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Sairon
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Reply #35 on: October 11, 2007, 03:13:54 AM

That must be why we're talking about Monster Hunting moving from the Wii to the PS3.

It's one game, do we even have to compare the 3rd party line up all over again?  undecided
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Reply #36 on: October 11, 2007, 04:27:31 AM

Is there something about being a PS3 fanboy that makes people forget how capitalism works and how companies operate?

Are you kidding?  We're lucky they don't collapse the very laws of time and space for miles around them.

Stop being smartasses guys. I'm disappointed not because it's on the Wii, but because it's been abandoned entirely on the PS3.
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Reply #37 on: October 11, 2007, 05:04:39 AM

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Is there something about being a PS3 fanboy that makes people forget how capitalism works and how companies operate?

Once again, Monster Hunter on the PSP was the best selling portable game of last year. The best selling game completely last year. Yes, in Japan, but whatever, it won't sell on the Wii here either.

The DS has an install base 6 times larger than the PSP.

Oh wait.

A lot like the Wii.

If that's not telling of where Monster Hunter's fans are, I don't know what is.
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Reply #38 on: October 11, 2007, 05:09:33 AM

I lost my original post somewhere in the ether, but, why wouldn't MH3 publish a nicely polished version for PS3 and then port a shittastic version for Wii?


It isn't like most Wii gamers know the difference anyway.

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Reply #39 on: October 11, 2007, 05:15:20 AM

I lost my original post somewhere in the ether, but, why wouldn't MH3 publish a nicely polished version for PS3 and then port a shittastic version for Wii?


It isn't like most Wii gamers know the difference anyway.
I think, in the face of a money grab (Much like the rumors of RE4 ported to the RE5 engine just for the graphics), Sony will announce a PS3 version 6 months down the line with added content. It seems companies have started to like releasing an Early Adopter Version to delay the real version their working on. Sorta like Gears of War for the PC.

It's tasteless, but it's hard to fight really.
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Reply #40 on: October 11, 2007, 05:21:42 AM

Wouldn't that just be good for PS3 gamers in the long run? Taking sports games for the Wii as an example, those games are complete shit; I wouldn't play anything sports on the Wii that wasn't part of the free package Ninty sent with my console. It seems to me that the original release for another console (if it is truly like a trial release) sounds much like an extended beta test.

Which kinda makes me laugh on the inside, if that's what the Wii devolves into. I'm not trying to become a huge Wii hater, because I played the shit out of it drunkenly with my friends when I first got it for a month, but I'll be damned if I've even set the thing up since I moved into my new apartment in June.


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Reply #41 on: October 11, 2007, 07:41:57 AM

Haemish, you keep saying it and every time it looks retarded. When a third party makes a game on the Wii, when they could CLEARLY have made it better on another system (in this case the PC - network infrastructure better and will be MUCH better, hard drive loading, the ability to have uncompressed audio, a REAL CONTROLLER, to be played on the same system as the prequels), it does hurt games. It just doesn't hurt as much as not bringing it out as all. Also I'll pay $10-$20 more ALL DAY LONG to not have it look like muddled shit.
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Reply #42 on: October 11, 2007, 08:37:45 AM

I lost my original post somewhere in the ether, but, why wouldn't MH3 publish a nicely polished version for PS3 and then port a shittastic version for Wii?


It isn't like most Wii gamers know the difference anyway.

Because developing that nicely polished version for the PS3 is likely about 4-6 times more expensive than just creating it for the Wii in the first place. And seeing as how the Wii has about 4 times more owners than the PS3, it would take every single PS3 owner to buy the game to make back the money they could make by just doing the cheaper Wii version.

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Reply #43 on: October 11, 2007, 08:43:54 AM

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Because developing that nicely polished version for the PS3 is likely about 4-6 times more expensive than just creating it for the Wii in the first place. And seeing as how the Wii has about 4 times more owners than the PS3, it would take every single PS3 owner to buy the game to make back the money they could make by just doing the cheaper Wii version.

Uh, I've got history on my side with Capcom titles across multiple losing consoles. Why don't you go ahead and back up what you just said, thanx.
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Reply #44 on: October 11, 2007, 08:50:16 AM

I don't think anyone is suggesting that putting a game on the Wii is bad business, just bad for gamers. 

No.  What's bad for gamers is when gamers can't play games.  Sony fucked up because they made a system that many gamers couldn't or wouldn't buy, and developers couldn't develop for.  "OMG, the PS3 has awesome hardware so it's so cool!"  No.  The PS3 sucks ass because it's not being used for games.  A Cray has awesome hardware too, but using that as a gaming platform is hardly good for gamers.

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Reply #45 on: October 11, 2007, 08:51:29 AM

I'll say this: I think it's funny that Sony is building up Yet Another Console based on Final Fantasy mainline series, 1st Party titles/Insomniac stuff, and Metal Gear. Good for them I think, they're going to learn some hard lessons.
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Reply #46 on: October 11, 2007, 10:02:16 AM

Honestly I don't really even know what Monster Hunter 3 is.

It's essentially Pokeman.

Now I know why you like MMOGs, you're retarded.

Edit: To elaborate - don't hand out misinformation like you work at Costco. Go back to muttering endlessly about MMOGs because at least there you drown out in the torrent of armchair designers.

You're a douche, and I sometimes post sarcastic comments without green text.

For someone who the post beore could've done a search about the game I thought the response was comedy gold, but your answer was doubly so probably with only me laughing. Thanks for insulting me again, I just got (130) in punchingbag skill.

FYI I haven't played the game, cared about bad import JRPGs, owned a PS2 or actually followed these titles, but I did know it was a poorly reviewed Capcom one that I probably would've looked to rent if the PS3 I was intending to buy could've done backward compatibility.

You may now continue the Wii hate where it left off.


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Reply #47 on: October 11, 2007, 10:08:48 AM

So, what you're saying is, I was right and there was no way to tell it was a joke.
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Reply #48 on: October 11, 2007, 10:09:56 AM

and that you're a douche who hates the Wii


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Reply #49 on: October 11, 2007, 10:13:19 AM

and that you're a douche who hates the Wii

Uh, ok?
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Reply #50 on: October 11, 2007, 11:14:57 AM

I played the shit out of it drunkenly with my friends when I first got it for a month, but I'll be damned if I've even set the thing up since I moved into my new apartment in June.

Based on cmlancas' post, I want to amend my earlier assertion that the Wii is the Toyota Camry of consoles:

The Wii is the fat chick of consoles.
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Reply #51 on: October 11, 2007, 01:21:59 PM

Wii Games being released as per Nintendo PR, with "dates."

Non-Games/MiniGames/Shovelware/Kiddy Bullshit - The Ability for these titles to sell does not effect the categorization
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Nintendo Titles that are ALSO Minigames/NonGames

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Oct. 1: MLB Power Pros from 2K Sports
Oct. 1: Dragon Blade: Wrath of Fire from D3Publisher of America
Oct. 2: Crash of the Titans from Sierra Entertainment, Inc.
Oct. 5: Balls of Fury from DSI Games

Oct. 8: Donkey Kong: Barrel Blast from Nintendo
Oct. 9: FIFA 08 from Electronic Arts
Oct. 9: Bleach: Shattered Blade from SEGA
Oct. 9: LOONEY TUNES: ACME ARSENAL from WB Games
Oct. 10: Arctic Tale from DSI Games
Oct. 15: Sea Monsters from DSI Games
Oct. 16: Thrillville: Off the Rails from LucasArts
Oct. 22: EA PLAYGROUND from Electronic Arts
Oct. 23: Backyard Football from Atari, Inc.
Oct. 23: The Sims 2 Castaway from Electronic Arts
Oct. 23: Rockstar Games Presents Table Tennis from Rockstar Games
Oct. 23: The Legend of Spyro: The Eternal Night from Sierra Entertainment, Inc.

Oct. 23: NARUTO: Clash of Ninja Revolution from TOMY Corporation
Oct. 25: M&M'S Kart Racing from DSI Games
Oct. 28: Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock from Activision
Oct. 29: Battalion Wars 2 from Nintendo
Oct. 30: Ben 10: Protector of Earth from D3Publisher of America
Oct. 30: Showtime Championship Boxing from DSI Games
Oct. 30: NEED FOR SPEED PROSTREET from Electronic Arts
Oct. 30: THE SIMPSONS from Electronic Arts
Oct. 31: Manhunt 2 from Rockstar Games

October: Spider-Man: Friend or Foe from Activision
October: Bee Movie Game from Activision
October: Tony Hawk's Proving Ground from Activision
October: Ultimate Duck Hunting from Detn8 Games Ltd.
October: Mercury Meltdown Revolution from Ignition Entertainment
October: Namco Museum Remix from NAMCO BANDAI Games America
October: Code Lyoko: Quest for Infinity from The Game Factory
October: Avatar: The Last Airbender - The Burning Earth from THQ
October: Bratz: The Movie from THQ
October: Cars: Mater-National from THQ

October: Nicktoons: Attack of the Toybots from THQ
October: SpongeBob's Atlantis SquarePantis from THQ

Nov. 5: Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn from Nintendo
Nov. 6: DanceDanceRevolution Hottest Party from Konami Digital Entertainment, Inc.
Nov. 6: LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Saga from LucasArts
Nov. 6: Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games from SEGA

Nov. 12: Super Mario Galaxy from Nintendo
Nov. 13: Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 3 from Atari, Inc.
Nov. 13: Godzilla Unleashed from Atari, Inc.
Nov. 13: Lara Croft Tomb Raider: Anniversary from Eidos, Inc.
Nov. 13: BLOCKS from Electronic Arts
Nov. 13: MEDAL OF HONOR HEROES 2 from Electronic Arts
Nov. 13: LUXOR: Pharaoh's Challenge from MumboJumbo

Nov. 13: Geometry Wars: Galaxies from Sierra Entertainment, Inc.
Nov. 19: Link's Crossbow Training (packaged with Wii Zapper ) from Nintendo
Nov. 19: SMARTY PANTS from Electronic Arts
Nov. 20: Jenga World Tour from Atari, Inc.
Nov. 20: Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords from D3Publisher of America

November: Trauma Center: New Blood from Atlus USA
November: Star Trek: Conquest from Bethesda Softworks
November: Disney Princess: Enchanted Journey from Disney Interactive Studios
November: Hannah Montana: Spotlight World Tour from Disney Interactive Studios
November: High School Musical: Sing It from Disney Interactive Studios
November: Garfield Gets Real from DSI Games
November: Furu Furu Park from Majesco Entertainment
November: AMF Bowling: Pinbusters! from Mud Duck Games
November: Ghost Squad from SEGA
November: WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2008 from THQ
November: Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30 from Ubisoft
November: CSI: Hard Evidence from Ubisoft
November: My Word Coach from Ubisoft
November: Petz: Catz 2 (name not final) from Ubisoft
November: Petz: Dogz 2 (name not final) from Ubisoft
November: Petz: Horsez 2 (name not final) from Ubisoft
November: Rayman Raving Rabbids 2 from Ubisoft
Dec. 4: Alvin and the Chipmunks from Brash Entertainment
Dec. 4: The Golden Compass from SEGA
December: MX vs. ATV Untamed from THQ
December: Super Swing Golf Season 2 from Tecmo, Inc.
December: Rygar: The Battle of Argus from Tecmo, Inc.
December: Cranium: Kabookii from Ubisoft
December: Nitrobike from Ubisoft
Holiday 2007: NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams from SEGA
Winter '07: SoulCalibur Legends from NAMCO BANDAI Games America

Jan. 21: Endless Ocean from Nintendo
Feb. 10: Super Smash Bros. Brawl from Nintendo
Feb. 15: Yamaha Supercross from DSI Games
Feb. 19: Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity from SEGA
February: No More Heroes from Ubisoft
February: Wild Petz Tigerz from Ubisoft
March: Obscure: The Aftermath from Ignition Entertainment
Q1: LUXOR 3 from MumboJumbo
Q1: One Piece: Unlimited Adventure from NAMCO BANDAI Games America

Spring '08: Mario Kart Wii (name not final) from Nintendo

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Reply #52 on: October 11, 2007, 01:26:23 PM

I think they missed Zack & Wiki, which by all accounts is releasing on the 23rd of this month.
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Reply #53 on: October 11, 2007, 01:27:41 PM

Weird, since this is from Nintendo.

Z&W isn't out in Japan yet though, so not likely.
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Reply #54 on: October 11, 2007, 01:36:02 PM

I don't see how TH:PG or Manhunt 2 are non-games/minigames/shovelware/kiddie bullshit.
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Reply #55 on: October 11, 2007, 01:36:44 PM

Weird, since this is from Nintendo.

Z&W isn't out in Japan yet though, so not likely.

I don't know.  EBgames, Amazon.com, IGN, and even Capcom's website all say Oct. 23rd.
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Reply #56 on: October 11, 2007, 01:39:17 PM

I don't see how TH:PG or Manhunt 2 are non-games/minigames/shovelware/kiddie bullshit.

Removed crotchsaws.

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Reply #57 on: October 11, 2007, 01:43:45 PM

Manhunt 2 was originally a PS2 game. Wiggle waggled in.
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Reply #58 on: October 11, 2007, 01:45:08 PM

In fact, that list seems to have a problem with Capcom games in general, because RE: Umbrella Chronicles (Nov. 13th) is missing as well.

Edit:  Guilty Gear XX Accent Core is also missing, although maybe that was just to spare us a rant about waggle controls, shovelware, superior PS2 version and all that...
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Reply #59 on: October 11, 2007, 01:53:04 PM

You're right. And that's weird (the capcom thing that is).
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Reply #60 on: October 11, 2007, 02:03:18 PM

You are the guys complaining that games are moving from the PS3 to the Wii, not me.

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Reply #61 on: October 11, 2007, 02:05:46 PM

Edit:  Guilty Gear XX Accent Core is also missing, although maybe that was just to spare us a rant about waggle controls, shovelware, superior PS2 version and all that...

Came out at the end of September. Also, uh, yea, the PS2 version is superior in every which way. Including arcade sticks available. But you already knew that.
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Reply #62 on: October 11, 2007, 02:13:00 PM

Edit:  Guilty Gear XX Accent Core is also missing, although maybe that was just to spare us a rant about waggle controls, shovelware, superior PS2 version and all that...

Came out at the end of September. Also, uh, yea, the PS2 version is superior in every which way. Including arcade sticks available. But you already knew that.

I don't think the Wii version comes out until next week.  I don't doubt that waggle doesn't really fit with this game though (although I think it does have at least have the option to play with the classic controller).
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Reply #63 on: October 11, 2007, 03:51:31 PM

Manhunt 2 was originally a PS2 game. Wiggle waggled in.

um.. so anything that's released on a different platform is a real game right up until it's ported to the Wii and has some stuff added to take advantage of the Wii's controller?

Make sure you add anything that's released on a 360 that also uses sixaxis, or hell, rumble to your next shovelware list for PS3.

Really Schild. You're so transparent when it comes to your Wii hate that you're at the point of being comical...




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Reply #64 on: October 11, 2007, 04:35:44 PM

You're right. And that's weird (the capcom thing that is).

What's weird (or maybe just stupid) is the fact that they're obviously not marketing Zack and Wiki much if you didn't even know that it was being released in less than two weeks.
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Reply #65 on: October 11, 2007, 04:36:33 PM

You're right. And that's weird (the capcom thing that is).

What's weird (or maybe just stupid) is the fact that they're obviously not marketing Zack and Wiki much if you didn't even know that it was being released in less than two weeks.

Man, there's like one movie of it. And they're sending it to death if it ACTUALLY releases in 2 weeks.
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