Call of Duty 4

[schild]

Comes out this week.

Given Hardcore mode (no hud, friendly fire, no clip warnings, no player names, etc) makes War, well, WAR then should we run a server? Are enough people picking this up? Call of Duty is pretty much my favorite thing ever. So uhhhhhh. Anyone?

I'm getting it for PC btw, obviously.

[Trippy]

I never even finished CoD 2. On the other hand I played a lot of BF2 when it first came out so I'll probably give CoD 4 a try.

[NiX]

I totally forgot it was going to be on PC. We will see. With Assassin's Creed and Rock Band dropping so close together.. it's a tight one. But, my birthday is this month so maybe I can weasel it out of family.

[SnakeCharmer]

Bah.

Was hoping this was a 360 thread for CoD4....

Doesn't it come out today?

[bhodi]

Comes out this week.

Given Hardcore mode (no hud, friendly fire, no clip warnings, no player names, etc) makes War, well, WAR then should we run a server? Are enough people picking this up? Call of Duty is pretty much my favorite thing ever. So uhhhhhh. Anyone?

I'm getting it for PC btw, obviously.

No. Take away names / FF Hud and I become the friendly fire champion. My target acquisition skills are unparalleled, my target identification, not so much. I'm pretty much an 'anything that moves' kind of guy.

[schild]

Well I mean, our server wouldn't have to always be hardcore mode. I'm just saying that it sounds fun as hell. It turns into a communications/tactical battle and that interests me KEENLY.

[Nebu]

I like CoD, but BF1942 i a much better pvp type game.  Any reason that you prefer CoD to BF1942 beyond the "EA is teh debil"?

[NiX]

CoD4 is new?

[Nebu]

CoD4 is new?

I must be immune to "new shiny".  I really like the BF 1942 mechanics and find CoD to be a nicely scripted single player game, but lacking in the multiplayer department. 

[Sky]

That hardcore mode sounds kinda like BF1942. For league matches, names were pulled in very close, so you had to go by uniform and sound more than 10yds out. I played by sound a lot and had to be careful about weapon looters...I'd hear the harsher 'chunk' of the german SMG and woops...an american had grabbed one.

I, too, would be more interested in a BF1942-style game since apparently DICE has no plans for making any more like that.

I get so tired of 'normal' multiplayer, that's why I'm never on TF2. Lack of map variety or really much interesting gameplay.

[MrHat]

Hrm.  Interesting.  Shame I don't have the $$ for another FPS atm.  God, I'm all gamed out :(

[Sky]

Yeah, I'm not only not a fan of the CoD franchise, my fps $ goes to Crysis. I'm already overspent from buying TF2

[Morfiend]

My friend who is a FPS nut said he really really enjoyed the demo/beta of this. He is pushing every one to buy it. I dont think I have ever played a CoD game before, since I really dont like WW2 games. But considering this is modern war, there is a good chance Ill buy it.

But jesus, enough games coming out? Crysis, Assassins Creed, Mass Effect, The Witcher, Hellgate. What the hell am I going to do?

[MrHat]

I know.  I'm in a panic today!  I don't even have enough time to play the loottastic one.

[Trippy]

I can't even get the game installed. Nice going there Activison. Buyer beware.

[schild]

What error are you getting? I got one the first time I put it in and then I just clickied the installer manually. Then it worked.

[Trippy]

It can't copy iw_00.iwd from the DVD. Actually it can't copy a ton of crap from the DVD but that's where it gets stuck on first.

[schild]

Ok, well that sounds like an easy solution. Just get another copy or pirate it and use the key in your game? I bet the disc still works as a bootable. But maybe not.

[taolurker]

Did you have the demo installed? Maybe that's what's causing this?

I was actually talking to a friend who had issues installing, and I was gonna search their forums, but I don't think they actually have an official one.

edit

See that posted 45 seconds too soon:
Forum to search?

[Trippy]

Nope no demo installed. I'll try exchanging it for a new disc but I'm pretty sure it's the fucking Macrovision copy protection scheme that's screwing me up.

I'm getting Error 1305 which if you dig hard enough gets you to this page. The nice helpful link about reinstalling InstallShield leads to a 404 page on the Macrovision site.

There's some other advice for install problems such as:

We have found the following to help the game install.

Download Nero DriveSpeed from here. This freeware utility from Nero will allow you to slow your drive speed down, in increments, all the way to 2X. Try setting it to 8X. Some users may have to choose other settings to get optimal results. Your CD-ROM/DVD-ROM must be ATAPI/IDE. SCSI is not supported.

If you receive an ASPI related error message when running Nero DriveSpeed, you may have to update your ASPI layer.
Instructions to check and update your ASPI layer

Set your CD-ROM drive or IDE channels for the CD-ROM to run in PIO mode 1 or a lower setting then it currently is at through BIOS. The exact steps for doing this may differ from motherboard to motherboard. You will need to check with your hardware or system manufacturer for more information on this topic.

Zone Alarm has also been known cause some issues with the installer. If you currently have Zone Alarm installed it is recommended that you uninstall the program, install the game and then you can re-install Zone Alarm on your system.

Windows Defender and Microsoft Office 2007 have been known to cause errors with the installer. These include errors referencing "msvcr80.dll" and "mpShHook.dll." If you currently have either program installed, it is recommended that you uninstall the program, install the game and then you can re-install Windows Defender and/or Microsoft Office 2007 on your system.If you do not want to uninstall these programs you can try installing or re-isntalling Microsoft .Net 2.0. You can get it here. Installing .Net 2.0 has been known to fix this issue without having to uninstall Microsoft Office or Defender.


If the game previously worked then it's more than likely that you have a damaged CD/DVD. You can contact us via phone or through the web to arrange for a replacement.

Crap like slowing down your drive and running in PIO mode (which I tried) suggests that the data is burned on the disc with some seriously fucked up copy protection scheme. There was also this very nice "MASCTRL" process that didn't exit properly when I had to reboot one time which doesn't show up on the process list meaning there's some rootkit shit going on as well.

[Trippy]

See that posted 45 seconds too soon:
Forum to search?[/i]

Those aren't the official boards (there are none).

[schild]

Get the Steam version?

[taolurker]

Well, if I find something that works for my friend I'll let you know... I was only hoping that maybe something on that forum might help, and it did seem there were other people having similar issues.

I had just found this Answer page on the Activision  help page too.

[Trippy]

Yes I linked to that page above. I have been reading the various forums and Help pages and have been trying to install for the last 3 hours. Is your friend getting the same 1305 error?

[Trippy]

All this futzing with my computer has somehow triggered my Windows Activation. Joy.

[schild]

Heh. See, I would've returned it 4 times in that 3 hours. I have absolutely zero patience with making games work. Troubleshooting is just not my cup of tea. Particularly when it's a read/write error. I almost ALWAYS blame the disc. Otherwise, on that third trip, Azureus is doing it's thing in case the disc isn't working... again.

Sounds like you plugged or unplugged a hard drive or CD Rom.

[taolurker]

Yes I linked to that page above. I have been reading the various forums and Help pages and have been trying to install for the last 3 hours. Is your friend getting the same 1305 error?

Yep, he's having the exact same issue as you are.. I happened to be the tech support person who helped him build his machine so I am the first person he calls when having issues.

Something I just told him to do was to try disabling virtual drives through Nero, and try installing again, although I have no idea if that'll work... Are you running any drive emulators? Alcohol/Nero?

[taolurker]

All this futzing with my computer has somehow triggered my Windows Activation. Joy.

I cannot help thee with that.   

[Trippy]

Yes I linked to that page above. I have been reading the various forums and Help pages and have been trying to install for the last 3 hours. Is your friend getting the same 1305 error?

Yep, he's having the exact same issue as you are.. I happened to be the tech support person who helped him build his machine so I am the first person he calls when having issues.

Something I just told him to do was to try disabling virtual drives through Nero, and try installing again, although I have no idea if that'll work... Are you running any drive emulators? Alcohol/Nero?

Nope I don't run that stuff. I've even run in "Diagnostic Mode" (through msconfig) to turn off all non-necessary services/drivers/background tasks and I'm still stuck at that point. I'm going to try to get a new disc but I have a sinking feeling that I bought myself a $50 coaster unless I can convince a peon at Fry's to actually let me get a refund on opened software (which they don't normally allow). I've done it a couple of times before but it's a lot of work.

[taolurker]

Well, that didn't help with his issue either.. Sheesh I hate being the tech support person for all my computer owning friends.

I'll keep yah posted if I find any info, and let me know if the disc swapping does anything.

[Trippy]

All this futzing with my computer has somehow triggered my Windows Activation. Joy.

I cannot help thee with that.   

Fortunately I was able to reactivate over the Internet rather than having to talk to somebody in India who then transfers me back to somebody in the US who then makes me write down a bazillion digit reactivation code that I then try to enter in error free. At least they don't grill you with questions before giving out the reactivation codes (I had to do it once before when I was messing with Boot Camp and Parallels on my Mac which because of the way Parallels work is considered two totally different hardware configurations to Windows).

[Trippy]

Get the Steam version?

As much as I hate Steam I might have to do that. Assuming I can get a refund on this copy. How's the game so far?

[schild]

It's goddamn good is what it is. It's pretty apparent now that Infinity Ward is up there with Valve, Epic, and Free Radical in making good FPS titles. More than good, just plain excellent across the board.

[Morfiend]

Can anyone answer these questions for me:

Does it have coop (Ala Rainbow Six) and does it have a cover system?

[MisterNoisy]

Can anyone answer these questions for me:

Does it have coop (Ala Rainbow Six) and does it have a cover system?

No and not in the sense that R6 or GeoW do.