Blizzard giving PvE to PvP transfers to friends

[pxib]

I don't have a problem with the cat-and-mouse as long as the mouse has a chance to get to the mousehole.

That level of inconvenience: Having your play interrupted and needing to return from your nearest rune location. Substitute "graveyard" for "rune location" and that's called "a PvP death" in WoW. It pisses a lot of people off.

[Der Helm]

Granted I played a rogue, most of the time, but for me getting away from someone who tried to gank me, never was a problem.

Usually I died only when I decided to fight back. Which happend a lot.

I usually only got angry when I got killed more than once or twice in a row, and even then I just logged of for a few minutes/took a biobreak or whatever.

I do not know of many people who really where really angry because of dying in WoW.

Not in a "OMFG, I am quitting this broken game !!1!1!!eleven!!"  at least.

[pxib]

They don't quit the game because WoW offers them the choice of non-PvP servers where they can safely play in harmony with their other-faction brethren. A game which didn't offer its own Trammel would simply see them flee to another game which did.

[Jazzrat]

Back to the original post, this is significant because?

I was expecting another scandalous story like how Eve dev were cheating in their own game.
As for the whole pro and anti world PvP, it's pointless in WoW. There's no great relic to be won or lost (DAoC), territorial control benefit was minimal at best in the Outland and lol@people who thinks lowbie ganking is h4rdc0r3. Huddling in some discreet corner grinding away in fear != not pvp skill

[Morat20]

They don't quit the game because WoW offers them the choice of non-PvP servers where they can safely play in harmony with their other-faction brethren. A game which didn't offer its own Trammel would simply see them flee to another game which did.

A quicker way of starting that would have been "Well, duh, that's because you're playing on a PvP server. The people that find that shit annoying are playing on the PvE servers".

[Musashi]

Now, the rest the stuff, talking about curbstomping some random guild until they begged you to stop because they got in the way of your internet dick lengthening contest... you lost me.

Man, I got carried away reliving past glory.  I don't know how much you folks know about the AQ event, but viewing my statements in the context of competing with another guild to open it makes what I said seem a little less 'sociopathic cunt-ish.'  In other words, I'm not talking about rolling around in a grinding area with my band of internet dicks fucking with noobs.  I'm talking about two equally geared and progressed guys of opposing factions WILLINGLY going at it for ultimate epeen glory, and that's a bit different.  Only reason I bring it up in the first place is to point out that brief time in WoW history where zone control meant something.  That was to say that since the event and zone were designed for those kind of fights, it wasn't unreasonable.  So to be more clear:  If WoW had more shit like this, then yea, no PvE to PVP transfers.  Since it doesn't, fuck it, let them transfer.

I'm of the mind that there's got to be a happy medium out there where players like me who enjoy shit like that don't piss off the players in this thread that don't.  I'm in no way a proponent of mechanics that fuck people who aren't at the same level, or otherwise aren't willing participants.  But that, I have to admit, is kind of relative to how seriously you take yourself when you get killed in PvP.  If you take dying on a PvP server as getting fucked, well, I guess I just don't take it as seriously as some.  Especially in a game like WoW where it's impossible to get camped unless you're a total retard, or you keep trying to fight when you're at a disadvantage.

[Jayce]

I'm talking about two equally geared and progressed guys of opposing factions WILLINGLY going at it for ultimate epeen glory, and that's a bit different. 

The AQ event also transferred a lot of money from rich veterans who wanted rep rewards to sweaty noobs who saw a huge jump in the market for linen cloth and copper bars.  It also featured an epic cooking recipe.  And now you point out that it briefly gave a point to PvP.  I don't see how  you could get more perfect than that, but everyone else's response was OMG COCKBLOCK!!1!

More AQ-style events plz.

[Chimpy]

More AQ-style events plz.

This time with better server architecture in place FIRST and less buggy events. 

[Ironwood]

I'm talking about two equally geared and progressed guys of opposing factions WILLINGLY going at it for ultimate epeen glory, and that's a bit different. 

The AQ event also transferred a lot of money from rich veterans who wanted rep rewards to sweaty noobs who saw a huge jump in the market for linen cloth and copper bars.  It also featured an epic cooking recipe.  And now you point out that it briefly gave a point to PvP.  I don't see how  you could get more perfect than that, but everyone else's response was OMG COCKBLOCK!!1!

More AQ-style events plz.

Only the Hardcore Raiders saw it as a cockblock.

[Calantus]

I'm talking about two equally geared and progressed guys of opposing factions WILLINGLY going at it for ultimate epeen glory, and that's a bit different. 

The AQ event also transferred a lot of money from rich veterans who wanted rep rewards to sweaty noobs who saw a huge jump in the market for linen cloth and copper bars.  It also featured an epic cooking recipe.  And now you point out that it briefly gave a point to PvP.  I don't see how  you could get more perfect than that, but everyone else's response was OMG COCKBLOCK!!1!

More AQ-style events plz.

The only cooking recipe my priest lacks is that one. :(

[Xanthippe]

I liked the AQ event too.  It sure did a great job of redistributing gold.

[Morat20]

The only cooking recipe my priest lacks is that one. :(

There was a recipe there?

[LK]

The quests are still there.  It's just a matter of getting the people together to do it.

[Musashi]

The only cooking recipe my priest lacks is that one. :(

There was a recipe there?

Dirge's Kickin' Chimaerok Chops

It was the best cooking recipe in the game, but it's obsolete with TBC.  It was also a huge pain in the dick to farm, as the meat is from elite chimeras only found on the south island off the coast of Feralas (Read:  BFE).  The combine was Goblin Rocket Fuel, which required Volatile Rum.  Also a huge pain in the dick, but at least you could do it by yourself.

[Phred]

The only cooking recipe my priest lacks is that one. :(

There was a recipe there?

Dirge's Kickin' Chimaerok Chops

It was the best cooking recipe in the game, but it's obsolete with TBC.  It was also a huge pain in the dick to farm, as the meat is from elite chimeras only found on the south island off the coast of Feralas (Read:  BFE).  The combine was Goblin Rocket Fuel, which required Volatile Rum.  Also a huge pain in the dick, but at least you could do it by yourself.

That quest line was one of the worst examples of short sighted thinking at Blizz yet. As an example of what made it suck so badly, the chimera hide (whatever the single drop off the named elite was) was a rare drop and it only dropped for one person. 25 sta food is barely obsolete, though why they didn't retrofix all food buffs to last a half hour when they changed it in BC is beyond me.

[Chimpy]

That quest line was one of the worst examples of short sighted thinking at Blizz yet. As an example of what made it suck so badly, the chimera hide (whatever the single drop off the named elite was) was a rare drop and it only dropped for one person. 25 sta food is barely obsolete, though why they didn't retrofix all food buffs to last a half hour when they changed it in BC is beyond me.

Well, the quest chain was designed with the intention of only one person per guild (or raid) being able to do it a week, as the whole chain was really a one-off part of the opening event. So it being a single drop really made sense in that context. Remember, you had to grind from max hated up through to Neutral by collecting carapaces in hell silithus before you could even get to the "chicken" quest before the gates were open.

It would not necessarily have been a bad idea to "nerf" the quest later on when every server had the gates open, I will agree to that. But as far as how that chain was designed, the goggles being a random drop in MC (that you could clear the whole zone completely and not get like we did) and the Eranikus event in Moonglade being too much for their servers to handle were really the only parts that were totally and utterly annoying. Oh and the sheer cost of making an Arcanite Bouy making anyone completing the chain after the gates were opened seem to be an utter and complete waste.

[Ozzu]

I don't have a problem with the cat-and-mouse as long as the mouse has a chance to get to the mousehole.

And that's the key. When I'm running along at lvl 30 or so and a lvl 70 decides to spend 2 seconds absolutely demolishing me, well, that's frustrating. I'm sure as hell not going to pick on him, but out of the kindness of his heart, he picks on me and I have absolutely no chance of surviving or even getting away. Usually if I'm attacked and realize it's a 70, I just stand there and let him get his rocks off for 2 seconds and then just rez up and go back to what I was doing.

[Phred]

That quest line was one of the worst examples of short sighted thinking at Blizz yet. As an example of what made it suck so badly, the chimera hide (whatever the single drop off the named elite was) was a rare drop and it only dropped for one person. 25 sta food is barely obsolete, though why they didn't retrofix all food buffs to last a half hour when they changed it in BC is beyond me.

Well, the quest chain was designed with the intention of only one person per guild (or raid) being able to do it a week, as the whole chain was really a one-off part of the opening event. So it being a single drop really made sense in that context. Remember, you had to grind from max hated up through to Neutral by collecting carapaces in hell silithus before you could even get to the "chicken" quest before the gates were open.

It would not necessarily have been a bad idea to "nerf" the quest later on when every server had the gates open, I will agree to that. But as far as how that chain was designed, the goggles being a random drop in MC (that you could clear the whole zone completely and not get like we did) and the Eranikus event in Moonglade being too much for their servers to handle were really the only parts that were totally and utterly annoying. Oh and the sheer cost of making an Arcanite Bouy making anyone completing the chain after the gates were opened seem to be an utter and complete waste.

Hence why I called it short sighted. Why even bother having the item that started the quest drop after the One had opened the gates?
And if you do let it keep dropping, why not make the quests doable after the gates open?

[cmlancas]

If WoW supported PvE to PvP transfers, I'd resub. Some friends are on a PvP server that I'd play with, but having to go through 1-60 again makes me want to stab myself.

[Chenghiz]

why not make the quests doable after the gates open?

If by 'the quests' you mean the entire chain barring the final opening of the gates and the opening event, then it is doable. Several people in Goon Squad have done them after the fact and then transferred to some other server to get their bug mount and title.