*Official* 2007 College Football Thread

[Montague]

I don't see that win having that large of an effect in the computer especially in comparison to VaTech.  VaTech is at 6 in the computer with .810 and beat the number 8 team in the computer BC.  LSU is 7 in the computer with a .790 and beat Tennessee which is at 13 in the computer with .510. So VaTech is higher and beat a higher ranked (by the computer) team.


EDIT: So LSU would have to make it up in the Harris and USA today which would mean voters leapfrogging them over Kansas, Georgia and VaTech which usually doesn't happen.

LSU gets the top 10 win bonus though because they beat Va. Tech. Tellshow should be updated tonight, I would trust him over ESPN anyhow.

Edit: LSU whacked Va Tech earlier in the year and they have the same record, yet Va Tech is ahead of them in the BCS. That's awful.

[Abagadro]

I was under the impression that the QW win was already built into it so wouldn't make a big splash in the final poll but the whole system is so byzantine and ridiculous I'm likely wrong.

Pretty much any way this championship game come out, it will be a farce.

[Paelos]

As a Georgia fan, I say this and this alone when considering who belongs in the title game.

Name the two best teams in the land...

Right now, I say USC and Georgia.

Go.

[Montague]

As a Georgia fan, I say this and this alone when considering who belongs in the title game.

Name the two best teams in the land...

Right now, I say USC and Georgia.

Go.

Oklahoma and pick one of OSU, LSU, Georgia, USC. Every team at the top is flawed, it comes down to matchups now IMO.

[SnakeCharmer]

As a Georgia fan, I say this and this alone when considering who belongs in the title game.

Name the two best teams in the land...

Right now, I say USC and Georgia.

Go.

Florida is playing pretty damn well right now, probably playing about as well as Georgia is.  Those are two teams that have really turned it on the last half of the season.  USC looked 'ok' yesterday against UCLA.  I think you just about have to give a nod to Hawaii for the title game.  Being undefeated has to count for something. 

So, my pick for the title game:  Hawaii vs Georgia

The only team that has 'teh seksi' is Georgia in that matchup.  Hawaii?  Not sexy.  So they'll probably get passed over.  The thing is, people were bitching about OSU backing into the title game.  People will say the same thing about UGA.

So, I don't know.  The only thing I do know is that 2007 has been, without a doubt, the most fucked up year of college football evah.

[Murgos]

""What happened yesterday is history. What happens tomorrow is a mystery. What we do today makes a difference - the precious present moment." - University of Alabama Head Coach Nick Saban

Is that his excuse for so royally fucking over Miami that they will be years recovering and yet still getting a job someplace else?

[SnakeCharmer]

Miami was 'old' (and pushing/over the salary cap) before he got there.  Dave Wannstedt had as much/more to do with the current and future state of the Dolphins as Saban did. 

[Mandrel]

I could have sworn that the BCS added a rule that you couldn't play for the national championship if you didn't win your conference.  I thought they did that after Nebraska got beat by Colorado 62-36 in 2001 in the last game of the year, failed to make the Big 12 Championship game, then went on to get spanked by Miami in the Rose Bowl.  I guess I was mistaken, and it was just something that was being discussed at the time.

[Triforcer]

Well, the coaches and AP polls both have LSU 2nd.  Absolutely fucking pathetic.  SEC whining and crying and baby temper tantruming all season has apparently brainwashed enough people into believing the SEC champ MUST BE IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME EVERY YEAR, no matter what.  LSU's fanatical lackeys in the media were determined to do this.   

[Abagadro]

Well, shouldn't you be happy that now your OSU team will be able to put to rest the question of whether the SEC is better?

[Triforcer]

Well, shouldn't you be happy that now your OSU team will be able to put to rest the question of whether the SEC is better?

Frankly, no.   

[Montague]

Well, shouldn't you be happy that now your OSU team will be able to put to rest the question of whether the SEC is better?

Seriously. Beat LSU in Louisiana in the Sugar Bowl and everybody has to shut up.

[Abagadro]

Well, shouldn't you be happy that now your OSU team will be able to put to rest the question of whether the SEC is better?

Seriously. Beat LSU in Louisiana in the Sugar Bowl and everybody has to shut up.

Exactly (even though it isn't the Sugar Bowl, it is the BCS Championship game which is played in the same place a week later). Even I would have to give props if they pull that off.

[Abagadro]

Heh, I love Edward's line on ESPN:

Notre Dame has a longer winning streak than both teams in the title game.

[SnakeCharmer]

How the hell is it justified for UGA to drop below VTech?

Edit:  Time to toss aside school differences and put up a blanket of support for all SEC schools.

For Paelos:

[Trippy]

Well, the coaches and AP polls both have LSU 2nd.  Absolutely fucking pathetic.  SEC whining and crying and baby temper tantruming all season has apparently brainwashed enough people into believing the SEC champ MUST BE IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME EVERY YEAR, no matter what.  LSU's fanatical lackeys in the media were determined to do this.   

And who would you pick for number two? LSU's two losses came in triple overtimes to teams with winning records. Georgia and Kansas didn't win their conferences. VT got crushed by LSU when they played. USC lost to Stanford for crissake and Oklahoma lost to Colorado.

[Trippy]

How the hell is it justified for UGA to drop below VTech?

VT's conference title win pushed them ahead of Georgia in the BCS computer rankings who were idle cause they didn't even get to their title game.

[Abagadro]

VaTech is actually #1 in the computer polls interestingly enough but their 6th in the Harris and 5th in the USA Today doomed them.

EDIT: Oh, and its a travesty that Kansas is in a BCS game. They have no business being anywhere near that kind of bowl.

[Margalis]

I predict that the number of people defending the BCS will drop exponentially next year. This year has really exposed it as a mess.

When you can't figure out who the best team is you have a playoff, and right now nobody really knows who the best team is.

[Paelos]

ILLINOIS!?!?!? FUCKING ILLINOIS!

Fuck the Rose Bowl! You just sealed your doom you santimonious motherfuckers! I will never watch the Rose Bowl again without an SEC team. What a bunch of bullshit.

UGA v. Hawaii? Gee, what the hell do we have to gain in that game?

[Paelos]

How the hell is it justified for UGA to drop below VTech?

VT's conference title win pushed them ahead of Georgia in the BCS computer rankings who were idle cause they didn't even get to their title game.

Tell me VT is a better team. Tell me that right now with a straight face. The ACC is a bunch of shit this year.

[Trippy]

I'm not going to say they are cause I didn't watch any of the games from either team but in the ACC VT, Boston College, Clemson, and Virginia are all ranked in the top 25. VT lost to LSU and BC who they beat later for the conference title. Georgia lost to SC (yeesh) and Tennessee (thereby missing a chance at the SEC title despite a better overall record) and never played LSU. Given that I can understand how some computer algorithms would rank VT ahead of Georgia.

[Montague]

ILLINOIS!?!?!? FUCKING ILLINOIS!

Fuck the Rose Bowl! You just sealed your doom you santimonious motherfuckers! I will never watch the Rose Bowl again without an SEC team. What a bunch of bullshit.

UGA v. Hawaii? Gee, what the hell do we have to gain in that game?

That shocked me too. I know the Rose puts a preference on Big-10 Pac-10 but I didn't think they would take it to this extreme

[Trippy]

ILLINOIS!?!?!? FUCKING ILLINOIS!

Fuck the Rose Bowl! You just sealed your doom you santimonious motherfuckers! I will never watch the Rose Bowl again without an SEC team. What a bunch of bullshit.

They really only had three choices -- Missouri, Florida, or Illinois. They should've picked Missouri but since they skipped them it's an easy choice to pick Illinois over Florida. They had the same records and though Florida was one higher in the rank Illinois is Big 10.

To put it another way there are 10 BCS bowl slots. Illinois was ranked 13th so 3 teams ahead of them got screwed. Those teams were Missouri, Arizona State (can't play Rowl Bowl cause USC won Pac-10) and Florida. All the other top 10 schools except for Missouri are playing in BCS games.

[Paelos]

Georgia. That was a choice.

I was dying for the Rose Bowl. Sugar Bowl? Done that. Fiesta Bowl? That's crap and in Tempe. Orange Bowl? Let the messed up ACC have their fun. But the Rose Bowl...oh how sweet it would have been to finally see something different. It would have been the first time since WWII. You take Georgia and you don't look back. We're the highest ranked team in the BCS that doesn't have a championship tie-in. The Rose Bowl Committee can't speak anymore because of the Big Ten dick in their mouths.

If you want to go regionally Hawaii should have gone to the Rose Bowl over Illinois. Hell, ANYONE should have gone to a BCS bowl over Illinois. The fact that Georgia plays Hawaii in the Sugar Bowl is a joke. I won't be going, nor will thousands of loyal UGA fans who just watched a fucked up system screw over the entire league. Fuck this post-season and fuck the bowls.

I'm furious.

[Trippy]

OIC I didn't realize you cared that much which BCS bowl you went to in which case you should direct your anger at the Sugar Bowl selection commitee since they got first pick since they lost LSU and chose Georgia. In other words by the time the Rose Bowl had a chance to make their second pick Georgia was already taken.

Edit: Actually I take that back. Reading the rules more carefully the Rose Bowl gets replacement picks for both the Big 10 and Pac 10 so they would've had first pick since they lost the #1 team. I pretty sure, though, that they knew the Sugar Bowl wanted Georgia otherwise the Sugar Bowl wouldn't have had their traditional SEC team. Really the Sugar Bowl should've selected Missouri -- it's their own fault they picked Hawaii (though they did pick last for the at-large slots this year) -- they could've picked from any of the remaining top 14 teams.

[Nevermore]

They couldn't pick Missouri because Oklahoma and Kansas already got BCS bowl invites.  Same reason Florida couldn't get into a BCS bowl; LSU and Georgia already got invitations.  As for the Rose Bowl, it seemed pretty likely to me that they were going to take Illinois.  Whether they should have or not is irrelevant.  Newsflash: the whole bowl system is all fucked up.  Division I-AA style playoffs, please.

[Trippy]

Oh yeah that's right. I forgot about the two teams per conference max rule. So basically the Sugar Bowl got screwed cause they had to pick last this year though they still could've gone with Arizona St. or Boston College over Hawaii.

[Nevermore]

I'm not up on all the rules, but didn't one of the BCS bowls have to take Hawaii since they ended up #10?  Something about if a mid-major ends up in the top 12?

[Montague]

I'm not up on all the rules, but didn't one of the BCS bowls have to take Hawaii since they ended up #10?  Something about if a mid-major ends up in the top 12?

Yeah, and IIRC it's top 12, but they had to "tweak" it to top 15 this year because they didn't have enough BCS eligible teams at the time.

And count me in on the anti-bowl bandwagon. The top 4 Big Ten bowl teams essentially play road games. Ohio State vs LSU at New Orleans, Illiinois vs. USC at Pasadena, Michigan vs. Florida at Orlando, and Penn State vs. Texas A&M at San Antonio. Kekekekekekekeke

[WayAbvPar]

Anyone else appalled at the officiating in CFB? The Pac-1- seems especially bad (remember the screwjob Oklahoma got in the Oregon game last year?), but apparently it is bad all over-

50 seconds in. Tying TD in a very close game. Watch the battle between the left tackle and right DE at the top of the screen. After missing that, an official 10 yards BEHIND Jake Locker called him for an illegal forward pass when he was clearly not past the line on a critical 3rd down play. Or maybe the 3rd down came first. At any rate, a team that can't get out of its own way had to battle 60 year old men with cataracts as well as themselves and the other team.

Seriously- can we pay offiicials a full time salary and get some guys who aren't past retirement age to officiate? Same thing in the NFL, but they don't miss nearly as many calls as in college (probably since there are a lot more college officials, so there will be more weak ones). With the amount of money generated by football, it is just fucking embarrassing to see games decided by shitty officiating.

Don't even get me started on basketball...

[Nevermore]

I'm not into conspiracy theories but if you watched the Pitt/West Virginia game, there were 3 particularly atrocious calls (well, 2 calls and 1 non-call) that all went against Pitt.  It was almost as if the Big East wanted desperately for WVU to get into the championship game!  Then you remember the Connecticut game with the fair catch returned for a touchdown and you realize Big East officials are just complete idiots.

[cmlancas]

I'm not into conspiracy theories but if you watched the Pitt/West Virginia game, there were 3 particularly atrocious calls (well, 2 calls and 1 non-call) that all went against Pitt.  It was almost as if the Big East wanted desperately for WVU to get into the championship game!  Then you remember the Connecticut game with the fair catch returned for a touchdown and you realize Big East officials are just complete idiots.

Or.... when USF lost to UConn when a WR got tackled in the end zone. Yeah. Maybe you weren't at the game, but the field was pelted with garbage. Teams huddled on the sidelines because they couldn't leave the field.

[UD_Delt]

I'm not into conspiracy theories but if you watched the Pitt/West Virginia game, there were 3 particularly atrocious calls (well, 2 calls and 1 non-call) that all went against Pitt.  It was almost as if the Big East wanted desperately for WVU to get into the championship game!  Then you remember the Connecticut game with the fair catch returned for a touchdown and you realize Big East officials are just complete idiots.

Or.... when USF lost to UConn when a WR got tackled in the end zone. Yeah. Maybe you weren't at the game, but the field was pelted with garbage. Teams huddled on the sidelines because they couldn't leave the field.

Wait till the bowl games. It'll get worse...


Edit: Oh yeah... Go Bucks!

[Paelos]

I'm not into conspiracy theories but if you watched the Pitt/West Virginia game, there were 3 particularly atrocious calls (well, 2 calls and 1 non-call) that all went against Pitt.  It was almost as if the Big East wanted desperately for WVU to get into the championship game!  Then you remember the Connecticut game with the fair catch returned for a touchdown and you realize Big East officials are just complete idiots.

I was yelling at the TV over the two phantom holding calls on the WR. I kept looking for it and looking for it, and they were never there. The whole time the WR has his hands inside the shoulderpads and there's no jersey seperation. The refs did everything they could to put WV in the winner's circle, but the football gods would not allow such a miscarriage of justice.