 

[schild]

Schild: You retard, Mario Galaxy actually is really good. Really though, what is up with that World Hero's comment? You sound stupider everyday. 

Really Good isn't enough for Mario. So sorry.

[HAMMER FRENZY]

With all your bitching and complaining I am surprised you get around to playing games at all. The game owns ass. It is as simple as that, if you are not going to play it and enjoy what is obviously a good game, why would you take it upon yourself to talk smack about it and make yourself look stupid. It doesn't in any way seem like you have some sort of insight about the game or some valid reason to dislike it. It seems like you talked so much crap about the Wii and how it will not have good games, and when good games come out for it you feel you have to talk smack to save face. Just makes you come off like a lame ass Schild. 

And when World Hero's Gorgeous comes out, your not allowed to play. Nay sayer.   

[schild]

What am I talking smack about? It's not SMB3 by any stretch and it's definitely another 3D Mario. That's all it comes down to. And that's not good enough. If you really like 3D Mario, than I guess it owns ass. Or whatever. Standard Issue 3D Mario is pretty much my least favorite iteration of any of the long running Nintendo Series. Well, really all the Nintendo stuff has been cheapened by going 3D. But that's another thing altogether.

[HAMMER FRENZY]

that is BS cause when they made another 2D Mario you bitched about that too. It shouldn't matter if it is a Mario game or not. It is a fantastic fucking game and you should at least give it credit for that. It could be any random BS character and he game is still damn fun, entertaining and well done. You blowing it off cause it doesn't fit some BS Mario criteria that you pulled out of your ass just makes you sound like a jackass. Besides, how would you know it doesn't contain the best 3d platforming ever? What if its 3d platforming is in fact just as good as Mario 3's best 2d platforming? Maybe you should play it, cause really, if you are wrong, the only person missing out is you.   

[schild]

How did I pull it out of my ass? I grew up with Mario. When he went 3D, and I was still reasonably young when this happened, he began to suck major dick. It isn't some new revelation. I don't know what sort of "BS Mario Criteria" you're talking about.

Also, I'm not wrong, having PLAYED IT.

I don't know why you feel the need to defend Mario. It's Mario, he doesn't need defense.

[HAMMER FRENZY]

I am not defending Mario. I am defending good games from dumb people. Really, your opinions on games are fucking terrible. So bad to the point that on the occasions when I do agree with you, I actually feel bad. Mario going 3d didn't suck in the slightest. Mario 64 was fucking amazing. At the time nothing was that good. This all goes back to the same point you always seem stuck at. Games that you don't like don't always suck. Sometimes they are just no for you. You CAN dislike a good game. You can dislike a great game. But talking shit and blowing them off, and trying to come off like you have some valid reason to dislike for any other reason other than personal taste just really devalues your opinions on those games.

[Rasix]

Schild: You retard, Mario Galaxy actually is really good. Really though, what is up with that World Hero's comment? You sound stupider everyday. 

Really Good isn't enough for Mario. So sorry.

Really Good is good enough for anything. 

So, two more games before I'm obligated to buy a Wii.   

[schild]

Really Good is good enough for anything. 

Not for a game with a waggle wand. Killer Apps or Bust for me. That fucker is on life support.

(Or something that I'm OCD about, I want to play Harvest Moon with Waggle, heh. And a few other oddities.)

[OcellotJenkins]

It's not SMB3 by any stretch...

Bullshit.  Galaxies is every bit as FUN as SMB3 was back in '90.  That is really what games like this come down to, fun.  And the consensus is that Galaxies expands on Mario 64 as much or more than SMB3 expanded on its predecessors.  Truly an amazing game.     

[Sky]

Schild + SMB3 = WUA + UO

[Margalis]

I love how he says "killer apps or bust" and the list of games he wants includes Kane & Lynch, Assassin's Creed and WW2 Shooter #2349.

Also calling it "standard issue 3D Mario" is kind of silly given that there have only been 2 3D Mario games and they weren't that similar.

[schild]

I love how he says "killer apps or bust" and the list of games he wants includes Kane & Lynch, Assassin's Creed and WW2 Shooter #2349.

Don't be an asshole. You know I meant on the Wii. And COD4 is very NOT WWII shooter 2349, try fucking playing it and the MP.

Schild + SMB3 = WUA + UO

More like Schild + Deus Ex or Planescape = WUA + UO. All I'm asking for out of Nintendo at the end of the day is they stop with this waggle shit and put a controller driven hard mode in their fucking kiddy games.

[HaemishM]

So essentially, you want Nintendo to abandon its entire business strategy, AND the main thing that differentiates their console from others?

Check.

[schild]

So essentially, you want Nintendo to abandon its entire business strategy, AND the main thing that differentiates their console from others?

Check.

Wrong again. You fuckers have trouble reading. GIVE US THE OPTION is what I'm saying and have always said. If COD4 (WWII Shooter #2349...oh wait, modern combat) can give us hardcore mode and multiple difficulties with varying AI, surely Nintendo can get their shit together on that front also. After all, if anyone deserves to be called AAA, it's the Nintendo R&D groups.

[OcellotJenkins]

All I'm asking for out of Nintendo at the end of the day is they stop with this waggle shit and put a controller driven hard mode in their fucking kiddy games.

I understand the waggle complaint with games such as Mario vs. Sonic Olympics where you wear your arms out with repetitive motions.  With Galaxies, from what I can tell having gotten 12 or so stars, the only waggling involved is one simple flick of the wrist to spin.  My hands are much more relaxed playing this game than with a standard controller.  I think you are just arguing for the sake of arguing on this one.   

[schild]

My hands are much more relaxed playing this game than with a standard controller.

I think it's great you find that thing comfortable.

I think you are just arguing for the sake of arguing on this one.   

You mean Hammer Frenzy? Until his dumbass post, I was completely amicable.

[HAMMER FRENZY]

Man Schild you really can't be this naive. You are asking for all this hardcore extra tough killer mode option for people who are really good or don't want to play using an alternate input method, but neither of those options are viable options. Having a hard mode for a small minority is just not something most companies would bust their asses to achieve. You really make it seem like it is an easy fix, but is is not. You told me some BS in IM about , oh they can add hard levels to any Mario game in a month and that is BS and you know it. Cause if they had a team dedicated to making the caliber or levels needed to satisfy that tiny crowd that needs ultra complicated levels without abusing lame difficulty cranking level design options, it would take more than a month and cost more money. For who you? Me? Maybe like 5 people on this whole site? It is not worth the time or effort. And I believe you'd be the first to bitch when the levels were hard enough or hard cause they were poorly made or lame.

What it needs is an editor to shut you up. Make your own silly ass levels. 

[schild]

Man Schild you really can't be this naive. You are asking for all this hardcore extra tough killer mode option for people who are really good or don't want to play using an alternate input method, but neither of those options are viable options. Having a hard mode for a small minority is just not something most companies would bust their asses to achieve. You really make it seem like it is an easy fix, but is is not. You told me some BS in IM about , oh they can add hard levels to any Mario game in a month and that is BS and you know it. Cause if they had a team dedicated to making the caliber or levels needed to satisfy that tiny crowd that needs ultra complicated levels without abusing lame difficulty cranking level design options, it would take more than a month and cost more money. For who you? Me? Maybe like 5 people on this whole site? It is not worth the time or effort. And I believe you'd be the first to bitch when the levels were hard enough or hard cause they were poorly made or lame.

What it needs is an editor to shut you up. Make your own silly ass levels. 

What the fuck are you babbling about? What action/fps/platformer other than Mario (and I think Ratchet and Sly) doesn't have such options? You're a silly fucker, and also the reason this thread devolved into absolute madness.

[HaemishM]

So essentially, you want Nintendo to abandon its entire business strategy, AND the main thing that differentiates their console from others?

Check.

Wrong again. You fuckers have trouble reading. GIVE US THE OPTION is what I'm saying and have always said. If COD4 (WWII Shooter #2349...oh wait, modern combat) can give us hardcore mode and multiple difficulties with varying AI, surely Nintendo can get their shit together on that front also. After all, if anyone deserves to be called AAA, it's the Nintendo R&D groups.

While I have no problem with some games adding the option for non-waggle controls (especially games like Prince of Persia which were just using controller buttons mapped to waggles), I think your off your rocker with the hardcore mode. Nintendo has said repeatedly that this system is not made for hardcore gamers. So why add hardcore modes to a system that is not made for hardcore gamers? It's the same idea that fucked up FIFA 08 on the Wii in reverse. They tried to dumb down the gameplay to attract non-hardcore players to the game, but lost the things that made fans of the FIFA series fans in the first place, like the manager mode.

It's trying to play to too many audiences with diametrically opposed desires.

[Yegolev]

Hey, don't be dragging Ratchet & Clank into this.

[schild]

Hey, don't be dragging Ratchet & Clank into this.

No multiplayer :( :(

[Yegolev]

Does SMB3 have multiplayer?