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Reply #35 on: August 23, 2007, 01:25:20 PM

It's hard to haze 176 people in 2 weeks.
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Reply #36 on: August 23, 2007, 01:28:41 PM

I think you got lucky somehow.  Too many newbies to haze for a few weeks there.

As for the grammar, I think you could go either way with that.  Lindorn's version sounds more intellectual.

So Lindorn is an intellectual...


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Reply #37 on: August 23, 2007, 01:32:10 PM

I think you got lucky somehow.  Too many newbies to haze for a few weeks there.

As for the grammar, I think you could go either way with that.  Lindorn's version sounds more intellectual.
Choose the incorrect response:

a) When someone is openly talking shit to me, I do what I mentioned earlier.
b) When someone is....reacting in a hostile manner, I do what I mentioned earlier.
c) When someone is....react in a hostile manner, I do what I mentioned earlier.

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Reply #38 on: August 23, 2007, 01:34:24 PM

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I don't think he attempted it, I think he did it.

Both "react" and "reacting" can be correctly used in that sentence.
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Reply #39 on: August 23, 2007, 01:39:53 PM

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So Lindorn is an intellectual...

This statement coming from someone who's primary method of conveyance involves "kitty" pictures? ;)
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Reply #40 on: August 23, 2007, 01:43:09 PM

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I don't think he attempted it, I think he did it.

Both "react" and "reacting" can be correctly used in that sentence.

I just solidly showed you that you were wrong, incontrovertibly. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

You can't use the construction is react. You can only use the construction is reacting. It isn't my fault that when you were cockstabbed, the perpetrator hit the part of the brain related to grammar.

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Reply #41 on: August 23, 2007, 01:51:06 PM

If I would have said "rather than exist in the state of reacting" it would have been grammatically correct, therefore "reacting" as an assumed state I would also think would be grammatically correct.  And while I'm sure you are pretty good at this, I'd like to see some proof before you claim "ownage".

I think there is definitely validity in what you are saying and I just saw you above post (which I had originally missed) and see where you are coming from.  I do think that while "react" may be a better choice, I'm not yet ready to go as far as to say that the other choice is incorrect.

I would also argue that the construction is "is openly talking shit" to which the "is" correlates.
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Reply #42 on: August 23, 2007, 02:00:16 PM

I got distracted by the kitten pictures. However, now that I am here to lend the vast weight of my expertise, all will be well.

I might have missed the initial sentence construction, but I take it the problem is with this sentence:

"But when someone is openly talking shit to me rather than react in a hostile manner I do what I mentioned earlier."

The problem is one of tense (it's the naughty word "is") "Talking" and "react" are in two different tenses -- 'is talking' implies an ongoing and immediate action, whereas 'react' implies a past or hypothetical reaction.

Any of the following variants would be correct.

1) But when someone openly talks shit to me, rather than react in a hostile manner...
2) But when someone is openly talking to me rather than reacting in a hostile manner...
3) But when someone has talked shit to me, rather than react in a hostile manner...

"Is" is ongoing, and react reacts badly with is in that format.

I know you're relieved I've weighed in on the subject, and you can return to your kitten-posting and word-inventing. (Haemishing is a good one. I approve!)
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Reply #43 on: August 23, 2007, 02:13:35 PM

I would also argue that the construction is "is openly talking shit" to which the "is" correlates.

Lindorn, your best bet is to change the subject to something innocuous.  Did you ever play UO?  Talk about trammel for a while, any charts you have to hand might help.
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Reply #44 on: August 23, 2007, 02:44:06 PM

Words and stuff.

I know you're relieved I've weighed in on the subject, and you can return to your kitten-posting and word-inventing. (Haemishing is a good one. I approve!)

Thanks. I know I'm not the only one here who got a B+ in High School Engrish II.

I do like Haemishing. I think that Haemishism, Haemishing, and Haemished should all be added to the Nazi spellchecker.

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Reply #45 on: August 23, 2007, 02:58:41 PM

He made fun of the kittens, he has gone too far.

Please tell me one of you has tracked his IP address back to Grunk's lair of cockstabbery.

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Reply #46 on: August 23, 2007, 02:59:39 PM

Normally I like turning people's names into words - particularly verbs, but there's a precursor here - prior art if you will.



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Reply #47 on: August 23, 2007, 03:21:08 PM

I was ready to write this day off as a comedic loss for F13. Thank you for the hail mary!
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Reply #48 on: August 23, 2007, 03:21:58 PM

This grammar discussion has the Great Old One's approval.


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Reply #49 on: August 23, 2007, 03:29:28 PM

Also, when they update the Oxford English dictionary I want full fucking credit for Haemishisms.

My ego approves of this raping of the English language.

And just for Lindorn, I'd like to introduce you to your friend and mine, Mr. Comma.

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Reply #50 on: August 23, 2007, 03:47:25 PM

I would also argue that the construction is "is openly talking shit" to which the "is" correlates.

Lindorn, your best bet is to change the subject to something innocuous.  Did you ever play UO?  Talk about trammel for a while, any charts you have to hand might help.

OHHHHH charts... where?
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Reply #51 on: August 23, 2007, 04:12:35 PM

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The problem is one of tense (it's the naughty word "is") "Talking" and "react" are in two different tenses -- 'is talking' implies an ongoing and immediate action, whereas 'react' implies a past or hypothetical reaction.

Yea I hear you on this.  I see the validity in that.

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Lindorn, your best bet is to change the subject to something innocuous.  Did you ever play UO?  Talk about trammel for a while, any charts you have to hand might help.

Lol thanks man I appreciate that.
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Reply #52 on: August 23, 2007, 09:25:03 PM

I don't see why you all continually find it necessary to rub salt into the wound.  At this point you guys are continuing what was previously a resolved situation by just straight talking shit.

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Reply #53 on: August 23, 2007, 09:54:19 PM

Morat got to the "missing comma" thing before me.  Class dismissed.


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Reply #54 on: August 23, 2007, 11:05:59 PM

If asking someone or someones to keep it clean in a reasonable discussion is being a "pussy" then I can see how I would come off as King Pussy himself.

How is he not grief titled "King Pussy himself" yet?

Don't ever make me agree with WUA again you fuckheads...

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Reply #55 on: August 24, 2007, 12:43:36 AM

Well like I said if what I have said brands me a pussy then I am certainly King Pussy.  Hell give me the label why not.

Got a matching Avatar.  Don't back down on me now.
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Reply #56 on: August 24, 2007, 02:04:03 AM

Dear Lindorn,

This is the problem:

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...where the discussion is more about MMORPG's and less about an old western style "who can whip their dick out the fastest" contest.

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As long as someone isn't being a blatant dick to me 90% of the time I will ignore it.

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I'm willing to "hang" to talk to people like yourself that are willing to be mature about it.

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Hey man I'm going to respectfully ask that you stray away from outright patronization in the future with me.  I am here just as much for the enlightening discussion as you are, and I personally could do without the smartass remarks.  I think you have some great things to say, so let's just leave it at that and keep it clean please.

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If I came off as a crybaby that wasn't the intent.  You gave me a bit of shit, I respectfully asked you to tone it down, you agreed, and I thought everything was all good.  A few other people made some comments about how I should be able to "handle" it and gave me some additional shit, which I did take Schilds advice and ignored.  I simply said I was here for some good discussion and I feel I've been pretty consistent since I leveled with the moderators about the whole "link posting" situation.  I don't see why you all continually find it necessary to rub salt into the wound.  At this point you guys are continuing what was previously a resolved situation by just straight talking shit.

If asking someone or someones to keep it clean in a reasonable discussion is being a "pussy" then I can see how I would come off as King Pussy himself.  If not then just cut me some fucking slack guys and let it go...honestly it seems a bit childish at this point no?

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My natural reaction though in these situations is to just to make respectful requests and I think it is a pretty good policy overall.

You have 18 posts. That's a third of them. Another third is a grammar fight. The other third is you apologizing.

Step back a second and think about that.

You're basically telling people how you expect them to talk if they don't want you to take your ball and go home.

Seriously, what the hell is that?

Don't tell people to be mature. We're probably the most mature site out there other than gamerdad or whatever. And that doesn't count. Because they have kids and probably say stuff like "poopy" and "Man, I used to have time to play games."

Don't tell people what you expect. No one gives a shit. For reals.

Don't tell people what kind of conversation you'll involve yourself with. No one cares. It's best to just Talk and Not point things out.
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Reply #57 on: August 24, 2007, 06:55:00 AM

Don't tell people what kind of conversation you'll involve yourself with. No one cares. It's best to just Talk and Not point things out.

The fun part was having him say he wouldn't get involved in that kind of a conversation and then trolling him into it anyway.  He was being very pretentious and got punk'd on it.  Srsly, what kind of reception should he have expected with, "Hay guyz!  I gots betterer MMOS talk on my awesome red and black themed webz!  But you gottsta play nice!"

Also, the website theme, red and black?  Did he just forget the pentagrams and deth metal icons?

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Reply #58 on: August 24, 2007, 11:38:25 AM

Hay guyz!  I gots betterer MMOS talk on my awesome red and black themed webz!  But you gottsta play nice!

What?

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Reply #59 on: August 24, 2007, 11:58:17 AM

Damn, how'd I miss the gangbang of Queen Pussy Herself?


This thread was doing ok until Grammar Wars 2007.


And I kinda like the new guy's avatar. He might make it. Any bettin' folk around here?

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Reply #60 on: August 24, 2007, 12:04:46 PM

Well like I said if what I have said brands me a pussy then I am certainly King Pussy.  Hell give me the label why not.

Got a matching Avatar.  Don't back down on me now.

I had a friend in highschool who was the self-proclaimed "Poontang master". He actually called himself that. Somehow, it semi stuck and our new nickname for him was Poondaddy.

I think you should be forever known as "Pussdaddy". The daddy of all things Pussified. King Pussy is reserved for WUA's carebear ass. Er wait, maybe cmlancas since he missed his hazing.

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Reply #61 on: August 24, 2007, 02:10:02 PM

Schild I see where you are coming from, but at the same time I have posted normal pertinent information elsewhere as well.  Out of all of the posts you brought up....how many of those were merely responses to someone else giving me hell?  Hell between this post and yours there is 2 or 3 MORE posts talking shit.  I haven't pretentiously "dictated" to people what kind of conversations I'm willing to have.  That honestly is a straight up unfair description of what I've been saying.  All I've asked is to be respected on a basic human level...and the reason I keep having to restate this until I'm blue in the face is because there are still people provoking me and talking shit.

I haven't said anything standoffish or started any fires.....I'm simply responding in a pretty logical and easy going manner.  Does it make much sense to kick someone in the balls 5 times and then when he asks you to stop you call him a whiner?  I don't expect anyone to "talk a certain way".  I just expect that people would show me some respect.  I shouldn't have to stress that.  If no one wants to do that honestly man that's ok....but to claim that I'm arbitrarily responsible for any of these ridiculous discussions is just ludicrous to me.
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Reply #62 on: August 24, 2007, 02:12:30 PM

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Hay guyz!  I gots betterer MMOS talk on my awesome red and black themed webz!  But you gottsta play nice!"

Did you just accuse me of being pretentious and then fabricating this load of crap as if it was anything even remotely close to what I've said on these boards?

Wow.
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Reply #63 on: August 24, 2007, 02:19:50 PM

I just expect that people would show me some respect. 

Respect is earned on the Interwebs. It starts with not posting links to your websites as your very first post.

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Reply #64 on: August 24, 2007, 02:21:48 PM

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Respect is earned on the Interwebs. It starts with not posting links to your websites as your very first post.

That I can and will take full responsibility for.  And if that has got me crucified then so be it.  It was an honest mistake and wasn't intended to cause a disturbance.  So again I offer an apology.
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Reply #65 on: August 24, 2007, 02:25:02 PM

There is no such thing as an apology on the interwebs. Instead, you must endure weeks of jeers and a lifetime of shame. You'll always be known as The One Who Linked First, King Pussy.


Where is the grief title? It makes me sad that he doesn't have that one yet. The masses clamor!

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Reply #66 on: August 24, 2007, 02:29:48 PM

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Where is the grief title? It makes me sad that he doesn't have that one yet. The masses clamor!

I'm waiting for it.  I better not be wearing this avatar for nothin.
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Reply #67 on: August 24, 2007, 02:46:26 PM

Lindorn, how good do you think Darkfall will be?
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Reply #68 on: August 24, 2007, 02:46:34 PM

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Where is the grief title? It makes me sad that he doesn't have that one yet. The masses clamor!

I'm waiting for it.  I better not be wearing this avatar for nothin.

Not happening. Grief titles are earned around here too. Your fuckup was too run of the mill.
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Reply #69 on: August 24, 2007, 02:53:31 PM

I think you should be forever known as "Pussdaddy". The daddy of all things Pussified. King Pussy is reserved for WUA's carebear ass. Er wait, maybe cmlancas since he missed his hazing.

Pfft, you're the fag who thinks TNG is better than DS9.  You can watch Picard teach Planet Pussulon the value of sharing through the power of political correctness and gentle hugs if you want.  I'll take Sisko punching Q in his motherfucking face, thank you very much.


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