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Margalis
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I call shenanigans HammerFrenzy, you actually know how to like do moves and stuff. That's actually the first time I've played outside of unlocking characters / colors /etc. Could you tell? 
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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HAMMER FRENZY
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Margalis: Jajaja! Man I had so much fun. Believe it or not, that is most likely the best connection I have had with an opponent in a long while, I was actually landing combos. Man I am so happy you are using Rufus. Fat boy needs some love too. Yeah, I could tell you had not been playing much. It is so different from other SF games but I am really enjoying it. To be honest, you were pretty damn mean with that Gief. You were 360'ing my lame ass between missed links Jajaja!  *spin-spin-spin*  We should really try to play more, I really enjoyed it. How is my Fuerte coming along? Ja ja, man Ooki cries every time I smack him around with El Fuerte. I am really digging him. Anyway, we'll play again soon, and also get some more HDR in as well, cause we were having some fun matches in that as well. Keep up the Rufus love! PS: Dhalsim is a sneaky jerk. PPS: "From this day forward, you and I are AMIGOS!" -El Fuerte
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Ookii
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Rufus is a scrub.
Like Dhalsim.
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HAMMER FRENZY
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Rufus is a scrub.
Like Dhalsim.
What was that? I couldn't hear you over Fuerte's victory screams.
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Cadaverine
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I  El Fuerte. Zippy little bastard just shits up my day. Same with Abel. I'm no master by any stretch, but I take issue with his tossing me around so much. Which is probably my only real complaint about the game. Getting hit out of moves so much.
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Margalis
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I hate everything about him. I hate his character concept, I hate his moveset. He's just dumb.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Dtrain
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I hate everything about him. I hate his character concept, I hate his moveset. He's just dumb.
I have a lot of vague anger as well.
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Hindenburg
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You're all closet minutemen. Fuerte's awesome.
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HAMMER FRENZY
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Fuerte is all about the mix-ups man. He is way fun to play. It just sucks that he is really input heavy. You really have to work for your wins though cause he has more than a few bad match ups and the run-stop-fierce loop is fucking hard as hell to do with any consistency. I usually stick to shorter combos ending with the quesadilla bomb, or the guacamole leg throw. I sometimes end with the dash->sobat->super. Man he is a fun character.
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Samwise
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I play the player matches (non-ranked) so I can play as Dan, and do nothing but dash away from my opponent and use the taunt that makes him shake his ass. And then I destroy them.
Post vid please. That sounds awesome.
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SurfD
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Room-mate just got this for our ps3, been breaking myself in so i thought i would read over this thread. I now have 2 questions: A: Can someone explain this term "shoto" that you people keep using? B: How in holy hell are you supposed to do Chun-li's (or any character with similar charge shit) super / ultra moves? I took one look at the diagram in the manual that explains how you do her ultra / super and just went 
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schild
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A: Can someone explain this term "shoto" that you people keep using? Shotokan. As in, Ryu, Sagat, Dan, Akuma, Ken. D, DF, F +P, etc. B: How in holy hell are you supposed to do Chun-li's (or any character with similar charge shit) super / ultra moves? I took one look at the diagram in the manual that explains how you do her ultra / super and just went  Charge <-, ->, <-, -> +K & Charge <-, ->, <-, -> SK+MK+LK, I assume? What do you mean how do you do it? I don't know how to ask it without just drawing it and sort of staring at the screen hoping for an answer.
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SurfD
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so it is
Charge <- -> <- -> + Kick?
The diagram in the manual seemed to indicate you had to Charge <- Charge -> <- -> +kick
either way, i tried for like half an hour in the test room and couldnt seem to pull it off. (ps3 standard controller)
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schild
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The first one. Charge back about 2 seconds and then fire off the f, b, f quickly hitting kick the same time as forward. Once you do it once you'll be like "ooooooh."
This game is not button masher friendly though if that's a problem.
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Hoax
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I'd like to know what all of you think the best characters are if you don't have a stick. Basically, which ones will you be able to play pretty well even with a standard ps3 controller?
TIA
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Hindenburg
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Guile, Blanka, Chun Li and Honda. I just find charging moves easier to perform without a stick. Even easier if you use your index and middle finger.
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Nhare
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My biggest complaint is how they put in the shortcuts for DP moves. So if you double tap downforward twice and then hit punch, you will throw out a DP even if that was not your intent.
As a Sakura player, I can't count the number of times I've accidentally tossed out an Otoshi while trying to chain Tatsu's with crouch kicks.
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HAMMER FRENZY
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My biggest complaint is how they put in the shortcuts for DP moves. So if you double tap downforward twice and then hit punch, you will throw out a DP even if that was not your intent.
As a Sakura player, I can't count the number of times I've accidentally tossed out an Otoshi while trying to chain Tatsu's with crouch kicks.
Wow that is weird. I can't get an srk(DP) to come out like that at all....
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HAMMER FRENZY
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oooof, that was fun. Good games last night Margalis. That Zangief is coming along nicely. I really want to work on my Guile. I started playing him yesterday and am digging some of his silliness.
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Margalis
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The last time I played was the last time we played...this game just feels so weird to me. Half the time I try to do an air fireball with Akuma I end up doing a ground fireball because I didn't even leave the ground by the time I finished the fireball motion.
The timing of jumps and attacks in this game is much closer to the 3 series than 2, and I never really got into 3 at all. I'll get used to it eventually but right now my brain just doesn't comprehend it.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Ookii
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This is Jorge (Hammer Frenzy at Ooki's house!  ) Yeah the timing on everything is kinda weird. The game is flat out slow until you get the hang of it at which point is is just a little sluggish. I like it, but it is really hard to get used to, especially after playing HD Remix for the past few months.
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Rendakor
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I agree on the sluggish feel; the SF I played the most was Alpha 3, and I always played it with the speed turned all the way up.
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photek
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Been playing since release and doing online matches I am really tired of those Kens. Once in a while you meet a Ruy, Sagat or Zangief, but I found the way to win most of my online matches and defeat Ken though. Play as Ken 
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Dtrain
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Bah, Ken isn't anything special in SFIV.
Stay with your favorite character, spend some time in training mode perfecting your most damaging combo, and then bait Ken into throwing his flaming SRK, and punish. Punish them over and over again, and wonder why it is they don't try something else.
Now Sagat - Sagat is the one to fear.
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AutomaticZen
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Generally, I get the same characters over and over again in online matches: Ken/Akuma/Sagat (in that order)
I myself generally play Abel/Ryu/Sagat depending on who I'm playing against. (I pull out the Sagat against Vega/Bison)
I fear the Gief like none other. High priority on zero-range supers/ultra, high damage, invincible lariat. The only other vicious thing I've really run into was a single Dhalsim.
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Hoax
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http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=181248there will be a World SF4 tournament held in San Francisco on the same date as the US national SF4 finals (April 18th), and the winner of the Korean tournament would be invited to play for the world title along with the Japanese national tournament winner (Iyo as we all know) and the US tournament winner. He's also mentioned European champion a lot, so I'm guessing a European representative will be there as well. If this is true I'd be super down to go, except I am seeing The Killers in San Jose that day.
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A nation consists of its laws. A nation does not consist of its situation at a given time. If an individual's morals are situational, then that individual is without morals. If a nation's laws are situational, that nation has no laws, and soon isn't a nation. -William Gibson
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Hoax
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Here are my top3 reasons why I hate SFIV:
1. Sagat's fake kick is so difficult to input that I can't clear his first move challenge mode. -- This is still really shitty, haven't tried it today but wtfux at it even being hard in the first place. 2. The ps3 sticks are so sensitive that I can't do an ultra/super motion reliably. -- I really feel like I have to use the dpad, but I dont like to use the dpad, but after using the stick for two days now I love the dpad today. >< fucking game.
3. Akuma's ultra input is hard, makes it hard to get the last two character unlocks. -- this was really easy actually once I wasn't already annoyed with the game when I tried it.
Basically I'm not good at it and it pisses me the fuck off. I wish I could blame it all on not having an additional $XXX piece of equipment but I've got a feeling that isn't the entire problem.
edited: Ok so now I can get to the L4 easy challenges, after being confused by EX cancel until I finally found the answer online. The L4 challenges are pretty crazy, I think I'll unlock the last two characters first.
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« Last Edit: April 07, 2009, 06:17:50 PM by Hoax »
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A nation consists of its laws. A nation does not consist of its situation at a given time. If an individual's morals are situational, then that individual is without morals. If a nation's laws are situational, that nation has no laws, and soon isn't a nation. -William Gibson
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MisterNoisy
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2. The ps3 sticks are so sensitive that I can't do an ultra/super motion reliably.
The PS3 d-pad isn't shit like the 360's - use that instead.
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Hoax
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If anyone wants to see insanely high level play (like right now) its so crazy that even though I'm terrible and not a part of the scene its very fun to watch. http://evo2k.com/live/SF4 top 8 matches going on right now (9pm PST).
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A nation consists of its laws. A nation does not consist of its situation at a given time. If an individual's morals are situational, then that individual is without morals. If a nation's laws are situational, that nation has no laws, and soon isn't a nation. -William Gibson
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